QOTD: Out of Touch, or Out of Time?

Corey Lewis
by Corey Lewis
qotd out of touch or out of time

On Monday, Matthew Guy asked all of you to nominate vehicles that were ahead of their time. Those rare occasions where vehicles anticipated the desires of consumers, even before said desires were fully formed. Today, we flip it around and talk about Hall and Oates lyrics vehicles which were out of touch or behind the times, even when new.

Maybe the manufacturer decided to play in a segment too late in the game, after everyone else moved on to newer, better things. Or, perhaps engine offerings were all wrong — an unfortunately timed product introduction that coincided with a sharp change in fuel prices. Or a recession.

Taking a manufacturing angle, maybe build quality wasn’t up to par with competitors, or tech was lacking in some important way. Was there a lack of effort on the part of the manufacturer? Something else to consider: Products intended for another market that a manufacturer decided to shift to North America. I’m building to something here.

Ah yes, the EcoSport. On sale since 2013 in other markets and designed largely to suit India (it’s built there), Ford decided to send it to North America in 2018. You’ve undoubtedly seen one of these ovals out on the roads. It’s mostly a cash grab; a compliance exercise designed to give Ford an offering in the hot new subcompact CUV market. It’s not particularly good in any metric, and it’s dated, too (it’s from 2013; the platform underneath is from 2008). Prices escalate to over $27,000 for premium EcoSports. No bueno.

Let’s hear your selections for cars which were out of touch or dated when they were new. Don’t limit it to just 2019 — historical choices are just as valid. I’m sure some AMC product were dated right from the showroom floor (ahem, Concord).

They’re out of touch, I’m out of time.

[Images: GM, Ford]

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  • 28-Cars-Later 28-Cars-Later on Jan 30, 2019

    Is it wrong that I would drive a Cimmaron today?

    • Lie2me Lie2me on Jan 31, 2019

      Not today, no, because most people don't know the back story. 25-30 years ago it would have been wrong

  • WildcatMatt WildcatMatt on Jan 31, 2019

    I'll nominate the 5th generation A-Body Buick Century which soldiered on far too long with far too little updating. What was contemporary in 1986 was positively frumpy in 1996 compared to the likes of the LeSabre, Regal, and Riviera. Although come to mention the Regal, I'm pretty sure the 1995 2-door Regal shared the Century's front clip with slightly different fenders...

  • El scotto None of them. The auto industry is full of people with huge egos. It's a case of huge ego = never ever being wrong.GM: The true believers end up at Bowling Green. A fast rising GM executive that just didn't quite make it: Truck & Bus, Fort Wayne isn't really that far from Detroit!Ford: Billy Ford once again, and it seems perpetually, convincing his doubtful relatives not to sell their preferred stock. I give VW a 50/50 shot at buying out Ford; a family buying out another family.Tesla: Straight from Elon: "My Tesla has hidden compartments for handcuffs, ask my latest girlfriend where they're located"Stellantis: Get used to flying to Schiphol. You'll have luggage, lots of luggage.None of the Big 3 will ever admit they were wrong. Tesla will just keep gaining market share.
  • SCE to AUX A question nobody asks is how Tesla sells so many EVs without charge-at-home incentives.Here are some options for you:[list][*]Tesla drivers don't charge at home; they just squat at Superchargers.[/*][*]Tesla drivers are rich, so they just pay for a $2000 charger installation with the loose change in their pocket.[/*][*]Tesla drivers don't actually drive their cars much; they plug into 110V and only manage about 32 miles/day.[/*][/list]
  • SCE to AUX "Despite the EV segment having enjoyed steady growth over the past several years, sales volumes have remained flatter through 2023."Not so. How can EV sales be increasing and flatter at the same time?https://insideevs.com/news/667516/us-electric-car-sales-2023q1/Tesla and H/K/G are all up for EV sales, as are several other brands.
  • ToolGuy Here is an interesting graphic, if you're into that sort of thing.
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