Nismo Hunter: Toyota Engineer Wants a Brawnier C-HR

Steph Willems
by Steph Willems

Why should Nissan have all the stealthy sport crossover fun?

That’s the view of Toyota C-HR chief engineer Hiroyuki Koba, who is seeking approval for a hotter version of the upcoming crossover, Autocar reports.

First teased as a Scion concept, the 2017 C-HR bowed earlier this year at the Geneva Motor Show, adopting a new brand name after Toyota took its youth-oriented division behind the barn for a date with death.

European C-HRs get a turbocharged 1.2-liter four-cylinder or a 1.8-liter hybrid setup, but the North American market will likely see a 2.0-liter four. That mill (likely paired with a continuously variable transmission) sounds fine for regular trim levels, but it sure won’t cause palpitations.

Koba doesn’t want the Nissan Juke Nismo to steal the C-HR’s lunch money, so he’s on a mission to take his baby to the gym.

“I am pushing to make such a car,” he told Autocar. “I need to get approval.”

Toyota executives said they learned a lesson about building edgy vehicles from their lengthy Scion venture, so are they biting?

Toyota senior manager Rembert Serrus isn’t ruling it out, telling the publication, “The car lends itself to it.”

“It would be possible, but it depends on how much we have to change,” he added. “A sports version could be a minor change or it could be a new project. A sports version would make a lot of sense.”

The automaker is readying a racing version of the C-HR, powered by a 178-horsepower 1.5-liter turbo four, and that engine could be tapped for a performance model.

Still, the engine would be 10 horses shy of the base Juke Nismo, and wouldn’t generate a bead of sweat on the 215-horsepower Juke Nismo RS. For this reason, Koba wants a version of the C-HR that’s hotter than the racing model.

If Toyota’s Nimso fighter gets the green light, it won’t be in time to join the vanilla C-HR when it goes on sale later this year.

[Image: Toyota Motor Corporation]

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  • Toy Maker Toy Maker on May 02, 2016

    The engineer wants a street model that is more powerful that the racing model? Whoa.

  • Sector 5 Sector 5 on May 02, 2016

    I've read Nismo only accounts for about two percent of Juke production. Standard 188 vs 211/215 Nismo depending on CVT or manual. Not a huge difference but the Nismo 6-speed enjoys significant torque increase and torque steer that goes with it..

  • Dr.Nick What about Infiniti? Some of those cars might be interesting, whereas not much at Nissan interest me other than the Z which is probably big bucks.
  • Dave Holzman My '08 Civic (stick, 159k on the clock) is my favorite car that I've ever owned. If I had to choose between the current Civic and Corolla, I'd test drive 'em (with stick), and see how they felt. But I'd be approaching this choice partial to the Civic. I would not want any sort of automatic transmission, or the turbo engine.
  • Merc190 I would say Civic Si all the way if it still revved to 8300 rpm with no turbo. But nowadays I would pick the Corolla because I think they have a more clear idea on their respective models identity and mission. I also believe Toyota has a higher standard for quality.
  • Dave Holzman I think we're mixing up a few things here. I won't swear to it, but I'd be damned surprised if they were putting fire retardant in the seats of any cars from the '50s, or even the '60s. I can't quite conjure up the new car smell of the '57 Chevy my parents bought on October 17th of that year... but I could do so--vividly--until the last five years or so. I loved that scent, and when I smelled it, I could see the snow on Hollis Street in Cambridge Mass, as one or the other parent got ready to drive me to nursery school, and I could remember staring up at the sky on Christmas Eve, 1957, wondering if I might see Santa Claus flying overhead in his sleigh. No, I don't think the fire retardant on the foam in the seats of 21st (and maybe late 20th) century cars has anything to do with new car smell. (That doesn't mean new car small lacked toxicity--it probably had some.)
  • ToolGuy Is this a website or a podcast with homework? You want me to answer the QOTD before I listen to the podcast? Last time I worked on one of our vehicles (2010 RAV4 2.5L L4) was this past week -- replaced the right front passenger window regulator (only problem turned out to be two loose screws, but went ahead and installed the new part), replaced a bulb in the dash, finally ordered new upper dash finishers (non-OEM) because I cracked one of them ~2 years ago.Looked at the mileage (157K) and scratched my head and proactively ordered plugs, coils, PCV valve, air filter and a spare oil filter, plus a new oil filter housing (for the weirdo cartridge-type filter). Those might go in tomorrow. Is this interesting to you? It ain't that interesting to me. 😉The more intriguing part to me, is I have noticed some 'blowby' (but is it) when the oil filler cap is removed which I don't think was there before. But of course I'm old and forgetful. Is it worth doing a compression test? Leakdown test? Perhaps if a guy were already replacing the plugs...
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