This Is Why We Can't Have Diesels

Edward Niedermeyer
by Edward Niedermeyer

Why don’t more mass-market brands offer diesel engine options? After all, the evidence suggests that the passenger cars that offer diesel options enjoy a healthy take rate for oil-burner engines. So would a brand like Ford ever consider bringing diesels to its US offerings? According to the Blue Oval’s Product Boss Derrick Kuzak, the answer is absolutely not. And, according to Automotive News [sub] he’s got an interesting reason for nixing a US-market diesel option.

With rising petroleum prices, one European journalist asked if Ford planned to alter its powertrain strategy and sell cars with diesel engines in the United States. The journalist mentioned that some European automakers offer diesels in the United States.

Kuzak said Ford “could easily bring diesels to the U. S. market.”

Then he quickly added: U.S. “customers, I think, are pragmatic.”

Too pragmatic for improved efficiency? Huh?


Kuzak continues:

With diesel engines more expensive than gasoline powerplants, and diesel fuel more costly than gasoline in the United States, the payback time for a U.S. driver, he said, would be 10 years.

“It doesn’t make sense. We are not going to force it on customers,” he said, adding that an EcoBoost engine comes close to matching the efficiency of a diesel.

Unlike the luxury brands, Kuzak said Ford’s fuel economy strategy “is driven by affordability.”

And yet Ford offers its fair share of hybrids… and how long does it take to pay off that premium? After all, National Research Council studies show the cost of upgrading from a gas four-cylinder to an advanced diesel or power-split hybrid are almost identical… and I know which I’d rather drive. So are Kuzak and Ford scared of the marketing challenge of bringing back advanced diesels, or do they really believe that their hybrid strategy good enough to not need some diesel diversification?

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  • Dennie Edwards Jr Dennie Edwards Jr on Mar 10, 2011

    I bought a 2010 VW Golf TDI last May,before the federal tax credit expired - so that's $1300 back in my pocket. Besides that, if you go strictly by EPA numbers, the "real world" mileage results are much higher than stated. I average consistently in the low 40's, approx. 525 miles from a 15 gallon tank, and never dip below 35mpg in city driving. On the contrary, both Hybrid and Gasoline MPG numbers are usually a bit lower, sometimes disappointingly so, that what is reflected in the EPA numbers. I may be paying 30 cents more per gallon for diesel, but dollar-for-dollar, I'm still WAY ahead of most other gasoline cars. Otherwise, it's not just about the fuel economy, but the driving dynamics of the whole car - 236 ft./lbs of torque with a 6-speed manual, superb ride and handling, a high level of refinement, and the versatility of a hatchback. Try and find all those characteristics in one vehicle - they are few and far between. For me, I can't ask for much more value in a vehicle. A slight sticker price premium? Yes, but a great value nonetheless. Let's compare apples to apples here.

    • Morea Morea on Mar 10, 2011
      You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Do I feel lucky?” Well do ya, punk? The problem with turbos is that they last longer than the warranty but not longer than the rest of the car. Timing when to sell the car is critical for the overall cost of ownership equation.
  • Diesel Fuel Only Diesel Fuel Only on Mar 10, 2011

    I think that all of the criticisms of the complexity and engineering expertise/ expense needed to make a modern clean diesel explains exactly why there will never be a FORD diesel sold in the US.

  • Offbeat Oddity I would have to test them out, but the Corolla might actually have a slight edge. I'd prefer the 2.0 in both cars, but to get one in a Civic with a decent amount of equipment, I'd be stuck with the Sport where the fuel economy suffers vs. the Corolla. If the Civic EX had a 2.0, it would be a much tougher decision.
  • User get rid of the four cylinders, technology is so advanced that a four litre V8 is possible.. and plausible.. cadillac had a serious problem detuning v8s in the past, now theyre over-revving the fours and it sounds horrible.. get rid of the bosses and put the engineers in the front seat..
  • BOF Not difficult: full-size body-on-frame sedan, V8, RWD, floaty land yachts. Unabashed comfort and presence. Big FWD Eldo too. While I’m at it, fix Buick much the same way just a little less ostentatious and include a large wagon w/3rd row.
  • Jeff I noticed the last few new vehicles I have bought a 2022 Maverick and 2013 CRV had very little new vehicle smell. My 2008 Isuzu I-370 the smell lasted for years but it never really bothered me. My first car a 73 Chevelle and been a smoker's car after a couple of months I managed to get rid of the smell by cleaning the inside thoroughly, putting an air freshener in it, and rolling the windows down on a hot day parking it in the sun. The cigarette smell disappeared completely never to come back. Also you can use an ozone machine and it will get rid of most odors.
  • Lou_BC Synthetic oil for my diesel is expensive. It calls for Dexos2. I usually keep an eye out for sales and stock up. I can get 2 - 3 oil and filter changes done by my son for what the Chevy dealer charges for one oil change.
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