Toyota Wouldn't Dream of Ditching Passenger Cars, Has Fingers Crossed It Can Woo Ford Buyers

Steph Willems
by Steph Willems
toyota wouldnt dream of ditching passenger cars has fingers crossed it can woo ford

While fewer competing models in a given segment stands to benefit any automaker left in that realm, Toyota isn’t sure just how loyal Ford car owners are to the Blue Oval brand.

Behind the scenes, there’s surely much licking of chops, but Toyota Motor North America CEO Jim Lentz wasn’t forthcoming with conquest predictions when he talked with Automotive News TV this week. One thing was clear, however. Toyota will remain a full-line brand for the foreseeable future, and the automaker stands to field a more car-heavy product mix for some time to come. And it’s just fine with that.

Fine with it until it becomes a problem, anyways. For now, Toyota doesn’t see much sense in ditching its small passenger cars.

“Especially if you look at the really critical segments — midsize passenger car, compact passenger car — those are two million-plus a year segments. We have no desire to back out of segments,” said Lentz.

“In terms of who may get Ford’s share, it’s difficult to say. If you look at today’s volumes, there’s not a lot of cross-shop between Ford passenger cars and Toyota passenger cars. So it really depends on what happens to those buyers. Are those buyers going to remain loyalists to Ford, and move out of passenger cars and maybe into SUVs — and I’m sure that’s Ford’s strategy — or are they going to remain loyal to passenger car segments? If that’s the case, we’ll have a chance at them with our product.”

Lentz claims Ford brass determined its expertise lies in trucks, and sales numbers surely bears this out. For Toyota, Lentz said, “we’re always going to have a little bias, relative to industry numbers, for passenger cars … we think this is an area we have expertise in.”

Financially, Toyota benefits from fielding a facelifted Mazda as its main subcompact offering. Meanwhile, the Corolla (due for a full revamp for 2020) and recently renewed Camry boast name recognition like no other. A fully updated Corolla Hatchback, replacing the hastily rebadged Scion iM, appears for 2019.

Compared to Ford’s 12.7 percent passenger car volume loss during the first four months of 2018, Toyota-branded cars sales fell just five percent. Models like the Camry and Avalon are up on a year-to-date basis.

As for Toyota’s slow and cautious foray into electric vehicles, Lentz doesn’t see a reason to get out in front if there’s barely a market for the product. There’s 10 battery-electric models on the way, but expect a slow global roll-out. The CEO touted Toyota’s 9 percent hybrid sales rate — a figure well above the recent industry-wide tally of 2.7 percent — after noting the slow growth of U.S. EV sales.

“When the market is ready, when the business is ready, for pure EVs, we’ll be there,” said Lentz. “When the U.S. market is ready, we’ll be able to choose from a stable EVs made somewhere in the world, but in the meantime we’re going to be pushing hybrids.”

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  • Robbie Robbie on May 15, 2018

    There are four effects in play here: - Some Ford loyalists will move to brands that they perceive to be of higher quality (Honda; Toyota) - Some will move to up and coming brands that they suspect are good value (Kia, Hyundai) - Some will be Murican-only types and will buy a GM or Chrysler product - Some will stick with Ford and move to a Ford SUV. Any guesses as to the sizes of each effect? I would give it 20-20-20-40 percent.

  • Akear Akear on May 15, 2018

    I was stating 2014 Avalon sales, which were around 67,000 plus. Toyota will probably increase Avalon sales by attracting former Taurus owners.

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