By on October 17, 2016

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General Motors is surprisingly boastful when it speaks of the upcoming Chevrolet Cruze Diesel, especially its newfound role as a warm Linus blanket offered to disenfranchised Volkswagen owners.

We’ve been told there’ll be manual transmissions galore, and lets-just-pretend-it’s-a-wagon hatchback variants, too. Now, GM claims a sporty RS version is in the works, which it believes will have VW owners scrambling to trade in their peace signs for bow ties.

Will buyers be kind to the new (and legal) “Whisper Diesel” or is this just an oily pipe dream?

One month before the Environmental Protection Agency blew open the diesel emissions scandal in September of 2015, the German automaker’s TDI models accounted for nearly 58 percent of the diesel light vehicle market in the U.S. Buyers were sold on the attributes of the high-mileage, torquey, four-cylinder units.

Five years ago, a VW dealer told this writer that he’d still sell every vehicle on his lot if 50 percent of them were diesels. Sadly, he claimed, head office only allowed a 25-percent diesel mix.

Now, GM has high hopes that TDI owners facing a buyback will trade their dirty “clean” diesel for a legitimately clean 1.6-liter diesel. Dan Nicholson, GM’s vice president for global propulsion systems, says that a good number of former owners “won’t stop wishing for a diesel.”

“And we’ll go after those customers,” he told Automotive News in August.

An RS variant is the latest promise for the diverse 2018 Cruze Diesel lineup, which bows in late summer or early fall of next year. Speaking to Motor Authority, GM North America president Alan Batey claims the diesel RS will be “fun to drive,” making that point more than once.

“You take this look, and you take those performance parts, and you marry it with a diesel,” he said, adding again, “This will be fun to drive.”

That could be true — if output matches the 136 horsepower and 236 lb-ft of torque seen in the 2018 Equinox. However, GM’s plans have already found its critics.

Speaking to The Detroit News, Michelle Krebs, senior analyst at Autotrader.com, claims the diesel push has nothing to do with sales.

“I think it’s purely a fuel economy play, as we move closer to fuel economy standards,” Krebs said. “I suspect the take-rate will be very low after the whole Volkswagen situation.”

Speculation has swirled around the model’s fuel economy, with a potential 50 mile per gallon highway figure mentioned. If the Cruze Diesel’s mileage comes close to that, not only would it be a highly marketable claim, but the automaker’s corporate average fuel economy would see a welcome boost.

As GM crosses its fingers, time will tell if the American diesel renaissance recovers from its near-dead state.

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56 Comments on “Dud or Stud? Chevy’s Diesel Cruze Gambit Offers No Guarantee of Success...”


  • avatar
    brettc

    If only there were a wagon available. I was not impressed with the cargo capacity behind the rear seats when I looked at one last weekend.

    As for the take rate, it remains to be seen. It seems there are a lot of TDI drivers that really don’t like GM from what I see online.

  • avatar
    ajla

    “I think it’s purely a fuel economy play, as we move closer to fuel economy standards”

    As opposed to 90% of what’s available today? Nearly everything is a fuel economy play.

    • 0 avatar
      Scoutdude

      And if the take rate is low then it won’t really help CAFE numbers, because that whole A thing in CAFE. Say they manage 5% take rate and it gets twice the MPG of the gas versions. Since I don’t know the actual CAFE numbers since those are not the sticker numbers here are some numbers I pulled out of my @$$. .95×30 = 28.5 .05*60= 3 28.5+3= 31.5 So yeah they got a 5% boost by selling a car with twice the MPG. CAFE is all about the volume models MPG.

  • avatar
    Car Guy

    If they were smart they would use the gas 2.0L turbo in a hot hatch version. I would have given that car a look when shopping my Focus ST. Instead I passed right over GM for any consideration.

    • 0 avatar
      Featherston

      To your point, you’d think that the sunsetting of the Verano turbo would leave more room in the GM lineup for a Cruze SS. It’d be fun to have another option in the ST/GTI segment. Doesn’t sound like we’ll see one, though.

  • avatar
    NeilM

    I wonder how the GM 1.6 litre diesel will perform? VW’s 2.0 TDI is terrific, but their 1.8, one of which I was driving just last week in a SEAT, has always been pretty anaemic.

    • 0 avatar
      theonlydt

      There is no 1.8 in the current VAG line up. There is a 1.6 that’s just okay. I got over 60mpg (imperial) from the Skoda Octavia with the 1.6 when I was in the UK a couple of years ago. That was the average over the thousands of miles I had the car, it hit 72mpg on the motorway.

      It’s quite grumbly and I found the torque quite peaky. It’s not the best engine. The 1.6 diesel from Honda is much better for driveability – and from the UK reviews of the Astra with the new 1.6 it sounds like this GM unit is a gem (see what I did there? :))

      • 0 avatar
        Adam Tonge

        http://www.vw.com/models/golf/section/trims/

        The Golf comes with the 1.8T

        Or are you referring to diesel? Because we don’t have any of those anymore…

        • 0 avatar
          theonlydt

          Well, he was referring to SEAT who currently don’t have the 1.8TSi in any of their new cars. Additionally we were talking diesel, so I assumed 1.6 was being referenced. Finally, the 1.8tsi isn’t anaemic (in my opinion).

  • avatar
    stevelovescars

    Whatever their motivation (I assume it’s both a sales and fuel economy play… it only helps CAFE if they actually sell some of these, no? I don’t understand the instant poo-pooing of this) I’m glad they are finally bringing over more choices.

    I’m not sure I’m sold on the hatchback version. I haven’t seen one in person yet. If they are going after VW, I would think the European Cruze wagon would be a better fit, but what do I know. I admit to being biased here toward wagons.

    I did spend some good road trip time in a Cruze Diesel sedan a few years ago and I thought it was a very nice car. I got just over 50mpg on a long freeway trip in near 100 degree temperatures with the AC blasting the whole time. I was impressed.

    I thought the issue was that the Diesel was ONLY available in highest-level trim with leather and other options which pushed the price quite high. When the regular 1.4 Turbo Eco version was available for $8k less and still topped 40 mpg highway, the economics just made little sense at all.

    • 0 avatar
      geozinger

      WRT to the previous gen Cruze Diesel: I agree with your assumption that the high price was a huge barrier to the car becoming more popular. I understand why they priced it the way they did and now the Diesel drivetrain will be available on lower spec vehicles in this new body style.

      Like you note, why bother with the Diesel disadvantages (here in the US) when you can get comparable mileage in the gasoline version? Maybe I’m wrong about TDI shoppers not considering the Cruze Diesel, but their (GM’s)reputation precedes them. Too bad, because conceptually, I like the idea.

      • 0 avatar
        stevelovescars

        I found the Cruze Diesel to be very quiet and comfortable, it had a lot of extra sound insulation and on the freeway was actually quite luxurious and it handled curvy roads well. I also found that last gen of the Cruze to be attractive.

        But, it was nearly $28k and only came as a sedan with an automatic transmission. A lot of the VW Diesel owners I know have Golf hatchbacks or wagons and a surprising number have manual transmissions, so between the price and the limited body style they may not have cross-shopped it for reasons beyond the nameplate.

        I would imagine Diesel intenders had to be more aware of the Cruze Diesel’s existence than the general public, but it was a bit of a hidden gem.

  • avatar
    geozinger

    I honestly don’t think TDI buyers will cross-shop anything from the General. I think that Chevy’s marketing will have to work hard to convert VW owners. GM has a bit of reputation with Diesel powered vehicles, although that’s almost 40 years in the past. Regardless, anything that says “GM + Diesel” will face a lot of resistance.

    Like others have noted here, I’d like to see them drop a 2.0L turbo in the hatch also. It would be nice to have more performance choices in that segment.

    • 0 avatar
      JimZ

      I doubt too many of VW TDI owners know very much about the Olds 5.7 fiasco. Even if they do, they should be intelligent enough to realize 1) that was 30 years ago, and 2) these are engines which have been running around elsewhere in the world in one form or another for a while now.

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    This might be a nice lease play, esp if GM puts money on the hood as they are not dropping like rocks.

    MY15 Cruze TDiesel – msrp 25,6

    09/13/16 Manheim Orlando Regular $15,400 3,863 Avg BLACK 4DT A Yes
    09/02/16 Manheim Pennsylvania Lease $16,500 4,155 Above RED 4DT A Yes
    09/27/16 Manheim Denver Lease $14,500 9,969 Avg GOLD 4DT A Yes
    10/03/16 Manheim Orlando $12,400 18,720 Below SILVER 4DT A No
    06/16/16 Manheim Orlando Regular $15,500 20,676 Avg BLUE 4DT A Yes
    06/09/16 Manheim Detroit Lease $14,500 30,253 Avg BLACK 4DT A Yes

    MY15 Cruze LTZ – msrp 24,2

    0/14/16 Manheim Nevada Regular $14,400 7,128 Avg MAROON 4GT A Yes
    09/29/16 Manheim Arena Illinois $16,100 8,969 Above GRAY 4GT A Yes
    09/29/16 Manheim Denver $14,600 9,768 Avg GREEN 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Denver $15,900 10,999 Above BLACK 4GT A Yes
    09/29/16 Manheim Denver $14,800 11,376 Avg MAROON 4GT A Yes
    09/23/16 Manheim Pennsylvania Lease $13,500 12,745 Avg SILVER 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $14,000 13,216 Avg GRAY 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $14,100 14,111 Avg SILVER 4GT A Yes
    10/13/16 Manheim Statesville $15,700 14,579 Above RED 4GT A Yes
    09/23/16 Manheim Statesville $15,700 15,630 Above GREEN 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $13,100 16,592 Avg BLUE 4GT A Yes
    09/29/16 Manheim Arena Illinois $14,300 16,756 Avg WHITE 4GT A Yes
    09/23/16 Manheim Nashville $15,700 17,807 Above GREEN 4GT A Yes
    09/23/16 Manheim Statesville $15,600 18,485 Above WHITE 4GT A Yes
    09/27/16 Manheim Detroit $15,700 18,710 Above GREEN 4GT A Yes
    09/23/16 Manheim Statesville $15,700 19,059 Above GREEN 4GT A Yes
    09/27/16 Manheim Detroit $15,700 19,265 Above MAROON 4GT A Yes
    10/05/16 Manheim Detroit $15,700 19,618 Above BLACK 4GT A Yes
    10/13/16 Manheim El Paso Regular $13,600 20,304 Avg GRAY 4GT A Yes
    09/27/16 Manheim Orlando Lease $13,800 20,327 Avg GRAY 4GT A Yes
    09/27/16 Manheim Denver Lease $13,500 20,856 Avg SILVER 4GT A Yes
    09/30/16 Manheim Statesville $14,300 20,881 Avg GREY 4GT A Yes
    10/05/16 Manheim Detroit $15,500 20,889 Above RED 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $13,400 21,233 Avg BLUE 4GT A Yes
    09/23/16 Manheim Statesville $14,300 21,233 Avg BLACK 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $13,000 21,362 Avg WHITE 4GT A Yes
    09/30/16 Manheim Nashville $15,200 21,785 Above SILVER 4GT A Yes
    09/29/16 Manheim Arena Illinois $14,500 21,845 Avg SILVER 4GT A Yes
    09/23/16 Manheim Statesville $15,300 22,617 Above RED 4GT A Yes
    10/13/16 Manheim Chicago Regular $14,500 23,116 Avg RED 4GT A Yes
    09/27/16 Manheim Detroit $15,300 23,565 Above SILVER 4GT A Yes
    09/29/16 Manheim Detroit Lease $13,400 23,865 Avg SILVER 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $12,800 24,605 Below WHITE 4GT A Yes
    10/13/16 Manheim Texas Hobby Regular $14,000 25,070 Avg BLUE 4GT A Yes
    10/12/16 Manheim Milwaukee Regular $12,700 25,093 Below WHITE 4GT A Yes
    09/23/16 Manheim Statesville $15,200 25,203 Above BLACK 4GT A Yes
    09/23/16 Manheim Nashville $15,100 25,392 Avg BLUE 4GT A Yes
    09/30/16 Manheim Nashville $15,200 25,397 Above BLACK 4GT A Yes
    09/23/16 Manheim Statesville $15,100 25,546 Avg DK BLUE 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $13,700 25,582 Avg WHITE 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $12,000 25,653 Below BLACK 4GT A No
    09/23/16 Manheim Nashville $15,100 25,795 Avg WHITE 4GT A Yes
    09/29/16 Manheim Arena Illinois $14,600 25,949 Avg BLACK 4GT A Yes
    09/23/16 Manheim Statesville $15,100 25,959 Avg BROWN 4GT A Yes
    10/04/16 Manheim Georgia $13,500 26,030 Avg GREEN 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Milwaukee Regular $14,500 26,263 Avg BLACK 4GT A Yes
    09/30/16 Manheim Nashville $15,300 26,304 Above RED 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $12,900 26,412 Avg GRAY 4GT A Yes
    09/27/16 Manheim Statesville Regular $14,000 26,475 Avg RED 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $14,200 26,615 Avg WHITE 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $13,600 26,795 Avg SILVER 4GT A Yes
    09/30/16 Manheim Nashville $15,300 26,899 Above RED 4GT A Yes
    10/13/16 Manheim Texas Hobby Regular $13,500 28,961 Avg GRAY 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $14,000 29,060 Avg WHITE 4GT A Yes
    09/29/16 Manheim Texas Hobby Regular $15,000 29,867 Avg BLUE 4GT A Yes
    10/04/16 Manheim Ohio Lease $13,000 30,072 Avg RED 4GT A Yes
    09/27/16 Manheim Texas Hobby $14,300 30,390 Avg BLUE 4GT A Yes
    10/11/16 Manheim Texas Hobby $14,700 30,516 Avg WHITE 4GT A Yes
    09/30/16 Manheim Statesville $14,900 30,747 Avg WHITE 4GT A Yes
    10/06/16 Manheim Texas Hobby Lease $13,900 32,724 Avg GRAY 4GT A Yes
    10/12/16 Manheim Georgia Lease $14,300 33,508 Avg WHITE 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Kansas City Lease $12,200 33,540 Below BLACK 4GT A Yes
    10/11/16 Manheim St Louis Lease $13,800 33,647 Avg SILVER 4GT A Yes
    10/05/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $13,300 34,727 Avg GREEN 4GT A Yes
    10/11/16 Manheim Orlando Lease $12,800 34,844 Below SILVER 4GT A Yes
    09/23/16 Manheim Fort Lauderdale Lease $12,100 35,178 Below WHITE 4GT A Yes
    10/06/16 Manheim Texas Hobby Lease $13,600 35,276 Avg SILVER 4GT A Yes
    10/04/16 Manheim Orlando Lease $12,500 35,539 Below GRAY 4GT A Yes
    10/10/16 Manheim Texas Hobby Lease $13,400 35,847 Avg SILVER 4GT A Yes
    10/05/16 Manheim Kansas City Lease $12,800 35,946 Below BLUE 4GT A Yes
    10/10/16 Manheim Nashville Lease $11,800 35,975 Below GRAY 4GT A Yes
    10/05/16 Manheim Denver Lease $13,400 36,209 Avg RED 4GT A Yes
    10/11/16 Manheim Denver $13,300 36,459 Avg BLUE 4GT A Yes
    09/26/16 Manheim New Jersey Lease $11,800 36,762 Below BLACK 4GT A Yes
    09/29/16 Manheim Atlanta Regular $12,500 36,813 Below GREY 4GT A Yes
    10/11/16 Manheim Denver $13,700 37,319 Avg RED 4GT A Yes
    10/06/16 Manheim Detroit Lease $13,500 38,230 Avg BLACK 4GT A Yes
    10/11/16 Manheim Riverside Lease $13,401 38,615 Avg GREEN 4GT A Yes
    10/04/16 Manheim Statesville $13,100 38,681 Avg MAROON 4GT A Yes
    10/04/16 Manheim Statesville $12,900 38,698 Avg SILVER 4GT A Yes
    10/14/16 Manheim Pennsylvania Lease $13,400 38,721 Avg SILVER 4GT A Yes
    09/28/16 Manheim Denver Lease $13,000 38,844 Avg WHITE 4GT A Yes
    10/12/16 Manheim Denver Lease $13,400 39,554 Avg BLACK 4GT A Yes

  • avatar
    Zackman

    I couldn’t care less about a diesel-anything except locomotives, but the Cruze hatchback sure is sweet, and I believe I’d drive one!

    I checked one out a few weeks ago and was impressed. Of course, it was a premium model and I didn’t drive it, but the design was well-balanced, even if the rear cargo area was tight when the back seats are up, but that doesn’t bother me right now.

  • avatar
    TDIandThen....

    TDI Golf owner here in Quebec – one of the busiest small-car markets as it turns out – and I think GM’s idea is kind of hilarious though welcome. They’re going to compete on quality with me coming from a Euro hatch? For real? Good for us buyers…but funny.

    I went TDI for efficiency and durability, and VW sold TDI with the highest-end trim only here. Inside it’s a base Audi with VW badges, and the 2.0 feels like just enough grunt. General Motors really want me, with their reputation for quality and reliability and diesel history? They’re offering a smaller engine in a similar-weight car? They’d have to give me a Hyundai warranty to get me to even test drive it.

    Volvo is bringing a refreshed V-40 / C-40 over to N America next year, and I’ll look really hard into giving them all my TDI settlement money if there’s a diesel / R option.

    • 0 avatar
      JimZ

      “They’d have to give me a Hyundai warranty to get me to even test drive it.”

      yet you drive a VW…

      • 0 avatar
        TDIandThen....

        “yet you drive a VW…”

        Yup! Zero issues in 85k miles and very satisfied. Truedelta.com shows VW solidly in the middle of the reliability pack. Maybe your impressions are out of date?

        • 0 avatar
          JimZ

          or maybe TrueDelta is worthless? Their “data” for the Golf is picked from 2-4 cars per model year. Statistically that doesn’t tell you anything.

          • 0 avatar
            TDIandThen....

            Stop being intentionally obtuse, VW is entirely average in reliability: http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Volkswagen_Golf/Reliability/

          • 0 avatar
            ajla

            The Golf in your link was 2.5/5.

            The same publication gave the Cruze 3.5/5.

            usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Chevrolet_Cruze/Reliability/

        • 0 avatar
          Scoutdude

          “General Motors really want me, with their reputation for quality and reliability and diesel history? ” Maybe it is you who’s impressions are out of date. The Cruze diesel has nothing to do with the diesels from the 70’s and early 80’s and has been proven at least in dirty Euro tune for some time. Meanwhile VW can’t get a decent result out of their TDI and meet the dirty Euro standards so they had to cheat.

          • 0 avatar
            TDIandThen....

            Point one was that VW is not some reliability holocaust, the brand is average.

            Point two is that GM quality and reliability and history are deeply unimpressive – yes even in the years since the Oldsmobile disasters of the 80s – and you can’t point fingers at VW with that kind of history.

            Point three is that TDI owners will often / usually giggle uncontrollably at the idea of switching to a GM product for various reasons.

            Good luck with the whole staying on topic logic thing.

          • 0 avatar
            JimZ

            “Point three is that TDI owners will often / usually giggle uncontrollably at the idea of switching to a GM product for various reasons.”

            so they’re just brandwh*res.

          • 0 avatar
            87 Morgan

            @TDI…

            AS a former owner of 2 TDI, & 1 Rabbit I am perfectly happy with the two GM badged vehicles in my garage. No giggling required, was happy to switch.

          • 0 avatar
            TDIandThen....

            “Brandwh*res” here because we’re excited to switch to a Volvo, yes. /s

  • avatar
    quaquaqua

    Personally, I don’t really care about if the diesel is successful. But I think if this hatch fails, it’s going to make Chevy pull the plug on diesels and manuals AND hatchbacks, since they’re all seen as niche markets. I mean, if you design a car properly, the hatch can sell in giant numbers. Look at the Focus. But I’m so disappointed that this is the only non-sedan Cruze we’re getting. The useful space in the back is practically nil. You can have a steeply raked rear profile on a larger car (think Malibu Maxx!) because it had a long enough wheelbase to still have a useful cargo area. This just looks entirely too short. And not squaring it off in the back like a VW (which they’re trying to steal sales from, after all) is a huge mistake. I bet sales will be less than 10% of the sedan, and within 3 or 4 years, bye bye hatch, bye bye diesel, bye bye manual.

  • avatar
    Arthur Dailey

    VW buyers generally have a strong bias against the D3 or because they were ‘dieselphiles’. They purchase VW despite long term reliability concerns, and expensive or haughty dealer service. One of the last bastions of ‘brand loyalty’.

    So GM is unlikely to sway the former. And the latter may either swear off diesel entirely or await a European replacement.

    Based on GM’s diesel car engine history, I agree that leasing one of these would be the way to go.

  • avatar
    87 Morgan

    These posts are funny. VW owners concerned about switching to GM product line up due to reliability issues…what, are they worried they will spend less time dealing with the service department? They remember GM’s diesel past? Sure they do. They remember that half the bro-dozers in their neighborhood are Chevy or GMC trucks with a big Duramax badge on the side. Then they asked said owner how he liked it, one hour and 3 Budweisers later they went home and decided that perhaps GM could put a diesel in a small car.

    • 0 avatar
      TDIandThen....

      If I were in the market for a diesel truck I’d look American. For everything else, I look non-American. My first car was a Mercury, second a Pontiac, and parents have a Mercury boat still. Dad got a series of VWs starting in 1957. I have cousins who work for Ford in MI, and they all have Fords. I’m plenty familiar with US Vs VW reliability.

      My Golf has had a few issues – one oxygen sensor and one taillight, both under warranty, in four years. 85,000 miles and routinely over 45mpg. Please stop saying that reliability is a VW issue, you’re thinking back to the Jetta of 1997-2004 or so, and you’re wrong.

      • 0 avatar
        JimZ

        please stop making claims based on a sample size of 1.

        • 0 avatar
          TDIandThen....

          Funny you say that, please stop making claims based on electrical issues from ten years ago. Maybe?

          Please stop mocking one brand because you have a hate on? Please stop being a snide bitch-ass?

      • 0 avatar
        slap

        85K miles? That’s a low mileage car.

        My BIL had a Cavalier. Sold it with 240K miles, and it was still running fine. I’ve got a 2004 Mercury Sable SW. 250K miles.

        Come back when you’ve got twice (or more) that mileage.

        • 0 avatar
          TDIandThen....

          “Come back when you’ve got twice (or more) that mileage.”

          Oh I fully agree, I’m basically just done with my break – in period. I’d intended this car to make a million kilometres if not miles, and that’s why the scandal was heartbreaking.

      • 0 avatar
        87 Morgan

        …Please stop saying that reliability is a VW issue, you’re thinking back to the Jetta of 1997-2004 or so, and you’re wrong.

        Help me reconcile your statement with the the narrative that appears here referencing the Olds/Caddy 5.7 Diesel from 81′? If that turd keeps coming up, then surely VW has to be held accountable for the garbage they gave us circa 1994-2004 and even some beyond.

        My point as was/is their are a lot more GM diesel powered vehicles on the road today that have mulitple 100’s of thousands of miles on them with happy owners than people who owned or know a damn thing about the Olds Delta 88 Diesel from 1981. When presented with the prospect of buying a car for commuting or son/daughter will they will not hesitate to buy a Cruz MT diesel.

        • 0 avatar
          TDIandThen....

          “Help me reconcile your statement….”

          Oh I have no issue with anything you’re saying, though I never really see and didn’t myself reference the Oldsmobile diesel fiasco. I hope your kids do go with a manual diesel Cruze as I want to see manual diesel succeed in general and I’m sure it will be fine for most. I specifically think the idea of many VW or Audi TDI owners going GM is silly however, and that was my original point. Volvo is much more reasonable as a guess for us but Volvo has no entry – level / competitive hatch until 2018ish. Everything I’ve crossed-shopped until now has been not as good as the Golf in one way or another. MazdaSpeed3comes closest for me; YMMV.

  • avatar
    shedkept

    Over 50% diesel in Europe. Its not a status symbol. That’s for Tesla owners. A good diesel engine is a wonderful thing. An acquaintance has an E320CDI that gets 42mpg on a regular basis on the highway. Car has about 150,000 on it and going strong as ever. It is the old in-line 6 which I favor over the V6 with DEF added.

    EU and US have two different views of emission control.
    Added complications and worse fuel economy to make the “numbers” in the US are why diesels aren’t sold here in greater numbers.

    BTW; Commercial airlines are worse polluters but have, so far, been given a pass by the EPA.
    http://www.flyingclean.com/issue_briefings

  • avatar
    la834

    The Cruze diesel push would be a great idea if it were ready *now*, but they won’t be hitting showrooms until early 2017 (sedan) and later 2017 (hatchback) by which time most VW TDI owners will have accepted the buyback and will have already bought another car.

    • 0 avatar
      Scoutdude

      The way the settlement is set up they can continue to drive their dirty diesels depreciation free for several more months. So there really is no incentive to turn in the car any sooner than they need to. So yeah lots of people are out there who will wait for this, if they want another diesel it is pretty much their only option in the segment and price range.

  • avatar

    I think GM has an interesting “Green” lineup.
    Volt, Bolt and the diesel Cruze.
    They just need to figure out how to poach the ex SAAB now Prius driving crowd from Toyota. No small feat unfortunately.

    • 0 avatar
      Scoutdude

      Nobody I know who owns a Prius has ever owned a Saab.

      • 0 avatar
        LaughingBasho

        Ex Saab owner and enthusiast, now with a TDI Golf I will give up only with great reluctance. When the time comes (early 2018, buyback offer runs til summer 2018) I will give the Cruze a good look.

        I can’t Imagine many in the Saab diaspora are in Prii. We like to drive.

  • avatar
    Tandoor

    No matter what powers it, the drivers left elbow is still going to be hitting the B pillar.

  • avatar
    Johnster

    It all depends on how it is priced. If GM asks for too much of a price premium over the gasoline-powered engines, and if the price of gas stays reasonable, then the Diesel Cruze is doomed.

    OTOH, if the price of gas increases and GM keeps the diesel price premium reasonable, it might start something.

    • 0 avatar
      Rudolph

      I purchased a 1968½ M-B 220D manual and at the time the premium for diesel over gasoline was $400 (the DM was 25¢ then). Diesel fuel was 24.9¢ at Certified in Columbus Ohio •

      I drive a 2002 VW 1.9l TDI 5-speed manual with just over 111,111 miles and September central OR to central OH trip of 2400 miles was uneventful. Best tank (with Hankook winter tires) was 55.5 mpg , worst tank 42.7 mpg •

      VW was purchased new by my d-i-l and serviced regularly •
      German oil is used in crankcase •

  • avatar
    Eyeflyistheeye

    For all the Euro brand snobs, this is a goddamn Opel. There is nothing American about this aside from the ugly Chevy emblem (the little blue bowtie is iconic, the big gold one is just trashy)

  • avatar
    tjh8402

    Price will be a big deal. I’ve got my eye on this as well as a Civic turbo hatch to replace my Abarth. If I continue driving this much, I’m going to need something with better mpg and more readily available service locations, and I’d like have some more cargo space as well. The challenge for Chevy will be to make the diesel’s likely higher price worthwhile compared to the Civic, and both will have an uphill battle against a nicely depreciated Fiesta, Fit, Focus, or Mazda 3

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    05lgt

    If GM has figured out how to mimic the (non-frost heaved western and southern) highway manners of the VW’s it might work. If they design the suspension for Detroit… wrong buyers.

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