By on October 20, 2015

 

Car companies should know better than to send detailed drawings of unreleased cars to Chinese toymakers. 

Because they don’t, here is the new Volvo V90 wagon in toy-car form. The wagon, which appeared on CarNewsChina, appears to take several cues from our newly favorite Swedish car, the XC90.

The wagon sports headlights from the XC90 as well as the front fascia from Alex Dykes’ favorite new car.

 

The V90 will be based on the same architecture as the XC90, which means the full-size wagon may actually be a full-size wagon — instead of a sport wagon a la Cadillac’s CTS and Mercedes E-class.

 

The toy car sports a panoramic roof and two rows of seating, which would mean a spacious cargo cabin if three rows weren’t in the cards. The V90 wagon will share a platform with the coming S90 sedan, which will replace the V70 Cross Country and S80 respectively.

The full-size cars are part of Volvo’s future full-sized and compact-sized offensive by 2020.

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58 Comments on “Here’s The New Volvo V90 Wagon! (Model)...”


  • avatar

    I loved the XC90, but the Chinese connection makes me less than enthusiastic about it.

    • 0 avatar
      Chocolatedeath

      I dont want to come off as a Xenophobe but I have to agree to a point. Its one thing to get my cell phone or toys or you know everything from Walmart. Its another when it comes to things as as important as cars.
      Ok..everyone let me have it…

      • 0 avatar
        manny_c44

        I don’t think anyone wants a Chinese car…tata owning jaguar is a big turn off too.

        This wagon does look nice– but Audi wagons are still the nicest.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        I like the Chinese culture but f their products. Volvo to this point has been using Swedish design and manufacture for the most part. If there is a departure from this in future products than f them too.

      • 0 avatar
        TrailerTrash

        really don’t get all this bashing of the Chinese.
        Especially in this case. They are owners and financiers…but not the manufacturers.
        The cars are still designed and built by the factories we know.
        I might understand the fear of those models coming from China in the future…
        But hell…really, the true source of a lot of important parts are Chinese.

        And these cars are awesome.

        Now…that melting dash on m Mazda6 and many Lexus and Acura cars were NOT Chinese.
        That cheap/fake leather that pulled away from my center consul and the falling off rear mirror in my 48K MKS were all American…as is the irritating bumping of the trans on and off the accelerator from coasting.
        The crap material and work that is non-Chinese can go on forever.

        And remember the VW headlines lately?

      • 0 avatar
        threeer

        Nope…I agree. I do my best to restrict my Chinese-made goods purchases to the absolute minimum. Yes, I know that the computer I am typing this on, and the cell phone I use all come from China, but where I have choices, I choose American-made first, then move down the list. I’ve had too many people I know face unemployment when their company decided to move operations to China. And I used to actually rather like Volvo (even owned a 850 GLT briefly).

    • 0 avatar
      Alex L. Dykes

      I have to say that the way this Chinese connection has been working makes me feel better about it. The cash flow has all been one direction, China->Sweden. When was the last time you saw that happening? Also under Ford there was no plan to build cars in the USA, Geely sees it as the best plan to prevent currency fluctuation problems in the future so the intent is to build most of the US bound cars in the USA (small platform cars will likely stay in the EU.) And thus far Geely has been hands off in terms of development which has made all the engineers I know at Volvo happier than a Swede with a meatball. As long as the Geely tie-up continues in this way I don’t see the Chinese connection as anything but an asset for Volvo. Deep pockets are what are needed and it’s also a nice twist to see money leaving China and heading back to Sweden and the USA. If they have the guts to stick with it and leverage Audi-style amounts of cash long term then I think Volvo’s future is bright. If however they start to exert control from China, move production wholesale to China or drive severe cost cutting then there will be a problem. So far it seems the opposite, little central control, lots of cash to throw around and few limits on the engineering department’s R&D budget.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        A logical move for Geely is to use Volvo as a Trojan horse to enter USDM and Euro markets, and the S60L appears to be a trial balloon. Maybe this won’t transpire but the only other benefit from Volvo (aside from a profit return on investment) is a technology transfer for Geely’s other brands which has no impact outside of mainland China and a few other Asian markets where their products are sold. The latter is pretty much what Ford did/attempted to do and the marque ended up sold in the end.

        • 0 avatar
          Alex L. Dykes

          Supposedly the S60L is a stop gap experiment. The next S60 will be bigger for US likes but it is unlikely to be Exported from China in any volume. The new US Volvo plant will be able to build any of the SPA platform cars from S60 to XC90 but they have not said what the production mix will be. We will be able to tell more when we hear that. It is always possible that worldwide production of the XC90 may move to the USA like BMW/Mercdes do with their SUVs.

      • 0 avatar
        Chocolatedeath

        Well if it stays this way then my wife and I may consider an XC90 for her in three years once the teething of the new platform has taken shape.

    • 0 avatar
      carlisimo

      Fortunately, it looks like Geely has been throwing money at Volvo and letting them do all the work.

    • 0 avatar
      VoGo

      BTSR is afraid to buy cars from the largest carmaking nation on the planet, but instead buys Italian/FCA because of quality concerns?

      OK…

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        Because HELLCAT… is great when its not broken down.

      • 0 avatar
        RideHeight

        When I graduated from high school the largest car-making nation on the planet was giving us Pintos and Vegas.

        Actually thought the Vega was pretty awesome.

        • 0 avatar
          Big Al From 'Murica

          I pointed this connection out to an Ohio Native Alabama bashing friend of mine…While Alabama was doing that whole Saturn V rocket bit down in Huntsville Lordstowne Ohio was giving us the Vega. He said something about THE Ohio State University being national champions or something. IMHO they could win 1000 “Natty’s” and it would not make up for the stain that was the Vega.

    • 0 avatar
      Big Al From 'Murica

      “I loved the XC90, but the Chinese connection makes me less than enthusiastic about it.”

      -Posted from bigtrucks’ iPhone

      Yes, I know there is a difference in a car costing tens of thousands of dollars and a phone, but I’d probably buy this as the only thing Chinese about it seems to be the money behind the venture.

    • 0 avatar
      Spartan

      So the Chinese connection, that is building a plant in the US, providing us with jobs and boosting our local economies, makes you less enthusiastic? When was the last time Apple built s plant here to manufacture their iPhone, iPad, MacBook line? Oh that’s right, never.

      You guys really need to get over yourselves. China saved Volvo when Europe and after a U.S. company ruined them. I’m perfectly fine with the Chinese connection.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        The cost and risks associated with an automobile exceed those of consumer electronics.

        “China saved Volvo when Europe and after a U.S. company ruined them.”

        Volvo Cars generated losses for Ford in nearly every fiscal year and the decision to go FWD and tech surrounding it was developed before Ford puchased the firm. Volvo AB may have folded its car line in the last decade if it had not been sold in 1999 so as much as “Ford screwed up Volvo”, Volvo Cars screwed itself up in the 90s in the quest for cheaper production costs and chasing a trend. Imagine if Volvo AB had developed a RWD based AWD system in the 80s or early 90s to compete with Audi and kept its old platforms going a bit longer. Could have been a whole other story.

    • 0 avatar
      heavy handle

      What’s funny about all this xenophobia is that the people spouting it don’t realize that GM and Ford are just as “Chinese” as Volvo.

      Only their pickup lines are aimed at the US market. Everything else is made for China first, and the US second. Why do you think that China gets the new Cruze before the US does? Where does the Focus sell the most? Who is the new Continental for?

      • 0 avatar
        RideHeight

        Heh.. we’re becoming a plucky little export nation.

        There will be patronizingly fond mention of us in Chinese school books.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        GM is very much a Chinese focused firm, Ford I don’t think as much but their Euro spec car platforms are not hurting them in Asia (but I am the first to admit I do not “understand” Ford as well as I do Gov’t Motors).

        • 0 avatar
          DeadWeight

          After its next prepackaged bankruptcy, General Motors will re-IPO as Guangzhou Motors.

          I predict a full 50% to 60% of GM components, from entire motors on down, will be sourced from either Mexico or China, regardless of point of vehicle assembly.

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    An honest to god full size wagon? Will it have a third row? (fingers crossed)

    Edit: oops I reread it. Third row jump seats would be nice. :-)

  • avatar
    Alex L. Dykes

    Gotta say that although I love me some used Jags and am still hunting for a 2009ish Super V8 Portfolio, I can see myself doing OSD in a 2018? S80.

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      Good luck X351 imports have been much fewer than X350/X308.

      What is OSD?

      • 0 avatar
        Alex L. Dykes

        OverSeas Delivery. I did it on my 2006 V70R.

      • 0 avatar
        Alex L. Dykes

        28, The 2009 XJ would be the last X350 model year. We didn’t get X351 until 2010MY.

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          Why the last MY?

          • 0 avatar
            Alex L. Dykes

            That’s just when they cut off the X350 XJ. The X351 XJs are too spendy for me at the moment. I’m cheap.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Big range on the XJ8 in MY09, 16,3-30K and 25K on a Super with 70K. I can scan in paper copies from 2005 showing XJ8 doing 10K with 60K miles.

            MY11 X351 does 29,5-32,1 with 33-58K miles which doesn’t surprise me since this is the current platform but the X350 shouldn’t be so fricking pricy.

        • 0 avatar
          redliner

          Alex, have you had any air suspension issues with your XJ? I used to have an x350 XJR years ago and it was generally pleasant except for it’s insatiable desire for brake and suspension maintenance. When I sold it (around 60,000 miles) I believe the air-to-water inter-cooler was developing a leak, and the air suspension compressor was beginning to complain and throw codes on cold winter mornings. If I had kept it I would have had it properly diagnosed.

          • 0 avatar
            Alex L. Dykes

            Not “yet”. 85,000 miles and the airbags are still fine. You should generally get about 100,000 miles or about 10 years on them so mine are pretty close to leak territory.

      • 0 avatar
        Kyree S. Williams

        The X351 would be the current (2011-present) one. Alex is looking for the previous one (X350/X358, which is the 2004-2009 (there was no 2010, IIRC).

  • avatar
    Ryoku75

    Looks neat, the back end could be more square though (wagons do not need sloping roofs).

  • avatar
    VoGo

    That’s one sexy beast.

  • avatar
    redav

    If I could get a high quality die cast toy of each car I’ve owned, I would.

  • avatar
    Sigivald

    Looks a lot like a non-XC XC70.

    I approve of that; they’re a very nice size.

    (I can’t tell if it’s actually as “big” as the 90 number should otherwise suggest, from the model. The cues I see suggest it’s much like the old V70 in size.)

  • avatar

    Looks incredibly nice. The powertrain, interior styling and parts will be mostly the same as the new XC90 SUV as well. Can’t wait to see the Cross Country version.

  • avatar
    Big Al From 'Murica

    Is this US Bound? The real car, not the toy.

    • 0 avatar
      Chicago Dude

      Volvo has said that all future cars will be sold in all markets, and have also said that prestige in China is directly derived from the prestige a car has in the United States. Basically, they need to sell it in America if it is going to sell well in China.

      We’ll see. But given that they have started to sell the oddball variants of the S60 and V60 in America, I would say that the odds are pretty good that this is US-bound.

  • avatar
    TonyJZX

    Volvo and Jaguar are intertwined as they were both GFC Ford castoffs.

    I like JLR products. Yeah I’m dumb and susceptible to fashion. Volvo not so much.

    But I think the Chinese and Indians are more like private equity owners at this point.

    If I had Volvo or Jaguar their ulimate ownership would not really cross my mind day to day. Neither would FCA products.

    Also, a wagon? In 2015? Why? unless some markets want luxo wagons?

  • avatar
    zamoti

    I wanted a V70 for my wife in the worst way, she totally was into it. Since they stopped making it a while back, we both decided to give an xc70 a try figuring that it was just a little taller and if we got a black one the silly body cladding wouldn’t look so bad.
    We went to a dealer and found a reasonably used pair of them both under 60K miles. While I liked how the drove the interior was made of the softest grade plastic that I’d ever experienced. I’d owned a 98 and figured that by now they’d sorted out the gooey window switched and mushy plastics, but nope. In both examples, the interior was all shagged out, all plastics if not dented, bruised or broken were horribly scuffed and in some cases pilling. The asking price was the final kicker for us as the dealer would not budge (I think they wanted 26k for a 09 last winter). This particular dealer did not bother to prep either car, both were dirty and one was wearing a no-name set of crap tires (hey, maybe Chinese!) so we walked.
    I hope that Volvo has sorted out the interior grades, from the pictures of the XC90, it certainly looks it. I would love a wagon again, even more so if it’s not a faux-Outback. Time will tell…

  • avatar
    kmars2009

    V90…Way cool! Will there be a CC variant? If not, who cares…this thing is SWEET! I can finally get rid of my XC70.

    BTW…people need to stop with the made in China stuff. They seem to love Apple products.

  • avatar
    Tifighter

    Current XC70 owner here. I’m a little leery of the sloping hatch, as previously mentioned. Utility is a big part of the XC appeal to me. Still, if they do a plug in version with at least 25 miles of electric range, they’ll get me. Again.

    • 0 avatar
      kmars2009

      I’m inclined to agree. As the owner of 2 large dogs, the square back of my XC70 is appealing. I find the new V60 worthless in the rear. Lets hope the new V90 answers our needs and desires. Otherwise we’ll be schlepping around lookiing for a clean XC70….If only I can resist the beauty of the V90.

      PS. To keep your current XC70 longer, get the transmission fluid changed every 30K miles. The trans will last much longer…maybe the life of the car. Also, there is no such thing as lifetime fluid….if you’ve ever heard that one.

  • avatar
    Lorenzo

    That’s a nice looking model. It reminds me of my 1976 AMC Hornet Wagon.

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