By on November 11, 2014

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3.6L twin-turbo V6. 450 horsepower. 6-speed manual. What more do you need to know?

With only 3600 lbs to move, the ATS-V is slightly heavier than the BMW M4, but packs more horses and more torque (445 lb-ft versus 406 for the Bimmer). A 6-speed manual is available, and presumably, the 8-speed automatic will be an option as well. Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires and a locking diff are also standard. It also has titanium connecting rods, just like an Acura NSX.

 

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140 Comments on “Cadillac ATS-V Revealed...”


  • avatar
    Lie2me

    Cool, now jack it up and give it 4WD and we’ll take Cadillac seriously

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      Was there no CTS4 V-Coupe?

    • 0 avatar
      DeadWeight

      Look at that sucky gauge cluster!

      FFS Cadillac, you incompetent morons!

      • 0 avatar
        Lie2me

        Ha, ha, ha, ha… you’re going to have nightmares over that stupid gauge cluster

      • 0 avatar
        CoreyDL

        Hey! That gauge cluster was fine in old Pontiacs, and the ATS being initially designed as a Pontiac vehicle is decidedly correct in having them! It makes no difference that this will cost $54,000.

        • 0 avatar
          Lie2me

          I just read that the ATS was suppose to be a Pontiac. Oops, no more Pontiac, so, call it a Cadillac and save the last two letters. Our work here is done

          • 0 avatar
            Chocolatedeath

            Despite the fact that Lutz said it during an interview I seriously doubt it would be the case. You mean to tell me that they are going to take this platform and make it a mass market car? One that replaced a front wheel drive midsize sedan that was suppose to tackle the CamCordAmas of the world..Please. Yes the did replace the Bonneville with the G8 however that was cheap and easy with a change of grill and stickers. The ATS has less room overall it appears than a CIVIC…There is no way in Hell this was going to be a volume selling midsize segment fighter..
            During the interview Lutz just sounded pissed towards his Uncle and comes across as a bitter man who time there had passed.
            If I could hear it from another exec at GM at the time or better yet see their future plans that were written then and only then would I believe.The ATS is a rough around the edges but a Pontiac…child please.

      • 0 avatar

        I have to agree with you. That cluster is the standard one in most of Cadillac’s vehicles, and it is atrocious. As something you’d be forced to look at most of the time, Cadillac should have tried a lot harder with the design. The much-nicer full-LCD cluster that is optional on the XTS and CTS (and standard on the Escalade), hasn’t up to now been offered on any ATS, but I was hoping it’d be standard on the ATS-V. Also, they should have included the stitched-leather-and-suede airbag cover that is used on the ELR.

        • 0 avatar
          th009

          Admittedly a less expensive car, but I find the one in the Fusion to be rather garish, too.

        • 0 avatar
          DeadWeight

          Kyree, and those pics above FLATTER the ATS gauge cluster b/c they don’t show it during the daytime.

          Here it is in all its splendid circa-1992 plastic GM cheesiness: https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2013-Cadillac-ATS-3.6-AWD-010.jpg

          That is grievance 1 of my 44 grievances with the POS overpriced ATS on my Airing of Grievances under the Festivus Pole this year.

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            Yes, DW, we know you drove an ATS and hated it. Duly noted…for the 12,317th time.

            You really need to move on. Or, maybe drive a different ATS without the base, rental-car setup and see if it did any better.

            (Nope, not in the cards…getting way too much mileage off this…)

          • 0 avatar
            DeadWeight

            Mike, check this out for comparative purposes:

            2015 VW Golf TSI Gauges (not even GTI, either) – a 20k vehicle:

            http://www.cnet.com/pictures/2015-volkswagen-golf-tsi-tdi-pictures/21/

            2015 Hyundai Sonata Gauges – a 20kish vehicle:

            http://www.auto-classics.com/the-design-and-appearance-of-hyundai-sonata-sport/2015-hyundai-sonata-sport-gauge-cluster

            2006 Pontiac G6 Gauges – a 16k vehicle?:

            http://dealerrevs.com/gallery/46939005.html

            2015 Cadillac ATS Gauges – a 36k to ??? (55k) vehicle?:

            https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2013-Cadillac-ATS-3.6-AWD-010.jpg

            Even the 2006 Pontiac G6 Gauges are better.

      • 0 avatar
        probert

        Gauge clusters mean a lot to you.

      • 0 avatar
        JimC2

        The gauge cluster looks like it is constantly back-lit. That means many drivers will drive around, after dark, with only their running lights or with no headlights at all, blissfully unaware…

      • 0 avatar
        S2k Chris

        All of you, man cards, leave them at the door. 450hp twin-turbo American sports sedan, and you’re wetting your manties about the gauges. You shall all be doomed to an automatic IS250 for life.

      • 0 avatar
        Brumus

        If Cadillac were to make a statement in support of motherhood, it is conceivable most TTAC posters would come out strongly in support of matricide.

      • 0 avatar
        oldworntruck

        They are incompetent they have been spelling it as “gage” now for as long as I can remember seriously what do we expect?

        • 0 avatar
          JimC2

          “They are incompetent they have been spelling it as “gage” now…”

          Psst!. You might want to look that up in a dictionary before you criticize their spelling. It’s an accepted, alternate spelling of “gauge” (Merriam-Webster, Oxford, and yes, even Wikipedia).

          • 0 avatar
            geozinger

            @jimc2: Aw come on, don’t ruin a good rant! One must remember that GM is eternally stupid and clueless. Errr, I mean Daewoo is eternally stupid and clueless…

            Like I’ve said before about this site, if you can’t say anything good about GM, post repeatedly.

      • 0 avatar
        Zackman

        “Look at that sucky gauge cluster!”

        C’mon now, it’s not like you’re gonna buy one!

        • 0 avatar
          DeadWeight

          I would buy a Chevy Cruze before any trim level ATS, and twice on Sunday.

          People accuse me of anti Ford or anti GM or whatever/whoever bias when I pitch a bitch about a certain model, yet I often compliment other models from the same manufacturer, which similar on most of these same people.

          In its segment, I would buy a Cruze before a Civic, Corolla, Jetta, Sentra, Dart, Mazda 3, Plantar, etc.

          And I would do so without hesitation.

          I would also buy a Chevy/GMC pickup (with the 5.3P before any competitor, including Toyota.

          Yet I now hate GM because I point out how the ATS should’ve been a Pontiac for 25% less. It’s just a failed product as a Cadillac and the market agrees.

  • avatar

    Isn’t it time to overhaul Cadillac’s design language? We’ve seen this angular styling some time now. Other luxury car makers have moved on.

    • 0 avatar
      CJinSD

      Putting a Bangle Butt on a car in 2014 does seem a bit retrograde. Putting a decklid spoiler on said back end is silly looking. I also despair at the hood scoop. The proportions would be nice if it had a hatchback.

    • 0 avatar

      Are you kidding me? Their current design language is about the only thing working for them right now. It’s the only thing getting people into their showrooms because it is truly different from the rest of the crowd.

      Just because Mercedes and Acura decided to move away from angular styling (because it really didn’t help them in any way) doesn’t mean its “over” and should be left in the dust.

    • 0 avatar
      energetik9

      I agree. The design lasted one generation too long. The older versions aren’t aging well either. I think Cadillac just doesn’t know what else to do.

      • 0 avatar

        Cadillac CTS was the first… introduced at NAIAS a couple of months after 9/11. Companies moved on, disappeared… The smart phone came into our lives, social media, Tesla, Google… Wars were fought, dictators went, the U.S. became the #1 oil producing country… Do I hear crickets at Cadillac’s design dept?

      • 0 avatar
        TMA1

        I was thinking of including the 2nd generation CTS in my car search. I think it still looks good, and it’s not common where I live. The first generation was not fully baked, and the third is overcooked. The 2008-2013 cars are juuuuust right.

    • 0 avatar
      05lgt

      So many angles forced onto such a small surface area; it manages to look heavy and fragile all at once. It’s not a good look.

  • avatar
    kvndoom

    must… win… lottery… MUST… WIN… LOTTERY…

  • avatar
    jimbob457

    Did you even bother to rewrite the original GM press release in any way? If so, how long did that take?

    • 0 avatar
      stuki

      Why bother, unless you have additional information? Compared to 5 minutes ago, I now know that the ATS-V is similar in power and weight as an M4, yet can be had with a manual. Or a, in my opinion preferable for a road car, proper slushbox. And that it still has a design so angry, it seems it wants to run over poor people on purpose, instead of impressing them like the Germans strive for.

      Insightful commentary by the editors is one reason to follow TTAC. But simply getting relevant news in front of the B&B is valuable as well.

    • 0 avatar
      jimbob457

      You don’t even want to know what people are saying about yo mama.

  • avatar
    doctorv8
  • avatar
    dal20402

    Prepare for 2 comments about the performance and 90 about the gauge cluster.

    • 0 avatar
      Xeranar

      BUT THEY NEED TO COMPLAIN LOUDLY ABOUT SOMETHING!

      But in all seriousness, it looks fine. The design language looks good still and having staggering performance won’t hurt. Nice to see them putting out a well designed vehicle.

      • 0 avatar

        I was just agreeing with someone, haha. The good news is that this is literally *all* I can complain about, from a design standpoint. The rest of it looks absolutely fantastic, and if the normal ATS is any indication, this car may give you everything that the M3 and M4 do not.

    • 0 avatar
      energetik9

      Because right now it’s just a press release teaser. There is nothing else to comment on except stale design and interior photos.

    • 0 avatar
      Pch101

      The gauges really are terrible.

      What’s baffling is that they chose to do it that way. I doubt that it saved any money or provided any benefit to do it like that.

  • avatar
    VoGo

    coupe only?

  • avatar
    raresleeper

    Y’know, I like this ATS-V.

    In fact, I saw one of the earlier CTS-V’s in traffic the other day. Four door, silver over black. It was being shifted cause I saw the ass end picking up and down.

    That’s probably the only Caddy I would have. In fact, I may have to add a CTS-V to my want to own list.

    Next car maybe?

    Caddy’s not my style. Too ostentatious and gaudy (chrome grill, chrome wheels, etc.) for my tastes but Gawddam gimme a CTS-V.

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    SO OVERWORKED. Yuck.

    And are the inconsistent panel gaps not bothering anyone else?

  • avatar
    DevilsRotary86

    This is the perfect follow up article for the earlier “The Sports Car is Dead” article. I am glad to see that there are still car manufacturers who remember that there are some of us who want 2 doors and won’t touch an SUV with a 10-foot pole.

  • avatar
    mjz

    Isn’t that the CT4-V?

  • avatar
    Hummer

    If be excited at 32-34k, but with Cadillacs pricing strategy it will probably be twice that.

    Still disappointing they’re going with turbos when the 6.2l will probably do better in fuel for the same power and weight.

    • 0 avatar
      dal20402

      Why would it be $15k cheaper than a ATS V6?

      • 0 avatar
        CoreyDL

        OMG! They’re worse than Volvo pricing!

      • 0 avatar
        Hummer

        Because it’s a realistic price, not a bid at being a BMW wanna-be.

        Yes we know BMW can build a TTV6 for 60k and actually sell it, that doesn’t mean cadillac can’t do better. They’re following trends, not leading packs.

        It’s like being the tiger, or being the vulture.
        What’s more majestic at the end of the day?

        • 0 avatar
          dal20402

          32-34k isn’t even Camaro SS money, though, and this is a way nicer car than a Camaro SS in addition to likely having better performance. $60k would be too much, but $50k+ seems entirely realistic for what you get.

          • 0 avatar
            Drewlssix

            That’s barely hot hatch or loaded out compact sedan territory! And way less than a base 2.0 4 series. Has this guy not been car shopping this decade? It’s one thing to claim caddys can’t run with bimmers, it’s another entirely to price them with Hyundais.

          • 0 avatar
            DeadWeight

            I often wonder how many people praising the ATS spent 5 days or so with one.

            Epic fail.

            As Bob Lutz himself stated, it was designed as a Pontiac, originally was set to be sold as a Pontiac (G6), and was supposed to be priced like a Pontiac.

            This is fact.

            It fails completely as a Cadillac, especially at its price point (ridiculous).

            GM may need to be bailed out again when the pickup sales slow down.

    • 0 avatar
      hubcap

      “If be excited at 32-34k…”
      “Because it’s a realistic price…”

      Here’s a short list of cars with MSRPs close to 32k.

      Hyundai Azera- $31,000
      Toyota Avalon- $32,415
      Accord EX-L with Nav- $30,195
      Acura TSX- $30,635
      GTI Autobahn- $31,515
      BMW 320i- $32,950
      MB CLA- $29,900
      Audi A3- 29,900

      Do you think before speaking or do your bowels evacuate, travel up your throat, out of your mouth, and spray the surround area without at least one brain synapse firing?

      Ignorance is fine. It’s fixable. Stupid is forever. Based on some of the things you say I question which side of the divide you’re on.

      • 0 avatar
        Hummer

        How is this any better than those cars?
        I’d take the Avalon over this and I hate boring.
        At least I’m not cramped up in something this tiny with an engine that is supposedly a performance engine which obviously is a poor substitute for the better in every way 6.2 on the shelf.

        Seriously, I know the prices of cars today, and this isn’t a 40k+ car, in any way, even if they put a supercharged 6.2 in it, 40k would still be overpriced for the lack of room it has.

        • 0 avatar
          Drewlssix

          Lack of room! Seriously! Room? I assume you consider the likes of the Exige or any other “small” car to be comparable to a Leaf price wise? No doubt a larger heavier ATS would be derided for being bloated.

  • avatar
    sportyaccordy

    I have one question…. GM Y U NO V8? Without that, this thing is once again a store brand BMW for a name brand BMW price, which has proven to be a failed strategy for the ATS/CTS. Caddy’s cars, and in particular this halo model, NEED a big dose of AMERICAN character. This move has pretty much doomed the ATS from top to bottom. Hopefully GM will get its head out of its butt for the CTS-V.

  • avatar
    psarhjinian

    One, can you get this with four doors?

    Two, can you rid it of the tacky-as-hell hood?

  • avatar
    Halftruth

    Gaudy bloat-mobile.. Might look better with four doors.

  • avatar
    KindaFondaHonda

    I have to laugh.

    Over at GMInsideNews all the GM apologists are falling all over each other praising this car… and especially the “amazing front end and grille”. They also can’t get enough of the red instrument numbers.

    That front grille is one blacked-out center piece away from the Lexus spindle grille they mock and crucify over there on a daily basis. And they criticize every other manufacturer over “cheap red gauges” on a regular basis. Yet now that Cadillac has cribbed a bunch of styling cues from everyone else… all is right with the world.

    How long will it be until owners start blacking out the center part to make it a full Lexus copy? Not long. Or maybe Cadillac will do it at a model “refresh”. Funny.

    Otherwise it’s just another feeble attempt to placate the car rags and goose the armchair journos by intimating that: “Cadillac is back, baby!!”.

    It ain’t.

    • 0 avatar
      Drewlssix

      It has a traditional grille design with distinct upper and lower openings. Most cars could sport an imitation Lexus grille, that dose not make them wannabes. It makes them in most cases better looking. Imp Lexus would be well served by doing the opposite of what you said. Steppe rating the inlets with some body colored facia would make all the difference. What you must realize is that styling may be similar but the details matter.

      • 0 avatar
        DeadWeight

        There are many fanboys loyal to particular makes/models of vehicles, but I can think of few who are as irrationally & blindly rah-rah as those on GM Insidenews Forums – if this were the 80s, they’d have a dedicated thread in praise of the Cadillac Cimarron, talking about “kills” of BMWs.

        • 0 avatar
          Drewlssix

          And that justifies responses in kind? I think not. Claiming this grill is somehow derivative of the Lexus abomination as silly. The same can be said about practically any traditional sedan grille design from the past few decades. Anything with an upper grille and lower bumper inlet can be made to resemble the spindle grille roughly simply by painting the bumper between them black.

          • 0 avatar
            DeadWeight

            Drew:

            1) Aside from the hood on this ATS-V (which really is too much boy-racer), the ATS’s exterior design is the least of its problems (I realize this is subjective, but I actually think that the ATS is now comparatively more conservative and less wacky and/or bulbous than competitors from Lexus, Infiniti, BMW, etc.). I’m not a fan of the narrow, tall headlamps, but that’s relatively minor.

            2) The chassis is excellent. Really.

            3) The steering feel, weight and feedback is as good as any car in its segment, if not class leading, and I’ll go even further, admitting that it’s better than that in my beloved 8.

            4) It’s relatively light – and it’s light because of great effort and extra expense – than competitors.

            Numbers 2, 3 & 4 above are why it especially pains me that GM half baked the rest of the ATS.

            This could have been a fantastic vehicle, but GM cut too many corners elsewhere, and priced it far too high given their poor reputation for reliability, dealer support, poor space utilization, dodgy gauges and iffy CUE system, and a generally lame choice of powertrain (with a really dimwitted automatic transmission).

            This is what’s so painful. I wanted this car to succeed given the lengths GM engineers went to design an excellent chassis, fantastic steering setup and in adding lightness in an era of bloat.

            Maybe this platform will from the basis for an excellent next gen Camaro, competitively priced, with a different expectation set of it (rear seat room, small trunk, etc.) than that associated with a Cadillac.

            One can hope so, anyways.

  • avatar
    KindaFondaHonda

    I have to laugh hard.

    Over at GMInsideNews all the GM apologists are falling all over each other praising this car… and especially the “amazing front end and grille”. They also can’t get enough of the red instrument numbers.

    That front grille is one blacked-out center piece away from the Lexus spindle grille they mock and crucify over there on a daily basis. And they criticize every other manufacturer over “cheap red gauges” on a regular basis. Yet now that Cadillac has cribbed a bunch of styling cues from everyone else… all is right with the world.

    How long will it be until owners start blacking out the center part to make it a full Lexus copy? Not long. Or maybe Cadillac will do it at a model “refresh”. Funny.

    Otherwise it’s just another feeble attempt to placate the car rags and goose the armchair journos by intimating that: “Cadillac is back, baby!!”.

    It ain’t.

  • avatar
    S1L1SC

    $55k for this vs. $64k for an M3/M4… there is a hard choice for those that have that kind of money…

    Cadillac still does not understand that they don’t have the pricing power yet, do they?

  • avatar
    PRNDLOL

    Hmmm, where have I seen this car before…o now I remember:

    http://content6.flixster.com/question/65/65/99/6565992_std.jpg

  • avatar
    Master Baiter

    “What more do you need to know?”

    It’s a Cadillac. That’s all I need to know to know that I don’t want it. (Six time BMW owner here.)

  • avatar
    raph

    So I guess the question here is what of the ATS-V can GM bring over to the next Gen Camaro and keep in tact while simultaneously keeping the ATS-V relavent while meeting a Camaro SS price point? The power is roughly the same as the LT1 so it looks like the ATS has the bones and curb weight to handle the entry V8

    • 0 avatar
      dal20402

      The ATS will have more luxury, better refinement, and NVH.

      The Camaro will probably have an interior that’s nearly as crappy as the current one, and will be loud and a bit uncouth.

      The consumer will get to decide whether extra refinement and the fatter turbo torque curve is worth the extra money.

      • 0 avatar
        sportyaccordy

        Still needs V8.

        $10K discount is good compared to the M3. Should have been applied across the range TBH. But even with that discount, no dice. M3/M4 is nicer in and out, and has German brand cred. An LT1 under this thing’s hood would have helped make it a dark horse alternative, rather than a store-brand “me too”, replete with that god awful 1988 Pontiac 6000 STE gauge cluster.

      • 0 avatar
        DeadWeight

        The ATS is the least luxurious “luxury” car, even by the marketing driven “premium sports sedan” category, that I’ve driven by a huge margin.

        It would’ve made a decent (if unreliable) Pontiac G6 with a 23k base price, though.

        • 0 avatar
          Chocolatedeath

          DW…I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. I am not in anyway a Caddy fan however if you truly believe that Pontiac was going to replace the G6 with a too small rear wheel drive car for 23k..then I want what you are having…
          I realize what Lutz said however please see my post above as to why I feel like I do.
          well..see at the next Ford posting.

    • 0 avatar
      hubcap

      “The Camaro will probably have an interior that’s nearly as crappy as the current one, and will be loud and a bit uncouth.”

      I disagree with the first part of that statement. GM’s gotten beaucoup grief over the present interior. That combined with the interior of the s550 Mustang should cajole them to do it right. I hope.

      As for loud and uncouth… that’s fine with me especially if the ZL1 returns. Smiles for miles!

  • avatar
    nickoo

    I sure hope that’s not a top mounted charge air box on there.

  • avatar

    Love it….
    Kid in College, won’t be buying/leasing one….but.

    Love it….

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    Cadillac is continuing the overwrought Pontiac look.

  • avatar
    Big Al from Oz

    I do think the angle of the photo is the best view of the ATS. The comments regarding a V8 are rather lame. Why would you want to? It’s obviously the wrong tool for the job, or it would have one fitted.

    It’s known I’m not Cadillac’s biggest fan. Even in recent history they have yet to produce a vehicle with the perceived prestige as a Euro barge.

    I do think Caddy is in the same boat as Chrysler. They have built sh!t for so long that it will take time to develop a decent brand name globally. That is what Caddy needs to do.

    I do think a requirement for Caddy to create a good brand name is to have decent chassis’s, that’s across the board.

    Whilst they continue to sell Silverado station wagons Caddy will be perceived as an “Americanised” luxury vehicle. That is substandard to what is on offer.

    I really do think this ATS is a nice vehicle. But who will purchase it outside of the US? Not many.

  • avatar
    Big Al from Oz

    I do think the angle of the photo is the best view of the ATS. The comments regarding a V8 are rather lame. Why would you want to? It’s obviously the wrong tool for the job, or it would have one fitted.

    It’s known I’m not Cadillac’s biggest fan. Even in recent history they have yet to produce a vehicle with the perceived prestige as a Euro barge.

    I do think Caddy is in the same boat as Chrysler. They have built sh!t for so long that it will take time to develop a decent brand name globally. That is what Caddy needs to do.

    I do think a requirement for Caddy to create a good brand name is to have decent chassis’s, that’s across the board.

    Whilst they continue to sell Silverado station wagons Caddy will be perceived as an “Americanised” luxury vehicle. That is substandard to what is on offer.

    I really do think this ATS is a nice vehicle. But who will purchase it outs!de of the US? Not many.

  • avatar
    suspekt

    An M4 is seriously underrated at 406hp. Probably has closer to 475. It’s traps in the 115-118mph range.

    Would take the BMW over this anyday.

    Now, if they could stick an LT4 and 8 speed auto in the Chevy SS that would be a winner. Even just an LT1.

    The ATS is ugly. The ATS/CTS only look good head on or front 3/4 view. Everywhere else the design falls apart.

    The previous gen CTS was a complete and fully reconciled design. It will age very well.

    • 0 avatar
      sportyaccordy

      This is probably underrated as well, and in if it isn’t, when it comes to boost the aftermarket is the equalizer.

      In other words, rated HP doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be a deciding factor between these cars.

      What I do know is the M3/4 will be a nicer place to be the 90% of the time I’m not coming within a fire ladder’s reach of these cars’ limits. That’s enough for me

  • avatar
    SWA737

    All it needs is a set of fart cans and a picnic table wing on the trunk, and Vin Diesel could drive it to the retirement home in Fat and Furious 17.

  • avatar
    RHD

    It’s a jelly bean crossed with a cubic zirconia.
    Trophy wives will be wrapping them around mall parking lot trees before you know it.

  • avatar
    petezeiss

    No round headlights, no deal.

    Jut imagine how well they’d set off all those Star Trek trapezoids in the rest of the front end.

  • avatar
    SP

    Any hoodline tall enough to make 19″ wheels look tiny is remarkable, in my opinion.

  • avatar
    akatsuki

    How could this be let out the door? Cadillac should decide whether it is luxury or not, because this thing is garish and tasteless looking.

    • 0 avatar
      Drewlssix

      Not as subtle as a Rolls is what you are saying?

      • 0 avatar
        akatsuki

        Rolls has earned their stripes – Cadillac has yet to convince just about anyone at this point. Plus Rolls are gaudy.

        • 0 avatar
          Drewlssix

          Rolls has not earned their stripes, they made hand crafted junk for decades right along side caddys more attainable junk then were bought out by continental interests that provide decidedly un rolls like components that allow them to continue to produce hand made junk that actually might work as a car for a time. The only decent thing in a real rolls was the chevy trans.

  • avatar

    The general consensus is that Cadillac is making the best American cars. At least Cadillac is not rebadging execrable Daewoo’s.

    • 0 avatar
      DeadWeight

      Whose “consensus?”

      Speaking of Daewoo, I sincerely would have preferred a Chevy Cruze vs the unmitigated POS ATS I was stuck with for 5 days, with it’s shaking on every start like something more fell off, the ride quality of a last gen Kia Optima (actually, that’s unfair to the Optima), its litany of broken buttons and switches (including cruise control and a sometimes responsive HVAC “haptic” sensor), playskool grade gauges, and absolutely useless backseat and trunk.

      But hey, the ATS lived a hard life with 6500 miles on the odometer.

      Cadillac ATS, CTS, XTS, and ancient SRX.

      Crack pipe prices on crappy cars.

  • avatar
    tedward

    I don’t see why anyone is criticizing this car (in the comments.) What an awesome mechanical package these guys have put together. I’ve really enjoyed driving every ATS I’ve had a chance at so far and I am really really looking forward to having a go at this engine.

  • avatar
    TW5

    Handsome styling. Solid powertrain. Sub-par interior. Much ado about nothing. Cadillacs have been this way for quite some time.

    Not sure about the coupe layout, either. Less function, yet not more stylish, either.

  • avatar
    mechaman

    I’ll cut a mother to get one of these. Gauges? Seriously? Bangle couldn’t draw this if he was visited by Jack Kirby’s ghost.

    • 0 avatar
      MK

      I gotta go with deadweight on this one, for me it’s the rear three-quarter treatment. That looks like absolute ass…like a big ole fat suburbanite’s ass, devoid of shape, uninteresting and slightly nauseating to stare at.

      And they want HOW MUCH for this pig? No thanks.

      My neighbor has one of these (prob about a 60 yr old guy) and every time i see it I can’t help but stare
      At that flabby,’sloppy rear quarter. Poor bastard.

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    Ryoku75

    The stretched rear quarters remind me a bit of 2006-ish Accord coupes, weird how simple those bits are while the front end as busy as anything else these days.

    The ATS-V is beginning to end up like the early 80’s Eldorado, uninspired kinda plain styling, though the Eldorado looks more desirable…well, a NEW one.

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    TMA1

    I’ll be waiting for the Camaro version, with a significant discount.

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    rpn453

    Locking diff? As in, those Eaton automatic locking diffs they use on trucks? Strange choice for a sporty car, but certainly preferable to a simulated limited-slip.

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    RHD

    The blurb doesn’t say if it’s front wheel drive or rear wheel drive.
    If it’s RWD, it might be a hoot to drive, sort of like a cushy, overpriced Camaro.
    Something about this screams “Holden”, but I’m not sure what. It’s more like a 21st century Firebird with an origami hood and grille, with the rest of it copied and pasted from a 2012 Honda Civic.

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