By on April 24, 2012

Ferrari’s next flagship will have *gasp* a hybrid system mated to its usual V12/7-speed dual clutch gearbox.

The system, known as HY-KERS, will have two electric motors in place. A front mounted motor controls the ancillary systems like power steering, air-conditioning and other power-sapping devices. A rear-mounted motor helps add some juice to the already potent gasoline powered V12.

Regenerative braking will help power the lithium-ion battery pack mounted low in the car, behind the center line. A dual clutch gearbox will help put the power to the ground, and the electric motor should provide instant torque and sub-3 second sprints to 60 mph. The combined 800 horsepower from the 7.0L V12 as well as the electric motor should add up to over 900 horsepower – and an absurd price tag.

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21 Comments on “Ferrari Details New Hybrid V12 For Future Flagship...”


  • avatar
    N8iveVA

    Italian exotic car reliability and hybrid technology. Yeah that ought to go over well

  • avatar
    beach cruiser

    I thought that this was a completely ridiculous story, until I remembered that Kim Kardashian is mulling over a run at political office. That ought to go over just as well. What a world.

  • avatar
    cmoibenlepro

    900 horsepower? Only?
    Why not 1,000?

  • avatar
    gslippy

    Stupid. Just because you can build a hybrid doesn’t mean that you should.

    Ferrari should have consulted with Honda:
    a) Not everyone can succeed with hybrids,
    b) Acura’s ILX hurts its brand as much as hybrids will hurt Ferrari.

    • 0 avatar
      stuntmonkey

      I love how the Honda hate carries over into unrelated threads.

      • 0 avatar
        28-cars-later

        Its a nice change of pace, for a while I thought TTAC was going to be renamed GMhate.com

      • 0 avatar
        gslippy

        Ferrari is answering a question nobody asked, and is at best a questionable fit to their target market.

        Misfit (Acura ILX) or poorly-done products (Honda hybrids) are lessons Ferrari should observe and learn from.

    • 0 avatar
      Dynasty

      I think this is great. Why should Ferrari not develop a hybrid system?

      We need to get past this notion that the future is set in concrete based on the past. However, I would agree that Ferrari should not be building SUVs.

      But if Ferrari can advance hybrid tech, everyone benefits. Regardless if they are doing it for environmental reasons or not. At any rate, the addition of an electric motor will help off the line performance.

      I would be scared of the maintenance costs of this machine though. Even if I were in the correct tax bracket to even consider one.

      • 0 avatar
        Toucan

        > I think this is great. Why should Ferrari not develop
        > a hybrid system?

        Because
        1) Ferraris are barely driven
        2) they are supposed to be light

        > I would be scared of the maintenance costs of this machine
        > though. Even if I were in the correct tax bracket to even
        > consider one.

        Really? Do you think the hybrid bit will make any difference in case of cars so expensive to buy/service/insure in the first place?

    • 0 avatar
      jimbobjoe

      My recollection is that they *have* to build a hybrid.

      Well, they don’t have to per se, but they have to figure out how to meet European C02 emission standards for their vehicle fleet.

      So all European automakers are racing to reduce C02 emissions fleet wide. Hence Ferrari hybrids and the Aston Martin Cygnus.

  • avatar
    ExPatBrit

    Ferrari has been using KERS in Formula 1 since 2009 so they might actually know what they are doing.

    Why they are adding this to a V12 though instead of a V8 or V6, it seems slightly pointless.

    • 0 avatar
      redliner

      Ferrari has been using KERS in Formula 1 since 2009 so they might actually know what they are doing.

      You beat me to it. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a few fires in early production models. Supercars in general seem to catch on fire every time you do a three point turn.

      • 0 avatar
        tjh8402

        Is Ferrari’s KERS a flywheel or battery based system? I will say that unlike other teams (ahem, Red Bull), Ferrari’s KERS system has worked pretty reliably for the team. I don’t recall them having many issues with it during the races so far. As I recall, they were partnering with Peugeots now ill-fated 908 LMP1 Hybrid and it was supposed to use a similar setup.

        I’m just glad to see Ferrari standing by the V12 and keeping it NA.

      • 0 avatar
        stuntmonkey

        Ferrari is using electric. Knowing F-1, they probably replace the battery packs every race, which really defeats the environmental benefits…

        Wave of the future. You get benefits moving ancillaries to electric, but the big one, a/c, needs the power supply of a hybrid’s electrical system.

  • avatar
    bball40dtw

    tjh, only Williams uses a flywheel system.

  • avatar
    LeMansteve

    So in a few years, we will have hybrid supercars of various levels from Acura, BMW, Porsche and Ferrari. Possibly from Jaguar and Toyota, too.

  • avatar
    stuki

    Cool. Then those fleeced, can use the low end torque of the electric motor to avoid ever having to rev to the point in the powerband where the $100,000 V12 is designed to perform and sound it’s best. All courtesy of a dula clutch wonderbox that knows when you really ought to be shifting as you glide from parking vallet to parking vallet in your rolling sculpture.

    We really need to get rid of speed limits, so that supercar builders get some genuinely practical goals to focus on again. Back when Enzo was (supposedly reluctantly) building street cars, at least his overpriced concoctions were meaningfully faster from Paris to Monte than some hopped up Nissan (or Datsun).

  • avatar
    CJinSD

    Oh good. Now Ferrari will have high voltage batteries. Why burn when you can fry?

  • avatar
    redseca2

    At some level Ferrari understands that they can never build a V-Anything with the instant torque of an electric motor.

    I have been expecting something like a super Fisker from them, but mating the electrics to a V-12 doesn’t make any sense at all.

  • avatar
    PJ McCombs

    Meh. Might as well, if they’re going to stick pushbutton transmissions in everything they sell. The instant torque seems a good match to the tech-enhanced, driver-detached on-road experience that supercars are trending towards.


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