GM Mild Hybrids To Return For 2011

Edward Niedermeyer
by Edward Niedermeyer

Prior to going on television on Monday, I spoke to a GM spokesman in hopes of better understanding the business case for the Volt. Perhaps the most interesting thing he told me was that a major impetus for developing the Volt as an Extended-Range Electric concept was GM’s failure to achieve success with three alt-energy concepts (EV-1, Hydrogen, and yes, E-85 ethanol) due to their need for fueling infrastructure. As we talked, it occurred to me that three other less-than-entirely-successful GM “green car” projects might have helped lead The General down the primrose path to the Volt: GM’s BAS “Mild Hybrid,” the Parallel Hybrid Truck system (PHT), and the V8-based “Two-Mode” hybrid drivetrains. He admitted (somewhat grudgingly) that GM’s hybrid sales had been “disappointing” and that the ambitious Volt project was to some extent motivated by this lack of market success. What he didn’t tell me: GM is bringing back the discontinued mild-hybrid BAS system for 2011.

GM executive director of hybrid and electric powertrain engineering Larry Nitz tells Automotive News [sub] that the BAS or “Belt-Alternator-Starter” hybrid system will become available again starting in the 3rd Quarter of 2011, on one Chinese-market sedan and one US-market mid-size car. The system had previously been available on the Saturn Aura and Vue “Green Line” and the Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid. And though Nitz refused to confirm which models would receive the system, his announcement confirms an earlier report that had the Buick Regal receiving the BAS system in late 2011, and rumors of a BAS revival date back to the Wagoner era.

Nitz also told AN [sub] that the first-generation of BAS drivetrain is currently available in China on the Buick LaCrosse, but made it clear that the US-market revival of BAS would be an improved version of the original system.

Nitz said the electric motor is improved and the electronics and controllers are fully integrated with the conventional gasoline engine. The system will be wedded to GM’s Ecotech engine and a six-speed transmission capable of maximizing performance and fuel savings, he said.

When the mild hybrid was introduced in the Saturn Vue in 2006, it was bolted onto a four-cylinder engine and four-speed transmission not designed for regenerative braking. That mild hybrid produced a 15 percent improvement in fuel economy.

Said Nitz: “It was a forced execution before.”

The new system should offer 20 percent better fuel economy than the Ecotec on which it’s based, and will be one of the early applications of GM’s in-house electric motors. It will still not be able to run on full-electric power, however, which leaves one of the most common criticisms of the system unaddressed. Nitz didn’t give price premium details, but the BAS system previously added $1,600-$1,700 to the price of an equipped car. If the premium remains the same, an improvement in efficiency might help its chances… but the revival of BAS also highlights GM’s hybrid struggles. With the Volt and Mild Hybrids likely to bookend the Prius, GM may just be missing the sweet spot of the green-car market.

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  • Kurt Darden Kurt Darden on Aug 04, 2010

    I have a Malibu Hybrid as a compmany car for the last 43K miles. I watch mpg closely and consistently get 34mpg HWY and avg 31.5mpg overall. The start/stop technology works well going from light to light in traffic. Worst downside, the AC stops working unless you over-ride it manually.

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    • Kurt Darden Kurt Darden on Aug 04, 2010

      My sales area is the entire southeastern US, so a typical week will have three or four jaunts on the interstate of 400 miles or so, which might be skewing my results. Usually, I run around 72 or so. Using cruise control loses a couple mpg because the car can't seem to pick a gear even on the slightest incline. I wouldn't have bought the car myself, but it doesn't make a bad company car, and they pay for my gas anyway. Frankly, I'd have expected better mpg from a the Hybrid (if you want to call it that) and I am not sure how much better it does than the standard 4cyl Malibu. Not much, I expect.

  • Carlson Fan Carlson Fan on Aug 04, 2010

    I agree that GM should have never called them "Hybrids". They should be adapting the two-mode system they had in the Tahoe/Yukon to their cars. That's a better much better, more effcient design than that goofy synergy drive Toyota uses. I suspect the Tahoe/Yukon Hybrids would have been a lot more succesful if they hadn't come out just in time for the economy to fall flat on its face.

  • Alan Well, it will take 30 years to fix Nissan up after the Renault Alliance reduced Nissan to a paltry mess.I think Nissan will eventually improve.
  • Alan This will be overpriced for what it offers.I think the "Western" auto manufacturers rip off the consumer with the Thai and Chinese made vehicles.A Chinese made Model 3 in Australia is over $70k AUD(for 1995 $45k USD) which is far more expensive than a similar Chinesium EV of equal or better quality and loaded with goodies.Chinese pickups are $20k to $30k cheaper than Thai built pickups from Ford and the Japanese brands. Who's ripping who off?
  • Alan Years ago Jack Baruth held a "competition" for a piece from the B&B on the oddest pickup story (or something like that). I think 5 people were awarded the prizes.I never received mine, something about being in Australia. If TTAC is global how do you offer prizes to those overseas or are we omitted on the sly from competing?In the end I lost significant respect for Baruth.
  • Alan My view is there are good vehicles from most manufacturers that are worth looking at second hand.I can tell you I don't recommend anything from the Chrysler/Jeep/Fiat/etc gene pool. Toyotas are overly expensive second hand for what they offer, but they seem to be reliable enough.I have a friend who swears by secondhand Subarus and so far he seems to not have had too many issue.As Lou stated many utes, pickups and real SUVs (4x4) seem quite good.
  • 28-Cars-Later So is there some kind of undiagnosed disease where every rando thinks their POS is actually valuable?83K miles Ok.new valve cover gasket.Eh, it happens with age. spark plugsOkay, we probably had to be kewl and put in aftermarket iridium plugs, because EVO.new catalytic converterUh, yeah that's bad at 80Kish. Auto tranny failing. From the ad: the SST fails in one of the following ways:Clutch slip has turned into; multiple codes being thrown, shifting a gear or 2 in manual mode (2-3 or 2-4), and limp mode.Codes include: P2733 P2809 P183D P1871Ok that's really bad. So between this and the cat it suggests to me someone jacked up the car real good hooning it, because EVO, and since its not a Toyota it doesn't respond well to hard abuse over time.$20,000, what? Pesos? Zimbabwe Dollars?Try $2,000 USD pal. You're fracked dude, park it in da hood and leave the keys in it.BONUS: Comment in the ad: GLWS but I highly doubt you get any action on this car what so ever at that price with the SST on its way out. That trans can be $10k + to repair.
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