Subaru, Lexus Retain KBB's Top Resale Crown for 2016

Kelly Blue Book is mostly fiction. 1. Chrysler LX does not have favorable resale, I don't even have to look it up in MMR. 2. Evoque has surprisingly good resale, GLA and Macan will drop after the warranty periods expire. RDX and NX will remain steady with age (even if NXs started to blow up). 3. I've got one MY14 LR4 for 45,5 @ 10K for base and several more at HSE between 44,5 and 51,0 with miles between 490 and 28K. MSRP started 51K in MY14. This isn't bad, if we look at MY12 I see a range of 32,0 to 39,5 with miles between 22K and 51K. Considering 5yo LR models used to be able to be had for 5-7K

@28-Cars-Later Certain LX cars do. Charger and Challenger notably. Scat packs, SRTs and Hellcats pull up the average considerably. It's interesting that the Challenger wasn't listed under high performance cars as it has consistently beat the Mustang and Camaro in resale with a residual in the mid 60% range after 36 mos. Even for lower trims 60% isn't out of the question

@danio3834 SRT does about 5K better than R/T. Lost close to a 1/3rd for the cleanest to half for the roughest, SRT a slight bit better. This isn't a particularly favorable resale but not bad either. We also have to remember both are essentially niche models. The run of the mill Charger's best is 15,5 on a 25K starting msrp model, avg of the sample set being 11,5. Even at say 3K off from FCA, you've lost half your purchase at avg 60Kish miles in just the start of four MYs. MSRP of SRT8 started at 44K+dest. MSRP of R/T started at 30K+dest MY12 Dodge Challenger RWD V8 R/T 11/19/15 ALBANY Regular $23,500 6,698 Above Black 8CY A Yes 11/18/15 CEN FLA Regular $22,500 9,876 Above BLACK 8G A Yes 12/10/15 TX HOBBY Regular $22,000 23,168 Avg SILVER 8G 6 Yes 12/01/15 STATESVL Regular $21,500 29,610 Avg BLACK 8G 6 Yes 12/11/15 PA Regular $20,700 30,841 Avg GREY 8G 6 Yes 11/17/15 OHIO Regular $20,400 34,256 Avg RED 8G A Yes 11/19/15 DFW Lease $18,800 38,214 Avg BLUE 8G 6 Yes 12/03/15 SO CAL Regular $21,300 38,223 Avg BLUE 8G 6 Yes 11/17/15 STATESVL Regular $22,000 48,734 Avg BLACK 8G M Yes 11/25/15 NASHVILL Lease $15,500 54,739 Below BRT WHTE 8G A No 11/18/15 DALLAS Regular $18,500 60,932 Avg RED 8G A Yes 11/19/15 ATLANTA Lease $17,400 66,775 Avg BLUE 8G A Yes 12/03/15 FRDKBURG Regular $17,900 75,303 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes 11/19/15 PHOENIX Lease $14,600 75,756 Below RED 8G A Yes 11/18/15 DALLAS Lease $14,200 96,858 Below BLACK 8G A Yes MY12 Dodge Challenger RWD V8 SRT8 11/30/15 DIGITAL Regular $27,500 12,289 Avg YELLOW 8G A Yes 12/02/15 NJ Regular $30,000 14,688 Above BLACK 8G A Yes 12/11/15 PA Regular $31,750 17,857 Above BLACK 8G P Yes 12/01/15 PHILLY Regular $28,500 23,675 Avg GRAY 8G 6 Yes 11/25/15 CALIFORN Regular $28,750 24,319 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes 11/19/15 PHOENIX Regular $26,200 29,772 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes 12/02/15 CALIFORN Regular $27,000 32,543 Avg BLACK 8G 6 Yes 11/18/15 SAN ANTO Regular $26,300 41,469 Avg GREY 8G A Yes 12/14/15 NEVADA Regular $28,500 41,478 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes 11/25/15 CALIFORN Regular $27,750 53,165 Avg WHITE 8G A Yes 12/10/15 MISS Regular $26,700 57,380 Avg YELLOW 8G 6 Yes 11/25/15 TAMPA Regular $25,400 65,035 Avg GRAY 8G A Yes 11/19/15 ATLANTA Lease $25,500 68,934 Avg BLACK 8G 6 Yes 12/03/15 FRDKBURG Regular $18,000 81,983 Below BLACK 8G 6 No 12/01/15 ST LOUIS Regular $24,000 88,079 Below BLACK 8G A Yes MY12 Dodge Charger SE RWD V6 2/02/15 MILWAUKE Lease $14,000 12,704 Above GRAY 6G A Yes 12/01/15 RIVRSIDE Lease $14,000 32,469 Above BLACK 6G A Yes 12/04/15 NEVADA Regular $15,500 36,436 Above RED 6G A Yes 11/25/15 CALIFORN Regular $14,400 38,783 Above WHITE 6G A Yes 12/02/15 CEN FLA Lease $14,500 44,567 Above WHITE 6G A Yes 12/03/15 TX HOBBY Lease $13,600 46,890 Above WHTE 6G A Yes 11/19/15 TX HOBBY Regular $13,800 49,692 Above DK BLUE 6G A Yes 11/18/15 FT MYERS Regular $13,200 50,155 Above Gray 6CY A Yes 12/02/15 SAN ANTO Regular $11,800 50,404 Avg GRAY 6G A Yes 12/10/15 ALBANY Regular $12,200 53,887 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes 12/10/15 SO CAL Regular $13,750 54,268 Above GRAY 6G A Yes 12/03/15 ATLANTA Lease $11,800 57,092 Avg SILVER 6G A Yes 11/19/15 FRDKBURG Lease $12,100 58,213 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes 11/25/15 MINNEAP Lease $12,700 59,960 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes 11/19/15 DETROIT Lease $12,300 60,935 Avg SILVER 6G A Yes 12/09/15 NASHVILL Lease $12,500 60,952 Avg BRT WHTE 6G A Yes 11/17/15 BALTWASH Lease $12,800 60,972 Avg GRAY 6G A Yes 12/07/15 MILWAUKE Lease $10,500 61,680 Avg SILVER 6G A Yes 12/10/15 ATLANTA Lease $14,100 61,686 Above BLACK 6G A Yes 11/18/15 SAN ANTO Lease $11,200 62,244 Avg BLUE 6G A Yes 11/17/15 ST LOUIS Regular $11,200 62,857 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes 11/17/15 STATESVL Regular $13,000 64,238 Avg CHARCOAL 6G A Yes 12/07/15 NC Lease $13,100 64,333 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes 12/09/15 DALLAS Regular $11,600 64,712 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes 11/25/15 FT MYERS Regular $11,600 64,994 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes 11/24/15 DALLAS Lease $12,000 65,032 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes 12/01/15 RIVRSIDE Regular $10,000 65,160 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes 11/24/15 HOUSTON Regular $13,400 65,232 Above SILVER 6G A Yes 12/02/15 DALLAS Lease $11,900 65,623 Avg SLIVER 6G A Yes 11/19/15 LOUISVLL Lease $9,800 65,961 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes 12/02/15 NASHVILL Regular $13,000 68,584 Avg BLUE 6G A Yes 12/07/15 NC Lease $11,100 69,290 Avg RED 6G A Yes 12/09/15 DALLAS Lease $12,600 70,067 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes 12/08/15 STATESVL Regular $11,700 74,383 Avg GREY 6G A Yes 12/02/15 SAN ANTO Regular $12,200 74,674 Avg RED 6G A Yes 11/25/15 SAN ANTO Lease $10,200 74,990 Avg GRAY 6G A Yes 11/25/15 MILWAUKE Lease $10,800 79,461 Avg SILVER 6G A Yes 11/17/15 ORLANDO Lease $11,100 80,633 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes 11/19/15 DETROIT Lease $9,500 81,262 Below BLACK 6G A Yes 11/25/15 SAN ANTO Lease $10,200 84,109 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes 12/02/15 NEWORLNS Lease $10,600 84,952 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes 12/09/15 MILWAUKE Lease $10,700 85,887 Avg GREY 6G A Yes 12/11/15 FT LAUD Regular $10,300 86,080 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes 11/25/15 NEW MEX Lease $11,600 86,245 Avg SILVER 6G A Yes 12/10/15 PHOENIX Lease $10,700 88,600 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes 11/16/15 NC Lease $10,500 89,280 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes 12/10/15 TX HOBBY Lease $10,300 90,713 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes 12/08/15 OHIO Lease $9,400 92,176 Below BLACK 6G A Yes 12/10/15 TX HOBBY Lease $8,400 96,513 Below BLACK 6G A Yes 11/19/15 CHICAGO Lease $8,600 98,528 Below SILVER 6G P Yes 12/02/15 TUCSON Regular $9,600 104,891 Below BLACK 6G A Yes 11/17/15 NASHVILL Lease $9,500 109,099 Below BLACK 6G A Yes 12/03/15 TX HOBBY Regular $12,200 109,127 Avg BLACK 6G A No 12/08/15 HOUSTON Lease $12,200 109,455 Avg WHITE 6G A No 12/09/15 DALLAS Lease $9,300 110,684 Below SILVER 6G A Yes 11/25/15 CEN FLA Lease $8,600 112,515 Below BLACK 6G A Yes 11/16/15 FRDKBURG Regular $9,800 127,095 Avg WHITE 6G Yes 11/25/15 NORTHSTR Lease $8,100 132,932 Below TUNGSTEN 6G A Yes 12/09/15 CALIFORN Regular $12,000 138,231 Avg WHITE 6G A No

@28-Cars-Later 50% residual at 4 years is actually pretty good and above average.

@28-Cars-Later I take it you've never tried to buy a Camcord about four years old? How about a Subaru anything at this point at 4 years old? Lex RX? Strong resale and demand converge to create an expensive used car experience. The Charger will continue to sink until the 30-40% range at the earliest and now you're out of warranty on a Chrysler product that's only worth 7K at best? What happens when it goes boom? At ten years depending on condition you're looking at 3K-4K ride which will now need all standard maintenance not including premature component or system failures as they may happen. This is how people go car poor. Maybe some believe 25% residual is good after ten years? I'd rather buy a late model clean/avg Lex at 40% of its original cost (even if it was an MY05) and get quick money back out of it after five years. I can sell a nice Lex to a diverse crowd. Challenger I'd have to plot. Its a different car with a different motor and different demographic closer to Corvette than gang-banger or "that thing got a Hemi?" style hicks. Maybe those will fare better? I would certainly think its a car you could sell if you had to in order to get quick money. Even a dealer might give you half decent money instead of hitting you over the head on some avg to rough Charger V6 they don't want as they are a dime a dozen. Things might be very different in Canada, I really don't know.

@28-Cars-Later I hate to be a dick, but what is it that you do? IT or something? Your impressions from afar do not reality make. This is my business and KBB's business as well.

The GS competes against the 5-Series, actually. But the 5-Series depreciates quickly, too. You can generally expect to pay $4K more for a similarly-equipped GS on the used market than a 5-Series. I think two reasons that the GS has higher resale values are: a) It doesn't feel as disposable as the 5-Series, and is likelier to have a higher usable life, and, b) There aren't as many GS units on the pre-owned market. By contrast, you can find a 5-Series quite easily since BMW whores that model out out on lease promotions and such, so no one is willing to pay too much for any particular unit.

Edmunds took a big hit on thier long term GS F-sport in the same state that Edmund's is located.

@NormSV650 Oh, good, anecdote-Norm is back. What Buick are you driving to 60mpg while street racing (and crushing) V6 Camrys?

@Quentin Sometimes I think you don't realize how unpleasant you come across round here. It's very often.

@Corey Lewis You say unpleasant, I say asking that people to show their work.

@Corey Lewis There's a difference in "May I see your calculations?" and "That's bullsh!t, prove it."

@NormSV650 Norm! (think "Cheers") How did you manage to escape Area 51?

@Corey Lewis Corey, be nice. Norm's anecdotes are quite entertaining whether he provides data or not and Quentin is simply referencing them.

@Corey Lewis And there is a way to say that someone has missed your point without the condescending "that's OK" like above. Mostly everything I say that is snarky is generally good natured. You can't see my grin and wink through the computer screen, though. I honestly haven't seen Norm around here in a while.

@Corey Lewis Oh make no mistake, I was referencing very generally not this instance in particular.

@Corey Lewis And, fair enough I suppose.

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