By on August 28, 2015

Scout

Last week, we began our occasional look back at the interesting cars I’ve been posting daily in our Classic and Collector Car forum. Maybe these cars aren’t quite worthy of the full Crapwagon treatment, so we call this the Forum ReCrap.

(To the 2 percent of our readers that are female, please recall that nearly all males — especially those who happen to love cars — are perpetually twelve years old, and thus still find toilet humor titillating.)

This week, the forum featured: an SUV from a tractor company; a modern shooting brake; a legendary FWD sports car that will likely be stolen; a Japanese-built, Italian-styled derivative of a Chevette; and a hatchback that was born from jets.

Monday, I looked at an attractive International Harvester Scout. The pea soup green paint looks marvelous, especially with the gunmetal steelies. It looks like the seller ended the auction early, perhaps after a sale outside eBay. Someone probably picked up a fun ride.

Pulsar

Tuesday, I featured another car with a removable rear body panel. This one, however, is a bit less compelling to the general public. The Nissan Pulsar Sportbak is one of those answers to a question that, if asked, probably shouldn’t have been. Nonetheless, it’s kinda cool, and could be a fun, quick ride with something a bit more beefy under the bonnet. It’s still only $2,000 and for sale very close to Myrtle Beach. Fly in, hit a seafood buffet or a golf course, and drive home in glorious Eighties style.

Integra

Wednesday, I found a unicorn: an Integra Type-R that might not yet have been stolen. The seller needs to learn how to get photos off the phone, however, rather than screenshotting everything. I love reading ads for hot Hondas — invariably, the words “Adult Owned” will appear on anything that doesn’t have dozens of decals littering the clearcoat. As of this writing, the bid is around $10,000 with five days left, so my guesstimate of a $15k sell price might not be far off.

Impulse

Thursday brought a favorite sleeper of the Eighties. Isuzu’s Impulse, penned by Giugiaro, is a stunning sportscar built on pedestrian GM underpinnings. Sadly not a turbo, the performance might be a bit blunted, but this looks like a cheap, fun classic.

Viggen

Today, I happened across a Saab 9-3 Viggen. The last hurrah of the hot hatch from Trollhättan, the Viggen was a torque-steering monster of a family sedan. I wonder how good the parts support is now that Saab has left this realm. That would be a significant factor in whether I’d consider one for myself.

I know I’m not the only one out here in internetland that trolls the web for interesting cars. Head over to the forum, and post the cool stuff you find!

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45 Comments on “TTAC Forum Crapwagon ReCrap: Scouting for Interesting Cars...”


  • avatar
    -Nate

    The IHC Scout is technically a TRUCK , non ? .

    I always liked those Datsun change backs , never had one though .

    -Nate

  • avatar
    Matt Foley

    Chris, I have to ask: why do you call this feature “Crapwagon Outtake” when nearly all of the cars you feature are interesting and desirable in some way, and are therefore not actually crappy?

    Just curious – not being snarky.

    • 0 avatar

      Interesting + desirable and crappiness are not mutually exclusive.

      • 0 avatar
        Chris Tonn

        Indeed. See my most recent Tweet, wherein I lust over a LeCar on the other side of the continent.

        Crappy? Certainly.
        Desireable? Potentially.
        Interesting? To my twisted mind, yeah.

        • 0 avatar
          dolorean

          “Indeed. See my most recent Tweet, wherein I lust over a LeCar on the other side of the continent.”

          I would only lust over the ’83 LeCar that the A-Team stole from Amy to turn into a Infantry Fighting Vehicle. All others would be bought and summarily crushed IOT rid the world of their patchouli stink.

      • 0 avatar
        Luke42

        My stepmom had a Nissan Pulsar NX with T-tops around the time I got my driver’s license.

        Interesting, desirable, and crappy pretty much sums up the whole car.

        P.S. It had the most gutless engine I’ve ever driven, and the close ratio gearbox couldn’t make up for it. I don’t throw around the word gutless lightly, because I think any 3300lb vehicre with more than 120HP is overpowered.

    • 0 avatar
      Acd

      Because “Down the Street” and “Curbside Classic” we’re already taken?

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

      I agree, I dont like the name, either. Seems like it should be reserved for a rusty 80s Camaro sitting on a K5 frame with a wheezing 305 and bald mud grip tires, a Corolla from the rust belt that literally broke in two or a homemade “coupe utility” based on a Dodge Aries. In otherwords, real crap.

      How about calling them IORs (Interesting Old Rides)?

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    “I know I’m not the only one out here in internetland that trolls the web for interesting cars.”

    Ha, yeah I was posting them here long before you took my idea.

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    IH Scout/Travelall/pickup/etc. – can get past any obstacle except a gas station.

    My step-grandfather worked on the line in Fort Wayne that built passenger vehicles. I wish I had gotten to know him better to get to talk about that.

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      I bet he had good stories!

    • 0 avatar
      redmondjp

      My best friend in high school had two Gen I 4-cylinder Scouts (the half-a-V8 ones, one with the 152 and one with the 196), manual transmissions of course.

      Going from memory, fuel economy was in the mid-to-upper teens on the highway, which isn’t bad all things considered (like aerodynamics of a brick).

      • 0 avatar
        JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

        My friend’s mom had an 80s Scout Diesel. It smelled like pot inside and it was slow, but it would go just about anywhere. When we got his lifted K20 stuck on a trail, we walked two miles to his house to get the Scout. Old thing pulled it right out, no problem.

        His mom let me drive it around town before I even had a learner’s permit. I always thought that was so cool. That thing was a beast.

        • 0 avatar
          krhodes1

          My slightly crazy Great Uncle has whatever the very last year of the Scout is that he spent a fortune restoring. He had owned a succession of them, then bought this one new when the end was announced. When it inevitably rotted out in Maine, he bought a Ford pickup and tucked the Scout away. When he retired, he re-did the Scout. Never drives it in the salt now, of course. But still takes it hunting in the woods ever year. He must be pushing 80 now, one of my Grandfathers baby brothers.

          Cool hunting rigs run in the family, his older brother bought a Chevy C10 pickup ordered brand new in ’69. Used it to take the trash to the dump weekly, and to hunting camp annually. Had all of about 15K on it when he passed a few years ago, and is utterly mint. V8, short wheelbase/short bed 4×4 with the 350, automatic and A/C. Vinyl seats and rubber mats though. In Pea Green, complete with a ’69 vintage aluminum bed cap!

  • avatar
    Trend-Shifter

    Here is one for tomorrow…
    1989 Jaguar El Camino with 17,xxx miles.

    http://www.dailyturismo.com/2015/08/el-caguar-1989-jaguar-xj6-pickup.html

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    And since I’m here, behold the CLEANEST Lebaron GTS 5-door hatch in the world. By 1988 they were all dirtier than this one, and somehow it exists. It’s the color of a manila envelope which has been left in the sun, but looks like it has comfy chairs.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrysler-LeBaron-GTS/221858128448

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      $3700? Really?

      • 0 avatar
        CoreyDL

        How much should it cost? How do ya price something which is in better original condition than any other item of the same sort?

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          They should pay *you* to take this 80s crapwagon with 80K.

          Seriously though, these aren’t really collectible and are not in demand. In 2000, a friend’s boyfriend picked up an 88 Aries/39K (K-car) off a dealer for $800. Off a dealer. $800. Even if we double that figure for inflation its $1600. Now the car is fifteen years older no less and has double those miles? Seriously Ebay? If this thing was a clean Turbo New Yorker or some kind of Shelby edition its a mayyybe at almost 4K. This is literally the kind of car my friends I had for high school wages fifteen years ago. Who the frack wants it now and for four dimes no less.

          So this might be worth four grand:

          http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Daytona-Turbo-Z/221858128361?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D444000%26algo%3DSOI.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33097%26meid%3Dc12114d5980e4b03b5ac686804413339%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D221858128448

    • 0 avatar
      NoGoYo

      I’d rather have a GTC.

    • 0 avatar
      RideHeight

      OMG sweet! Because greenhouse and pristinity. I just made that word.

    • 0 avatar
      MRF 95 T-Bird

      I never knew the Lebaron GTS came with a column shift on the base model. I always thought that was reserved for the more pedestrian K-cars since the GTS in particular the turbo version was the “Euro” sedan that competed with the Pontiac 6000 STE and Celebrity Eurosport. Funny how I see more K-cars still on the road and have not seen one of these in a few years.

  • avatar
    Fred

    There is a Lotus tuned version of the Impulse
    http://bringatrailer.com/2013/11/08/34k-mile-1984-isuzu-impulse-turbo/

    Just had to mention that bit.

    • 0 avatar
      dolorean

      The really rare Impulse had the Lotus tuned suspension and four wheel steering.

      • 0 avatar
        krhodes1

        No Impulse of that gen ever had 4-wheel steering. It had a live axle! It was fundamentally a Chevette underneath.

        Lotus did tune the suspension though. But how much can you do with a Chevette?

        • 0 avatar
          dolorean

          I stand corrected, although only slightly. From wiki: “The suspension consisted of MacPherson struts both front and rear, with a rigid trailing arm front suspension and a multi-link rear suspension, featuring Nishiboric passive steering”

          Many modern cars have passive steering now, but was interesting to find on what was a cheap sub-compact.

  • avatar

    I’ll be joining Chris in posting vehicles of special interest to the Classic and Collector Car forum. I posted a thread about a Corvair Rampside pickup to get started.

  • avatar
    Russycle

    Always loved the Impulse. The Pulsar would be tempting for its in-your-face eighties-ness.

  • avatar
    seth1065

    regarding the saab parts are pretty easy to come by Saab spun off their parts division so it is a up and running business, I have not had any issues getting parts for mine.

    • 0 avatar
      heavy handle

      Yeah, parts availability is better than most 15-year-old cars, especially if you are willing to pay for original parts. Saab Parts (the name of the new spinoff) has done a really good job. They are motivated to keep as many Saabs on the road as possible.

      • 0 avatar
        JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

        Define “most” please. My car is 20 years old, the parts are widely available, cheap, and from muliple sources. Granted, it sold in far greater numbers than the Saab, but then “most” cars did.

        Ive owned lots of old cars. In the last five years, Ive had a 1996 Ford Aerostar, 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300D, 1986 Isuzu Trooper, and a 1991 Ford Tempo GLS (in addition to my 95 Taurus I drive now). I had minimal trouble finding parts for them, the most difficult was a fuel tank for the Trooper.

        It was a one year only engine, and when that engine was used in the P’Up and Impulse, they used different fuel tanks. Noone made a replacement tank, and the one that I had was rusted beyond repair. So, I did some research and found out that the 2wd Amigo (first gen) used the same engine and presumably, the same fuel tank. So, I managed to locate one in a pull-your-own junk yard in a near by city, and being from a junkyard, they had punched holes in it. But, it was correct for my Trooper, in excellent shape otherwise and had the sending unit I needed (cheap, too), so I paid a machine shop $50 to repair it. They did an excellent job and even pressure tested it without my asking them to do so. I painted it with Rustolium and installed it. Problem solved.

        Parts for the Mercedes were easy to find online (and even found another W123 in the same yard the Amigo was in), but far from affordable, which was a major factor in my selling it. What it needed wasnt pratical to buy used, mostly, but I did get a steering piece for it out of that junkyard one.

      • 0 avatar
        Scoutdude

        They are motivated to unload as many of the old parts they have lying around as possible. If it keeps Saabs on the road so they can sell the owner more parts in the future all the better.

  • avatar
    PRNDLOL

    I find the Impulse intriguing. The Scout is a bang-on 4×4 brute classic, but at its $15 large selling price just not compelling enough.

  • avatar
    Monty

    *giggle* you said titillating *snort*

  • avatar
    dolorean

    For me, a true crap car would the ’88 Yugo GLC cabrio. Or Chevette Diesel 5 door with 3 spd auto. Or Renault Fuego! Or ’06 Dodge Calibre below rental vehicle base model.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

      Agreed, but make the Shitvette a gas model so its engine isnt desirable. The car would be misribly slow, and wouldnt be good on fuel without overdrive.

      The Yugo would be interesting for the sake if it being rare, and the most expensive version of a notoriously cheap car.

      I owned a Yugo for an afternoon. I bought it for $50 without a title. A tie rod broke as I was beating the crap out of it, and so I left it running and watched it from a buddy’s first gen Accord sedan. It sat there idling for like 10 minutes, then the exhaust turned cloudy, then a billow of steam from under the hood, then it sputtered and died.

      Im sure Pull-A-Part got $50 worth out of it, lol. I was hoping to take it to a buddie’s field and get my money’s worth out of it, but oh well.

      • 0 avatar
        dolorean

        When I was twelve and before I had anything of my own that I cared about, I and a friend took an M-80 and shoved it into the tailpipe of a Yugo parked in a lot. Lit it, ran away and watched in fascination hearing the POP!, the Yugo shaking like a paintcan at Ace Hardware, and two seconds later, the entire exhaust system collapsing to the ground with a loud KA-Chang! What an a-hole I was.

  • avatar
    Jeff S

    I always liked the IH Scouts and have a special place in my heart for all the IH passenger vehicles.

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