By on January 16, 2015

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With the Volkswagen Tiguan going bigger for the United States market in 2017, senior execs believe a smaller entry-level crossover could soon take its place.

Ward’s Auto reports the new crossover would be Golf-based, and would become the fourth crossover in VW’s U.S. lineup alongside the aforementioned Tiguan, the upcoming midsize CrossBlue, and the larger Touareg. The smaller crossover could take its cue from the T-ROC two-door crossover that bowed in Geneva last year, and may likely be built at the automaker’s facility in Puebla, Mexico, where the Golf, Jetta and Beetle are assembled.

Speaking of the CrossBlue, that seven-seater will likely add more models to the lineup, such as one similar to the Cross Coupe GTE PHEV from this year’s Detroit Auto Show. Both of those models would be produced in Chattanooga, Tenn.

As for the next-gen Tiguan, production is expected to begin in North America in 2017, possibly joining the Golf-based crossover in Puebla, as well. The Tiguan will also grow to over 185 inches in overall length, gain a third-row seat, and be able to hold seven passengers, all to better market the crossover to consumers in the U.S.

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36 Comments on “Volkswagen: Golf-Based CUV May Slot Under Next-Gen Tiguan...”


  • avatar
    whynot

    Smart plans, but this should have been approved years ago with production starting this year, not several years from now.

    In typical VW fashion I predict 2017, right when their CUVs drop, is exactly when the public will stop caring about them(CUV) and move on to some other segment that VW will be years away from entering.

  • avatar

    VW has so roundly botched this segment it’s amazing.

    They are so good at making one platform work for tonnes of different models, why are they *just* now doing a small CUV. To be fair, they have a small CUV that looks good and drives quite nicely…but is so far behind in the fuel economy race (not to mention, pricey) that no one dares look at it.

  • avatar
    kurtamaxxguy

    FYI current Tiguan’s are 174″ long with a 103″ wheelbase and 3785 lbs curb weight. Definitely smaller than most CUV’s. Perhaps that and a high price hold Tiguan’s popularity down.

    • 0 avatar
      klossfam

      It’s definitely a price issue (and some old, relatively unfounded reliablity fears) that hurt the Tiguan because it is an excellent vehicle. We have a 2011 Tiguan SEL with the Premiun Pkg with 55,000 miles and next to no issues despite a hard life…My wife loves it as a daily driver with her 60 mile round trip commute. Returns the actual mpg ratings and has V6 power with the 2.0T.

      I know I beat a dead horse but if we could get the 2.0 TDI that everyone outside North America buys in their Tiguans, people WOULD pay the premium. The ONLY small CUV with a diesel is the MB GLK250 BluTec but you are stepping into the entry-level lux category and $40k-$45k with typical options (BTW, this GLK250 BT is a nice ride – have test driven twice – only downside to the GLK is the smallish back seat). A Tiguan with the TDI – or a Mazda CX-5 with the long troubled Mazda 2.2T diesel – would definitely sell well in North America…even at $29k-$35k…

      • 0 avatar
        hreardon

        Klossfam –

        I’d like to agree with you, but reality paints a very different reality in the marketplace. A friend who does a lot of work with Honda mentioned a year or so ago that CRVs are lease queens. I don’t recall the exact number but it’s something approaching 50% are leased. CRVs hit the magic $350/month number.

        If Volkswagen wants to have a crack at that kind of volume they’ll have to ensure similar lease terms.

        My wife is one of those CRV buyers – her 2012 has been a great car, loads of space, comfortable enough; And the recent update apparently fixed my biggest complaint: too much wind and road noise.

        • 0 avatar
          Extra Credit

          The Tiguan link that Volkswagen kindly placed in my browser with this article shows Tiguan leasing in Ontario at $108 bi-weekly. Getting near $350/month shouldn’t be too difficult.

    • 0 avatar

      You are absolutely correct; Ward’s flipped that number around. Leftlane News says 185 inches in overall length for 2017.

    • 0 avatar
      ect

      We tested a Tiguan in December 2013. Quite liked it – great handling for its class, very comfy seats (especially the back – my wife is a real estate broker, so that matters).

      We placed it 3rd in our (very long) list, based on value for money spent. On comfort and fun to drive, it was way ahead of the Rogue, CRV and RAV4, well ahead of the Escape. The Sportage equaled it on handling, beat it on value for money.

      Having said that, we bought a Mercedes B250 (but thought long and hard between that and the Sportage). Had we opted for the Tiguan, though, we would not have regretted it. Unlike any of the Rogue, CRV RAV4, and Escape.

      • 0 avatar
        klossfam

        ect-Interesting you brought up the Sportage as my daughter just leased a 2014 Sportage EX. I agree on the similarities between the Tiguan and Sportage in handling. Having driven both quite a bit, there is still a little more refinement in the Tiguan including less wind noise/more sound insultation. The Sportage is a little harder to see out of with the higher beltline and smaller rear window but I’m impressed with Kia 2.4 GDI powerplant and the Dynamax AWD system. The Kia is the better value as with similar trim, the Kia is close to $4k less out the door (and MUCH less if you lease – in sync with what hreardon mentioned above in regards to VW leases). We own all our vehicles except that Kia which was has a ridiculously low lease on what was a $28k list price vehicle. The Sportage is a lot of value for the money.

        • 0 avatar
          ect

          We tested both the Sportage and the Optima. And were very impressed by both.

          I can’t comment on leases, as we didn’t investigate that. Perhaps we should have, but I’m kind of old-fashioned about personal finances.

          I agree with you that the Tiguan has a sense of refinement that is beyond the Sportage. We tested the Sportage SX, with the turbo 2.0, which has everything you could want.

          At the end of the day, we live in downtown Toronto, so we get along fine with 1 car, and my wife is a real estate broker, so her needs triumph. She needs a vehicle that is small and nimble enough to let her negotiate condo garages with ease, while seating 2 adults in the back comfortably.

          The Sportage, Tiguan and other CUVs still make the average adult climb up into the vehicle and down from it. For oldsters, this can be an issue. Most sedans make you slide down into the car and climb out of it. A tall hatch enables people to enter and exit the car without “climbing”, which is part of what decided us on the B Class.

          But we were impressed with what Kia gives you for your money. I’m sure your daughter must be enjoying it.

          Our daughter, by contrast, is 2/3 the way through a 3-year assignment in the UK. She bought a many-years old VW Polo when she started, which continues to render yeoman service, but can hardly be called luxurious or contemporary. She’s due to return to the US in August, so she’ll need to shop for something on her return.

    • 0 avatar
      mikedt

      With the mpg of a Honda minivan and a price well within the ballpark of one, it’s no surprise that a tiny CUV isn’t selling that well.

  • avatar
    gasser

    Too little.
    Too late.

  • avatar
    sirwired

    What’s the difference in size between the Tiguan update and the forthcoming CrossBlue? Seems odd to go from zero to two seven-seaters. I’m not sure the Tiguan update needs the third row.

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      I’m not sure there needs to be an update to a Tiguan. I would drop that name for something else. Nobody wants one.

    • 0 avatar
      SCE to AUX

      The obsession with adding third rows should end. There is no point in claiming seating for 7, when the seating becomes so tight that real people can’t sit in the 2nd or 3rd rows.

      • 0 avatar
        clivesl

        The point of all these new tiny third rows is field trips and play dates. No one is going to use these regularly, but the ability to carry an extra couple of rugrats in a pinch is worth having the otherwise useless third row. Think of it as a pick-up that tows once a year.

  • avatar
    brettc

    And the mind-numbing stupidity of VWoA continues… Since they have such horrible product planning skills, what they could do in the meantime is offer a base Tiguan and put the 1.8TSI in it. Lots of power and no premium requirement like the 2.0 that’s in it now. Offer it with cloth seats in the base trim, a manual and A/C as an option in certain areas. It could be the Tiguan QS. They might actually move some.

    • 0 avatar
      jpolicke

      All they need is to offer a Sportwagon with a 4Motion package (perhaps include a modest suspension lift) and the Tiguan would be completely redundant.

      • 0 avatar
        1998redwagon

        jpolicke i agree completely. why the heck vwoa doesnt angle for a jsw w/4motion is beyond me. subaru is eating their lunch with a raft of vehicles that fit that bill – outback, forester, imprezia – each one available with awd.

        the only 4motion you can get in a vw is the cc in some super lux edition, the tiguan and the toreag. all 3 of them are at the upper end of their respective segment price-wise and are designs that are quite long in the tooth.

  • avatar
    JohnnyFirebird

    Honestly I’m more excited by that little diesel truck that Hyundai was showing off, the Santa Cruz. If I was gonna get a VW, it would be a diesel Beetle, brown, manual. Or white. Or blue. Pretty much any colour as long as it’s diesel and manual.

  • avatar
    klossfam

    Having both a 2011 Tiguan and a 2011 GTI in my fleet, this is of interest…However, the wife’s Tiguan is ALREADY pretty small (on the outside)…Only 174″ long. Might be worth VW waiting to see how the Honda HR-V does. This Fit-based compact CUV should be interesting and an interesting barometer of what the market really wants (Especially when the CR-V sells like hotcakes). I like “small” for practical purposes especially with the way interior room is done now days…Small CUVs like the Tiguan, Kia Sportage, etc have pretty amazing rear passenger room even…Now if VW would just get the 2.0 TDI in the North American Tiguan or Audi Q3, we’d be talkin’!

  • avatar
    thegamper

    I admit that I have never really looked into VW’s Tiguan, but I was always under the impression that it was a Golf based CUV. It certainly looks similar in dimension with added ride height. I actually quite like the last gen Toureg V8, but sadly, I think VW is way out in left field with pricing on a lot of its products. German does not equal premium…..or even quality for that matter.

  • avatar
    kincaid

    I also have purchased a 2013 Tiguan for my wife and she loves it. Short length with high roof provides great maneuverability with a back seat very comfortable for two adults. High roof provides big frontal area that hurts fuel economy on highway and this is the tradeoff for short length that aids maneuverability.
    The turbo engine provides good power with low revs on highway and good NVH which confirms premium feel. Every time I drive it I am impressed with the level of refinement which I don’t think is common in small CUVs. Would like the latest VW 2.0T with additional 50 ft. lb of torque though.
    New Tiguan will have to get dramatically longer to get third seat in. This will create a new vehicle that would not be of interest to me. Also don’t get two door CUV proposal either. Two doors will be kiss of death. Need to work on styling as the Audi Q3 is gorgeous, however lowering the roof over the rear seat would be a deal breaker for me.

  • avatar
    EAF

    Cool the return of the Suzuki Amigo.

  • avatar
    MRF 95 T-Bird

    I’m not a great CUV fan but if they built a TROC 2 door with a targa I would be interested. After all the only vehicles that currently have a targa are the Corvette and Porsche 911.

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