By on April 12, 2017

[Image: FCA]

We won’t bore you with a rehash of the upgrades and advancements bestowed upon the 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon, because we already did that last week.

With the ultimate Mopar muscle machine now exposed at the New York International Auto Show, those advancements — and the speculation surrounding the vehicle’s unknowns — fade in comparison to newly released numbers. Power and acceleration figures, to be exact.

This time, the speculation was largely wrong, as the Demon makes more horsepower than we thought. So powerful is this limited-edition beast, it has already been banned from National Hot Rod Association dragstrips.

[Image: FCA]

The first number of note is 808. That’s the horsepower rating when the Demon’s tank is filled with 91-octane fuel. With 100-plus octane racing fuel on board, output rises to 840 hp at the same engine speed — 6,300 rpm. It looks like all those hidden mentions of “757” were red herrings.

Torque figures are similarly healthy. The Demon generates 717 lb-ft of twist at 4,600 rpm when sipping premium, or 770 lb-ft when its overfed 6.2-liter supercharged V8 guzzles track-ready firewater from its twin fuel pumps. Fiat Chrysler Automobiles claims that this makes it a record-breaker on the strip, assuming you can find one that will let you race.

The Demon’s blistering 9.65-second, 140 mph quarter-mile time has led the NHRA to slam the brakes on any factory Demon dragstrip participants. For now, anyways. It’s looking like the model’s “Demon Kit” is missing one last thing needed for track participation: a special license and extra safety gear.

2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon

On the street and elsewhere, the Demon’s 2.3-second 0-60 time, maximum g-force of 1.8, and ability to lift its front rubber during launch also places it ahead of its competitors. FCA claims a Guinness world record for longest production car wheelie from a standing stop.

If this sounds good to you, expect to live among exclusive company. With only a single-year run planned, and a total of 3,300 units planned (300 of which are Canada-bound), the Demon won’t become anything like the resident neighborhood Hellcat. The good news is that those missing passenger and rear seats are just a $1 option away.

FCA dealers on both sides of the borders should begin seeing Demons approaching this fall, likely in time for Hallowe’en. Pricing has not yet been announced.

[Images: Fiat Chrysler Automobiles]

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93 Comments on “NYIAS 2017: The Only Big Surprise from the Dodge Demon is Its Huge Power...”


  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    Gosh Sergio, I’m so glad you spent money on this.

    • 0 avatar
      Superdessucke

      Agreed! The YouTube videos of people busting these things up are going to be absolutely priceless. Thanks Sergio!

    • 0 avatar
      stuki

      I’m normally not a fan of silly HP street cars. I’m willing to make an exception for ones that can wheelie! That’s just plain cool! Besides, this thing is faster in the quarter than Jack’s new rocket (which can also wheelie, btw…)

  • avatar
    Frylock350

    Holy expletive, a 9 second factory car with a warranty! Its not even THAT expensive considering. What a time to be alive.

    • 0 avatar
      mason

      Exactly my thoughts. Even if people aren’t interested in a monster like this as car enthusiasts we should all be elated that factory cars of this caliber exist. And it comes with a 5 year 60k mile powertrain warranty to boot. If that don’t excite you I’d have to check your pulse to make sure your even alive.
      I’m head over heels in love!

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    God Bless America.

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    I think when you drive this it plays “America, F*ck Yeah” to bystanders as you zip past.

    • 0 avatar
      Frylock350

      It should play “you shall not pass” when someone tries to pull around you and your put your foot in it. You’ll smoke literally anything with 4 wheels and even a few things with 2.

    • 0 avatar
      Superdessucke

      Or as you careen towards them leaving a cars ‘n coffee.

    • 0 avatar
      seanx37

      Except it is built in Canada, by an Italian company, on an old Mercedes platform, with an engine built in Mexico and a ZF transmission.

      • 0 avatar
        baconator

        So, serious question: Can you put the Hellcat motor in a W210 Mercedes E-Class? Because *that* would be pretty interesting.

      • 0 avatar
        FOG

        Every party has a pooper that’s why we invited you, seanx37. We’re glad you could bring such a misguided and bigoted response to a discussion about what is a damn impressive car. What do you have against Canadians, Italians and Germans? Simple fact, there is not one mass produced vehicle made that has 100 percent content and assembly in a single country.

      • 0 avatar
        SweDane

        It’s still not an old MB platform …..
        The LX platform was done prior to the DC merger.
        After the merger the engineers from ChryCo went to Stuttgart and raided the corporate parts bin in the exact same manner as The Big Three had done for decades.
        Take a look under a new E-class and compare to a 8-10 year old one and you’ll find out that Daimler plays the exact same game..
        Buying an 8-speed from ZF is hardly a turnoff they’re used in Bentleys also..

    • 0 avatar
      APaGttH

      And yet, it will roll down the highway at 52 MPH in a 65 MPH zone stuck behind the Prius road boulder in the left lane.

      • 0 avatar
        Superdessucke

        True that. My E36 M3 is massively overpowered for all city and most suburban streets. And we all know what most American enthusiasts think of that car’s horsepower. This is just plain out ridiculous. As soon as the small dick lights into her throttle, all hell in addition to the tires is going to break loose. It’ll be entertaining to watch, from a great distance of course.

      • 0 avatar
        stuki

        But then, given a patch of empty tarmac, it can wheelie past it! Like any proper vehicle is supposed to be able to!

  • avatar
    highdesertcat

    ” overfed 6.2-liter supercharged V8″

    They brought back the BIG V8!

    Love it!

  • avatar
    JimZ

    Unfortunately, in order to get allocation dealers will have to accept shipment of 50 leftover Darts and 150 leftover 200s for every Demon they order.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    This is one of those rare times when I miss BTSR.

    • 0 avatar
      highdesertcat

      “This is one of those rare times when I miss BTSR.”

      You’ve been saying that a lot lately.

      Whatever happened to BTSR?

      I’ve been away quite awhile and did not keep up while fishing the Pacific off Ensenada, BC, Mexico.

      • 0 avatar
        mikey

        HDC…I think BTSR pushed his luck a bit to far….TTAC management dusted off the “Ban Button”

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        BTSR got voted off the island a long time ago.

        • 0 avatar
          highdesertcat

          Thanks guys, I didn’t know that.

          Am I safe to assume that some of the “regulars” who no longer opine on ttac have also left?

          • 0 avatar
            mikeg216

            Correct

          • 0 avatar
            highdesertcat

            mikeg216, I must have missed some serious schit, and I’ve been on ttac since the days of Farago.

          • 0 avatar
            jhefner

            Like the rest of the internet, things got really bad in the mnonths before and after the election. Thank goodness things have quieted down again.

          • 0 avatar
            highdesertcat

            jhefner. Thank you for the enlightenment and my edification.

            Both sides of the political spectrum have strong, unyielding vested interests in the outcome of an election, and election outcomes have a direct and lasting impact on the US auto industry.

            So I can only imagine the gloating on one side while the other side ran around like chickens with their heads cut off when the outcome of this last election, and its ramifications, became unmistakably clear and self-evident.

            We were in Germany for an extended stay with family and missed “The Whole Election Enchilada”, voting by mail-in absentee ballots at a US Airbase there.

  • avatar
    Verbal

    U can haz moar powah.

  • avatar
    carguy

    “So powerful is this limited-edition beast, it has already been banned from National Hot Rod Association dragstrips.”

    That’s misleading. It’s just fast enough to require a competition license and some mandatory safety equipment.

  • avatar
    Rday

    LOL. This is the perfect car for the 14 year-olds with delayed puberty and also for the 60+ year-olds that have lost their ability to satisfy a woman but want to impress the women/teeny-boppers with their muscle cars and bellowing exhausts. Kinda like a bull bellowing while they remove his horns and his cajones and make his a steer. Sad to be the bull but that is the way life is. Nobody wants to admit to being the steer so this car will probably do well with the ‘steer crowd’.
    But it keeps FCA going and people employed, at least for the near future.

    • 0 avatar
      highdesertcat

      “But it keeps FCA going and people employed, at least for the near future.”

      I don’t have a need for one of these either, but I’m glad they can be had.

      More BIG V8s please.

      Like, how about this engine in the RAM trucks?

      What a collector’s item!

    • 0 avatar
      mikey

      @Rday……As far as the 60 + crowd buying one these beasts ??..Its same reason a dog licks his nuts……Because he can.

    • 0 avatar
      mason

      I’d personally love to have one.

      And just to prove your theory wrong I’d take your lady out in it for the night.

    • 0 avatar
      MrIcky

      So you have to be old and de-testeroned in your little world to enjoy a fun car huh? Things must be sad there Rday.

      Personally I see most of these going to middle east exchange students.

    • 0 avatar
      raph

      Always easy to spot the dude that regrets buying a Prius.

    • 0 avatar
      baconator

      Honestly, it’s way too expensive for teenagers, and too raw and uncomfortable for Boomer-age posers. I’m going to guess that the target demo for this is a contractor-type in his 30s or 40s who has enough money for the race trailer and toys, and actually will drag race this thing.

      They took out the sound deadening, the A/C, and the *seats*. Posers will pass – a regular Hellcat is enough for them. FCA really needs a well-engineered small car and a hybrid drivetrain for Jeeps and minivans, but they don’t have the cash flow to pull those off. So I’m glad they did this – at least it’s a winning car.

  • avatar
    George B

    I wonder if FCA is going to offer a factory roll cage as an option? The issue regarding NHRA drag racing isn’t that it’s too powerful. Much less powerful cars carrying less weight would also need a roll cage if they achieve an ET in the 9s and a trap speed of 135 mph.

    http://www.dragzine.com/news/nhra-amends-roll-barcage-rules-for-08-later-street-vehicles/

    The other obvious option is racing on 1/8 mile tracks to keep the trap speed down.

    • 0 avatar
      MrIcky

      FCA won’t because they’d have to retest it for a safety rating, which it won’t pass with a rollcage. However they may give all their data to Speedlogix so Speedlogix can make an ‘approved aftermarket’ one with logo’s etc. like they are doing for the 4point harness bar.

    • 0 avatar
      FormerFF

      Assuming the rollcage has sidebars above the top of the door openings, that’s a no-no for street use. If there’s any possibility of someone’s head striking a rollcage tube, the occupants have to wear helmets.

  • avatar
    Master Baiter

    While I’m fine with this car being available, I can’t imagine there will be a positive return on investment for FCA.
    .
    .

    • 0 avatar
      highdesertcat

      I agree. But sometimes it’s more about market-place presence than ROI.

      An entry like this is, well….., priceless?

      I tell you what, I’d swap my Tundra 5.7L for another Tundra with a 7.0L, or even one with a Supercharged 5.7L.

      Gotta love that stuff.

    • 0 avatar
      carguy

      The Demon is mainly about boosting the company image so I think they can charge the R&D to the marketing department.

    • 0 avatar
      MrIcky

      I can’t imagine it cost that much to develop. I think they’ll have a positive return because I don’t think it cost a fortune and it’s a decent halo. Some good vendor partnerships could have netted them a lot of these parts. Some of it is electronic trickery so some programmers. Dodge has been involved in drag racing forever so they had access to some people with know-how.

      I don’t know for sure, but I have a feeling this was a drop in the bucket for engineering budgets.

    • 0 avatar
      baconator

      It’s a sop to the dealers, who will mark up the first year’s production by $10k over sticker. Probably as much profit as they make on 20-30 Chrysler 200s.

  • avatar
    Polishdon

    “With only a single-year run planned, and a total of 3,300 units planned” Anyone who believes that….

    The LY cars (Charger/300/Challenger) are stuck on the same platform for at least another 2-3 years. Expect the Demon to sell out and FCA to release a new one next year.

    They didn’t invest for a simple 3,000 unit run. I would expect next year different colors, maybe a revised taillights (a.k.a. 1970’s Demon) and other tweaks to keep it in the news. Maybe even a Charger version next year.

    Would make the ultimate police pursuit vehicle….

  • avatar
    Lou_BC

    Sport bike guys are going to have to be careful at traffic lights.

    • 0 avatar
      White Shadow

      They already are whenever they pull up next to certain AWD Teslas. Hell, those Teslas are already approaching low 10s, which should be more than a match for anything other than a perfectly driven Demon in perfect conditions.

  • avatar
    cartunez

    The car screams America baby!!!!

  • avatar
    TR4

    Not bad, although a top fuel dragster will do 0-60 in 0.5 seconds or so.
    What I don’t get is why the insurance companies killed the high powered muscle cars in 1971, but seem to be ignoring them now. Any ideas why?

    • 0 avatar
      jhefner

      Way better chassis designs and computer nannys like ABS and ESP, not to mention airbags. Far from impossible to crash one of these, but a lot more difficult to do so and not walk away from it.

    • 0 avatar
      chuckrs

      0-60 at 5.6Gs average….. IIRC, the most you get out of an extreme roller coaster is about 2.5Gs.
      No wonder the Demons have two fuel pumps. But putting things in perspective, 50 years ago, when NASA was lighting off the first Saturn F1 engines, their fuel pump was a little more impressive. It was a turbopump driven by its own rocket engine, said engine producing 50000hp just to feed the F1 beast. Now that there is some fuel flow.

    • 0 avatar
      White Shadow

      It wasn’t the insurance companies that killed them. It was a combination of emissions controls mixed in with a little bit of gas shortages. Early emissions systems were horrible. Very restrictive and managed to sap the power out of an engine. Then the gas shortages started to put people into the mindset of smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles (like the old Toyotas) and before you knew it, the muscle cars started to die off.

    • 0 avatar
      Geekcarlover

      Not so much killed them, just priced them out of the target demographic. A former teacher of mine came into a chunk of cash when he was 20. Being 20 years old he promptly bought a new (71 I believe) Trans Am. After two tickets his monthly rate was equal to a car payment.
      Go online to your insurance company and add one of these, a Hellcat, or something similar. Your rates likely will scare you back to a family sedan.

  • avatar
    runs_on_h8raide

    This car will not play well in the Bible Belt. Fortunately, Hennessy has the solution with Exorcist Camaro. Where is the peak? Is this peak horsepower? Is this the pinnacle of pure, unadulterated raw power, in light of what the nanny state wants to shove down the throats of the common man with autonomous ‘mobility systems’? This may be the last big FUCK YOU to the man! God bless Dodge!

  • avatar
    Tandoor

    Comes standard with Hellcat Assist. At the touch of a button, the vehicle scans its surroundings for the densest immovable object and automatically puts the side of the car into it.
    Looking forward to seeing automotive news without this stupid car being gushed over. It’s the equivalent of Kardashian news to me at this point. My apologies to those who are really excited, but I just can’t take any more Demon.

  • avatar
    CarnotCycle

    “FCA dealers on both sides of the borders should begin seeing Demons approaching this fall, likely in time for Hallowe’en.”

    Enough time for mullet generation/prep before the dealer visit.

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    Everyone made the same comments when the Hellcat came out – justifiably. Does this car render the Hellcat less valuable or desirable? I think it does.

    And what’s next – a Challenger “Banshee” or something, with 909 HP, which makes the Demon last year’s news?

  • avatar
    Corollaman

    And to think Sergio wanted to kill off Dodge!

  • avatar
    bluegoose

    FCA will make a nice profit on all of these Demons. This is a High Performance Extreme Hellcat. It didn’t take a ton of cash to build. The Viper is gone. This is the Halo Replacement. The drag strip is for Dodge. The road coarse is for Alfa.

  • avatar
    APaGttH

    So a production 1/4 mile mean machine that you can’t use on a legit 1/4 mile because it lacks the proper safety equipment out of the box.

    I had posted here in the B&B months ago that an under 11 second 1/4 mile time out of the box would cause issues, and an under 10 second time would negate it from being used on a sanctioned drag strip without significant modifications.

    I can’t say that I’m thrilled that a 0 to 60 in 2.6 second car has been built where that brutal power can basically only be used…on the street.

    • 0 avatar
      mason

      The cars aren’t banned from anything. As a driver if you dip below 9.9 seconds or 135 mph trap speed most legit track officials will park you for the night and ask you not to come back until you have a cage and an NHRA license. The safety requirements have a as much to do with the driver as the car. Remember the times that were put down in the Demon were from a professional driver on a prepped track, the majority of people who buy these and take them to a local track a few times a month will have a hard time achieving similar times. Caging a car isn’t that difficult either, but I suspect anybody that’s serious about competitive drag racing won’t even look at these. The Challenger Drag Pack cars come with a cage and is capable of running low 8’s.

    • 0 avatar
      JMII

      It is a bit odd that they removed the seats but didn’t bother putting a cage in. As mentioned this car is useless on the street and is clearly build and marketed as a track toy, yet it lacks the cage… a simply safety item that be included. The BMW M4 GTS has a cage, so its not unheard for a factory vehicle. I think its awesome they built it but I assume 1/3 of them will be wrecked rather quickly, 1/3 will be used correctly and the last 1/3 will stay wrapped in plastic in someone’s underground collection.

  • avatar
    EBFlex

    Typical TTAC, Chrysler hating garbage.

    Only big surprise with this car is the power? How about the fact this car does a wheelie…..from the factory.

    This car is one of the greatest automotive milestones of all time. To say anything less is an insult to the car, the designers, and the entire industry.

  • avatar
    Halftruth

    Mopar go far.. Question is, do we really need 800 plus horsepower machines on the street? In the hands of amateurs whilst destroying the environment? What about the children? (record scratch)… Hell yes. Enjoy it before it’s gone.

  • avatar
    NeilM

    “The Demon generates 717 lb-ft of twist at 4,600 rpm when sipping premium”

    More like slurping premium like a drunken sailor with a line-up of Tequila shots.

  • avatar
    pb35

    I’d be pissed if I bought a Hellcat.

    My sister had a Demon in the 80s…with a slant 6.

  • avatar
    2drsedanman

    Maybe Chrysler can put this drivetrain in the 300 and come up with a new letter car. They can call it the F-U.

  • avatar
    Jeff S

    The first 70 1/2 Challengers were rated in the high risk category by insurance companies in the early 70’s. Insurance companies can effect vehicle sales if the insurance premiums are high enough. With this limited edition Challenger Demon I doubt most who will buy it will be that effected by the insurance premiums. The 70 1/2 Challengers with the performance packages were more affordable and plentiful than this special model and the horsepower they had is closer to what a compact and midsize car is today. I had a roommate in college in the 70’s that had a special edition 70 1/2 Challenger with a 340 6 pack (3 2 barrel carbs) and adjustable rear shocks–it was a beast and he drove it like a madman.

    I doubt you will see this car driven on a regular basis and is most likely to be in the garage under a car cover waiting for the value to go up. You might see a few of these being raced but most will end up as garage queens.

  • avatar
    06M3S54B32

    LOL. . 2.3 seconds to put this piece of sh*t into a ditch. Another pointless, non-handling, American made POS.


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