Volkswagen TDI Owners Being Stuck With $1,000+ AdBlue Heater Repairs, Still Not EPA Compliant

Mark Stevenson
by Mark Stevenson

Owners of some Volkswagen TDI models are experiencing premature selective catalyst reduction (SCR) failures because of AdBlue heaters that, in some cases, aren’t lasting more than 50,000 miles.

According to a source who spoke to TTAC under the condition of anonymity, many Volkswagen TDI owners are arriving at dealerships after seeing check engine lights for failing AdBlue (diesel emissions fluid) heaters. Those heaters, explained the source, fail “based more on time than mileage” and cost over $1,000 to replace.

The cost of the parts and labor is a slap to the face for many TDI owners, as SCR systems in those cars are not scrubbing the required amount of NOx from diesel exhaust even when the AdBlue heaters are operating properly.

The AdBlue heater in question is covered under warranty for up to 36,000 miles or 3 years, whichever comes first. However, many of the failures are happening just outside of that warranty window, at around 50,000 miles or 4 years of ownership.

With the increased focus on Volkswagen’s diesel emissions, many have taken to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s complaints website to explain their issues and voice their displeasure with how Volkswagen is handling the issue.

NOX SENSOR MALFUNCTIONED OUT OF RANGE CODE. WAS QUOTED 655 DOLLARS TO REPLACE. NOX SENSORS ARE NOT REQUIRED BY FEDERALLY MANDATED 80K EMISSIONS WARRANTY SO VW WON’T INCLUDE VOLUNTARILY. ONE WEEK AFTER HAVING THIS FIXED, THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT TURNS ON AGAIN WITH CODE P203B, REDACTANT LEVEL RANGE/PERFORMANCE. SPEAKING A FEW TIMES WITH TECHNICIANS AT THE DEALERSHIP, THIS LIKELY MEANS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE AD BLUE HEATER UNIT AND TANK WHICH IS OVER 1000 DOLLARS. AGAIN, NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY.

THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON 9/10/15. I BROUGHT THE CAR INTO THE DEALERSHIP ON 9/12/15 AND LEARNED THAT THE CAR’S ADBLUE HEATER HAD GONE AND WILL COST JUST OVER $1,000 TO REPLACE. THE ADBLUE HEATER HEATS THE ADBLUE TO REMOVE NO2 FOR EMISSIONS, HOWEVER VOLKSWAGEN IS CLAIMING THAT THIS IS NOT COVERED UNDER THE EMISSIONS WARRANTY. THE ADBLUE SYSTEM HAS NOT OTHER PURPOSE THAN FOR EMISSIONS AND SHOULD BE COVERED UNDER THE FEDERAL WARRANTY, AS THE EMISSIONS WOULD FALL OUTSIDE OF THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS WITHOUT THIS COMPONENT. PROPER EMISSIONS HELP TO KEEP OUR ENTIRE POPULATION SAFE AND HEALTHY FROM THE HARMFUL POLLUTANTS GENERATED BY VEHICLES.

THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AND I HAD CODES READ. THE CODE WAS P205C AND THIS INDICATES THE EMISSIONS ADBLUE HEATER AND SENSOR HAD A PROBLEM. THE UNIT (HEATER AND SENSOR) IN THE ADBLUE TANK IS A NON SERVICEABLE UNIT AND MUST BE REPLACED. OVER $750.00 TO REPLACE. ALL THE EFFICIENCY OF TDI JUST WENT UP IN SMOKE. HAPPENED AT 4,000 MILES PAST WARRANTY AND DEALER HAD NO HELP EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF TDI’S ARE HAVING IDENTICAL PROBLEMS. SEEMS TO BE A DEFECT IN DESIGN, MANY MANY TDI’S ARE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM.

An entire ClubTouareg.com forum thread is dedicated to the failures.

Forum user TouaregRoadie says:

My dealer-maintained, IMMACULATE 2012 TDI Lux just went in for a check engine light and the diagnosis was the AdBlue heater has gone bad. I have 51,000 all-highway miles and was surprised to learn (as are many after reading on these forums) that this part is not covered under the powertrain or emissions warranties.

Interesting to note, this happened within a week of my 50,000 mile service at the dealer. Coincidence?

After calling VWoA they came back with an offer to cover the parts (approximately $1,000 of the $1500 quote after labor and shop fees).

In light of the bad press that VW is having with the EPA currently on it’s other TDI models, I’m wondering how many of our vehicles are experiencing this problem, and how many of us would it take to get VW to fix this via recall?

In many cases, like that experienced by TouaregRoadie, Volkswagen seems willing to pony up for the cost of parts, but only in certain situations.

Our source explained “a good dealership will be able to receive goodwill assistance for loyal customers with under 70,000 miles on their vehicles. But after 70,000 miles or so, there hasn’t been any goodwill help.”

A diesel vehicle owner’s chance of receiving help for an AdBlue issue, or one of the many injector failures resulting from bad diesel fuel, is mainly dependant on a dealer’s relationship with Volkswagen, and less on the customer’s loyalty to the brand, said our source.

Since 2012, the model year which has seen the most AdBlue failures to date, Volkswagen has redesigned the AdBlue heater and replacements shouldn’t run into the same issue in another 50,000 miles.

That’s not much comfort for the many thousands of Volkswagen TDI customers. Shelling out $1,000 or more to keep a vehicle compliant with emissions law is one thing. Doing the same and still not being compliant is something else entirely.

As of today, we have stopped reaching out to Volkswagen Group of America for comment.

In the months since the diesel emissions scandal broke, we’ve given VWGoA every possible chance to offer its side with regards to numerous stories. Recently, those requests for comment have gone completely unanswered. As such, we will no longer be reaching out to VWGoA for comment.

Volkswagen knows how and where we can be reached, and they’re welcome to contact us at any time.

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  • Janubram Janubram on Feb 10, 2016

    I own a 2013 Passat TDI and question why anyone would repair or replace any failed or failing part of the emissions equipment. For about $2,000 you can get a full turbo-back exhaust system and ECM tune which would eliminate all future emission problems PLUS increase engine performance by 70+ HP and +150 ft-lbs of torque. All the emission control devices on diesel engines retard engine performance and reduce mechanical efficiency. Just a word of advice to TDI owners, do yourself a favor and do what I did. Buy a DPF, EGR, and AdBlue delete performance kit then have the ECM tuned to bypass any check engine lights, I promise you will love the extra power.

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    • UberKafer UberKafer on Feb 10, 2016

      Damn. Hope they don't catch you riding TDirty.

  • Art Vandelay Art Vandelay on Feb 10, 2016

    some people do live in states that check these things. But yeah, I'll saw the cats off my ecoboost and we can all breathe deep like it's 1977!

  • Redapple2 jeffbut they dont want to ... their pick up is 4th behind ford/ram, Toyota. GM has the Best engineers in the world. More truck profit than the other 3. Silverado + Sierra+ Tahoe + Yukon sales = 2x ford total @ $15,000 profit per. Tons o $ to invest in the BEST truck. No. They make crap. Garbage. Evil gm Vampire
  • Rishabh Ive actually seen the one unit you mentioned, driving around in gurugram once. And thats why i got curious to know more about how many they sold. Seems like i saw the only one!
  • Amy I owned this exact car from 16 until 19 (1990 to 1993) I miss this car immensely and am on the search to own it again, although it looks like my search may be in vane. It was affectionatly dubbed, " The Dragon Wagon," and hauled many a teenager around the city of Charlotte, NC. For me, it was dependable and trustworthy. I was able to do much of the maintenance myself until I was struck by lightning and a month later the battery exploded. My parents did have the entire electrical system redone and he was back to new. I hope to find one in the near future and make it my every day driver. I'm a dreamer.
  • Jeff Overall I prefer the 59 GM cars to the 58s because of less chrome but I have a new appreciation of the 58 Cadillac Eldorados after reading this series. I use to not like the 58 Eldorados but I now don't mind them. Overall I prefer the 55-57s GMs over most of the 58-60s GMs. For the most part I like the 61 GMs. Chryslers I like the 57 and 58s. Fords I liked the 55 thru 57s but the 58s and 59s not as much with the exception of Mercury which I for the most part like all those. As the 60s progressed the tail fins started to go away and the amount of chrome was reduced. More understated.
  • Theflyersfan Nissan could have the best auto lineup of any carmaker (they don't), but until they improve one major issue, the best cars out there won't matter. That is the dealership experience. Year after year in multiple customer service surveys from groups like JD Power and CR, Nissan frequency scrapes the bottom. Personally, I really like the never seen new Z, but after having several truly awful Nissan dealer experiences, my shadow will never darken a Nissan showroom. I'm painting with broad strokes here, but maybe it is so ingrained in their culture to try to take advantage of people who might not be savvy enough in the buying experience that they by default treat everyone like idiots and saps. All of this has to be frustrating to Nissan HQ as they are improving their lineup but their dealers drag them down.
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