QOTD: How Do You Use Your Horn?
Yesterday, someone had the audacity to honk at me. It wasn’t one of those cheerful little toots that a person might use to get someone’s attention when waving them into traffic, but a full-on ten second blast – the kind that you should only use when you are behind the controls of a freight train that is bearing down upon someone in the tracks. The offender? Some octogenarian in a Buick. My crime? A not so near-miss that occurred while I was making a left turn across traffic from a side street into a center turn lane.
The fact I’m still stewing about it a full day later should say something about how often I get blasted with the horn. In the approximately thirty years I have been driving, I would guess it has happened less than a dozen times. Likewise, in that same period, I have only done it a few times myself, mostly from the back of a motorcycle, and then only after the gravest offense. That’s because I was taught, to put it mildly, that blasting the horn is an audible middle finger and the sort of thing that might cause a near miss to escalate into actual violence.
In my travels I have noticed that different cultures manifest themselves on the roads in different ways. In some cities blaring horns are so common that they have ceased to have any real effect. In the same way that someone who lives on the final approach to a major airport no longer hears the noise of the jets whizzing less than a thousand feet overhead, horns in those places have become a normal part of the background noise as innocuous as the chirping of birds to someone who lives near a park. Here in the good ol’ USA, however, the honking of horns for anything more than the occasional beep is uncommon and anything more might result in a hail of gunfire.
Although I am not officially assigned to TTAC’s Question Of The Day beat, I would like to start a discussion about horns, how and when they are used. Am I the only one who takes it personally when someone flips me the audible bird? Was my desire to follow the old man home and bludgeon him to death with his own walker reasonable, or unreasonable?
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- 28-Cars-Later Actually Honda seems to have a brilliant mid to long term strategy which I can sum up in one word: tariffs.-BEV sales wane in the US, however they will sell in Europe (and sales will probably increase in Canada depending on how their government proceeds). -The EU Politburo and Canada concluded a trade treaty in 2017, and as of 2024 99% of all tariffs have been eliminated.-Trump in 2018 threatened a 25% tariff on European imported cars in the US and such rhetoric would likely come again should there be an actual election. -By building in Canada, product can still be sold in the US tariff free though USMCA/NAFTA II but it should allow Honda tariff free access to European markets.-However if the product were built in Marysville it could end up subject to tit-for-tat tariff depending on which junta is running the US in 2025. -Profitability on BEV has already been a variable to put it mildly, but to take on a 25% tariff to all of your product effectively shuts you out of that market.
- Lou_BC Actuality a very reasonable question.
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I use it in 3 cases: - Dangerous drivers around my neighborhood. I see it as education for the countless parents who drop off their kids at the nearby elementary school then speed off and ignore all stop signs in the neighborhood where many kids are walking to that very same school. - Texters at the newly green light. - There's a U-turn-allowed left turn lane where the U-turn capability is solely dedicated to our trophy wife mall (on 8th to the Bravern in Bellevue, WA for those in the area). At rush hour, there will almost always be someone there holding up the left turn lane so they can U-turn into the mall but the traffic going the opposite side will block them from making a U-turn (they could just left turn instead and go in via another entrance, but they want to U-turn because it's a little closer). There I like to public shame them by using the lean-horn.
Not in the habit of using it much, having driven in Europe for many years where it is under most circumstances illegal. Now that I'm in North America my main use of the horn is a polite beep beep just before the blind spot when passing on the right on three-lane highways. Where I live the right lane is basically an extended on-off ramp, the middle lane is for "cruising" and the left lane is, uh, also for "cruising", usually at whatever speed you fancy. I know there's a lot of Righteous Vigilantes who think it's OK to rebuke other motorists with rude honking. It's not, any more than it's OK to shout abuse at people in the grocery store checkout who are too slow with their wallets and carts. Get a grip, people. As for using the horn to "avoid an accident" I'd far prefer to keep both hands on the wheel thanks.