FTC Launches Investigation Whether Car Dealers Colluded Against TrueCar

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The United States Federal Trade Commission has launched an investigation into whether car dealers colluded against the online car shopping site, TrueCar, over price competition the site encouraged. Automotive News is reporting that a number of car dealers, including the Kelly Automotive Group in the Boston area, received letters from the FTC saying that the agency is looking into whether companies in the “retail automobile industry” committed anticompetitive acts “by agreeing to refuse to deal with TrueCar” during 2001 and 2012.

Documents and emails relating to TrueCar were requested. At the time, many dealers openly criticized TrueCar’s business model, which encouraged dealers to offer discounts to compete for the business of car shoppers visiting the TrueCar site. Dealers complained about losing money on cars sold through TrueCar leads. TrueCar’s model at the time encouraged dealer to bid against each other on price. A number of dealers ended their relationship with TrueCar and the company subsequently changed procedures that put downward pressure on retail prices, bringing many of those dealers back. The company CEO, Scott Painter, made a point of saying that the FTC investigation was not provoked by a TrueCar complaint.

Mike Warwick, director of digital marketing at Kelly Automotive Group said he did not know why he was personally named in the letter to the dealer group, except that he had publicly criticized TrueCar and their business and pricing models on dealer oriented blogs during the period in question. An executive at a different dealership told the Automotive News that the letter they received mentioned comments he had made on blogs about TrueCar.

Painter took pains to distance himself from the investigation, no doubt to avoid further alienating dealers, saying that the company first learned of the investigation when they themselves were served with a letter from the FTC asking for documents. “I want to make this clear: We didn’t ask for it (the investigation), and we knew nothing about it,” Painter said. He also said the timing was odd in light of the fact that the company changed its practices and restored good relations with dealers. “It’s like calling in reinforcements for a battle that is already over,” Painter said, “It’s a pain for us and the dealers.” The company says that the number of participating dealers is back up to 6,500 stores after it dropped to about 3,200 in 2012.

The FTC would not comment on any investigation.

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  • Cdnsfan27 Cdnsfan27 on Sep 17, 2013

    Truecar is not a dealer's friend. They charge us for leads and customers expect below invoice prices and are never satisfied no matter what we do. We have stopped using Truecar. I have found the best deal is when the buyer are equally happy/unhappy. We charge a fair price, don't pack on add-ons and have outstanding customer service. In what other business does the consumer feel entitled to know the seller's true cost????

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    • Pch101 Pch101 on Sep 17, 2013

      If dealers are going to promote themselves based upon claims that they sell cars at or below invoice, then dealers should expect the smarter customers to ask to see the invoice.

  • Dave M. Dave M. on Sep 17, 2013

    "The car business is the only business I know where the customer expects to buy your product below your cost." Legions and decades of unscupulous dealers did that. Not so much below cost, but reasonably priced. MSRP is suggested; never mind dealer invoice and holdback and all the other ways dealers have of profiting from a high ticket item that a customer does once every 3-5-10-15 years. The typical car sales form has, what, 10 lines of price entry (including TTL)? Only buying real estate is more complex. And like buying a house, a car is an emotional purchase. The seller/agent has every advantage. The internet has helped level the field somewhat.

  • TheEndlessEnigma These cars were bought and hooned. This is a bomb waiting to go off in an owner's driveway.
  • Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Thankfully I don't have to deal with GDI issues in my Frontier. These cleaners should do well for me if I win.
  • Theflyersfan Serious answer time...Honda used to stand for excellence in auto engineering. Their first main claim to fame was the CVCC (we don't need a catalytic converter!) engine and it sent from there. Their suspensions, their VTEC engines, slick manual transmissions, even a stowing minivan seat, all theirs. But I think they've been coasting a bit lately. Yes, the Civic Type-R has a powerful small engine, but the Honda of old would have found a way to get more revs out of it and make it feel like an i-VTEC engine of old instead of any old turbo engine that can be found in a multitude of performance small cars. Their 1.5L turbo-4...well...have they ever figured out the oil dilution problems? Very un-Honda-like. Paint issues that still linger. Cheaper feeling interior trim. All things that fly in the face of what Honda once was. The only thing that they seem to have kept have been the sales staff that treat you with utter contempt for daring to walk into their inner sanctum and wanting a deal on something that isn't a bare-bones CR-V. So Honda, beat the rest of your Japanese and Korean rivals, and plug-in hybridize everything. If you want a relatively (in an engineering way) easy way to get ahead of the curve, raise the CAFE score, and have a major point to advertise, and be able to sell to those who can't plug in easily, sell them on something that will get, for example, 35% better mileage, plug in when you get a chance, and drives like a Honda. Bring back some of the engineering skills that Honda once stood for. And then start introducing a portfolio of EVs once people are more comfortable with the idea of plugging in. People seeing that they can easily use an EV for their daily errands with the gas engine never starting will eventually sell them on a future EV because that range anxiety will be lessened. The all EV leap is still a bridge too far, especially as recent sales numbers have shown. Baby steps. That's how you win people over.
  • Theflyersfan If this saves (or delays) an expensive carbon brushing off of the valves down the road, I'll take a case. I understand that can be a very expensive bit of scheduled maintenance.
  • Zipper69 A Mini should have 2 doors and 4 cylinders and tires the size of dinner plates.All else is puffery.
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