By on April 4, 2012

Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse, it did.

So apparently the 2013 Crosstour will get new transmissions (a 5-speed automatic for the 4-cylinder, and a 6-speed automatic for the V6), new “styling”, new safety features like lane departure warning, front collision avoidance and a4-inch display in the instrument cluster that can give turn-by-turn directions and other information while reducing distraction.

Woopdee-do! Put a V6 in the CR-V and call it a day already. Jack & Co. will tell us just how bad this thing really looks in a matter of minutes.

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88 Comments on “2013 Honda Crosstour: It’s Still Ugly...”


  • avatar
    Ubermensch

    It’s the Subaru Outback hatch.

    • 0 avatar
      Luke42

      Except without the features that make the Subaru appealing!

      Seriously, just make an Accord wagon that I can attach a trailer hitch to without voiding the warranty, and I’ll be very interested.

  • avatar
    mike978

    There is some resemblance to the new Impala from the front (or maybe that is just me).

    It already has a 5 speed transmission, so what is new about the 5 speed to come? Why not just offer the 6 speed across the whole lineup – sure some extra cost, but it simplifies the manufacturing process, improves mpg and improves economies of scale.

    CJ, we await your positive Honda comment for the day (whilst dissing the competition)!

    • 0 avatar
      CJinSD

      I don’t see anything about it that is worse than the current Crosstour, but I also don’t understand why they thought they needed a 2nd generation of a car that sells in such small numbers and invites such ridicule. It isn’t like I’m tripping over 535i GTs in areas where BMWs and Audis seem to be the best selling cars. If they’re just after a few extra sales, why not build a 3-row boxy wagon or a 3-door hatchback? Either one would get better mileage and be well received by the press while selling in Crosstour numbers.

      • 0 avatar
        carlisimo

        It’s not a second generation, just a mid-cycle facelift. It’s an improvement, but not enough of one for me. I’m biased against raised cars though.

      • 0 avatar
        mike978

        I agree with you that they could have done a 3 row boxy wagon or a hatchback.

        I also haven`t seen many 535i GT’s. The [point being (also with X6 vs ZDX) is that these make good money for BMW and sell globally. Is the Crosstour sold anywhere but North America?

      • 0 avatar
        mikedt

        the low sales are why I’m surprised they won’t let the US have the accord wagon. Nobody asked for a crosstour, and it’s apparent few want one. I find it hard to believe a wagon would sell any worse. Or is it simply a matter of fear that wagon sales would cannibalize CUV sales?

    • 0 avatar
      stuki

      That 4 needs a proper 6 speed, like the one in the Si.

    • 0 avatar
      APaGttH

      I told myself before I clicked on this story, let the Impala comparisons begin. Not that I see any Impala in the Crosstour, but I figured given the B&B commentary here, surely someone will draw that conclusion.

      Thank you for not disappointing – and it only took the second post, impressive.

  • avatar
    segfault

    I thought they were also going to unveil the 2013 Accord sedan at the New York Auto Show, but none of the auto sites have posted anything about it.

  • avatar
    Speed Spaniel

    Oh my God! Five and six speed transmissions and a 4 inch display that gives turn by turn directions!!! Yes people, the FUTURE is here!!!!!!!

  • avatar
    Sigivald

    It’s fine.

    It’s like a better-or-no-worse looking 535i GT, that you save $23k by buying.

    (Comparing the AWD 6-cylinder models, for maximum comparability.

    Oh, and the Honda’s 700 pounds lighter, which makes up for the small difference in power. And if that really bothered you, well, you can probably use some of that $23k to put a turbo on it.

    Plus, it’s a Honda, which suggests lower long-term maintenance costs; has Honda ever had a disaster like the long-wheelbase 7 series, for maintenance nightmares?)

  • avatar
    Chocolatedeath

    “has Honda ever had a disaster like the long-wheelbase 7 series, for maintenance nightmares?” I am thinking CL coupe.

    • 0 avatar
      redmondjp

      Well, you can start with the craptastic 1999-2004 V6 transmissions, my minivan was on its third at just over 100K miles.

    • 0 avatar
      GD3FTW

      what nightmare are you thinking of??? CL’s have no more maintenance than any other Honda. other than the auto trans, that car is fantastic. as a former Acura dealer employee, i know a CL-S with a manual was highly desirable car

      • 0 avatar
        chrishs2000

        Yeah, the CL-S 6MT was a pretty fantastic car. Too bad it was driving the front wheels, but in its day it was a really good alternative to a 330Ci before the G35 Coupe came along.

        “Nightmare” might be a bit overkill in describing the propensity of the 5AT to grenade itself (in comparison to the multitude of issues that the aforementioned BMW had which make it one of the most unreliable and expensive to maintain cars ever produced), but it is certainly not something that I would ever take a chance on. And I have 3 Hondas in my garage.

  • avatar
    FJ60LandCruiser

    And why would I buy this overpriced lumpy turd with no cargo space over the Subaru outback?

  • avatar
    Truckducken

    The hood strakes are missing.

  • avatar
    "scarey"

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/cm/popularmechanics/images/xb/xcars-470-1108.jpg

  • avatar
    toplessFC3Sman

    Hmm. Its a caliber with a more sloped hatch

  • avatar

    Can’t wait for the retirees to ignore the carping and buy this and Venza in larger numbers than BMWs.

    • 0 avatar
      mike978

      Pretty low bar to set if you want this to outsell the 535i GT – which I assume it already does.
      The Venza is much better received and sells a lot better. I wouldn`t class both together.

      • 0 avatar
        kvndoom

        I find the Venza quite attractive, and I don’t even like Toyota. I saw one up close and my very first thought was “this is a station wagon for women who wouldn’t be caught dead in a station wagon.”

      • 0 avatar

        I agree that Venza is better. Its internal volume is greater inside the same footprint for one thing. Still, the difference is less than between Prius and Insight. That is the one Honda-haters should be harping about, not this one.

      • 0 avatar
        mike978

        Pete – I agree about the Insight but why is the gap between Insight and Prius (similar looks) greater than Venza to Crosstour? I like the Venza.

        Also the CRZ seems to have died a quiet death. Never hear anything about it (Edmunds, TTAC etc), especially compared to the Prius C buzz.

      • 0 avatar
        Luke42

        “Also the CRZ seems to have died a quiet death. Never hear anything about it (Edmunds, TTAC etc), especially compared to the Prius C buzz.”

        I don’t hear much about the CRZ, but I’ve been seeing a lot of them on the road.

        Surprisingly, I see a couple of them delivering food — I’m guessing that their parents helped them buy the car, but they still have to earn some money.

        Overall, it looks like the CRZ is selling to same kind of folks who drove the CRX. I always thought the CRX was a cool car.

  • avatar
    MarkP

    I want to like this, but I can’t. To me, it’s an answer to a question that no one asked. When that’s done well, it’s a great business model: identify something that the customer doesn’t know he wants – yet. But Honda just hasn’t pulled it off, and I think the main reason is that they haven’t figured out what it is.

  • avatar
    bkmurph

    Faux skid plates will make everything look better!

  • avatar
    vbofw

    Wowie! This heffer will at the very least challenge CJ/SD’s spin machine. I am confident he will persevere, though.

    It’s somewhat surprising to see a 5-speed tranny on a new non-econobox car design. Honda’s strategy is most certainly “if it ain’t broke…”.

  • avatar
    ZoomZoom

    For me, it’s the Fordish-looking front grill that takes it down a notch.

  • avatar
    NormSV650

    Honda Crosstour is so ugly, even it’s employee…oh never mind as history may soon repeat itself.

    http://thegarageblog.com/garage/honda-the-accord-crosstour-and-facebook/

  • avatar
    EquipmentJunkie

    Honda has lost their way. Lame product introductions from the last few years are being reinforced by current sales numbers. Excuses will abound from the loyal…the rest are going to Korean and domestic dealers.

  • avatar
    docrock

    Honda build an Aztec and then spends more R/D money on Aztec 2.0.

    • 0 avatar
      Mr. Sparky

      Well, all three of the original Aztec ownwer should be about ready for a replacement. This should fill the bill.

      They’ve got the one from the press shoot, so Honda will only need to build two more to meet the market demand.

      • 0 avatar
        dima

        I do not know, I like Aztec. Newer owned one, but still like it. Perhaps because Aztec was a car you can spot miles away. I been inside one, it was good. Now about this Honda thing, what statement Honda trying to convey: “We know we suck at this car business”?

      • 0 avatar
        Luke42

        I though the Aztec was one of the ugliest cars ever made.

        The owners seem to really like it, though, while acknowledging that its looks don’t appeal. They seem to say that the thing was relatively dependable, and fairly useful, and had a good use of interior space. I respect that.

        The funny thing is that the Aztec is shaped roughly like a big Prius, and I really like the way the Prius looks. I guess the detail is in the details with respect to the Aztec’s styling.

        I really tried to like the Aztec when I was shopping for my Escape. But the funky faux-sporty Pontiac interior finally killed it for me — I could almost get over a funky exterior, but the interior didn’t look like something I could modify to suit my needs. The Escape was cheaper, has the same towing capacity, and also had a double-din stereo opening. So, I went for the cheaper car.

    • 0 avatar
      APaGttH

      There was no Aztek 2.0.

      The Aztek was based on the 1.0 version of the GM U-Body. When GM U-Body 2.0 came out in mid/late 2005, the Aztek died. GM didn’t spend any money on an Aztek 2.0. It did lose its plastic cladding for one or two model years, but that was an edict of Lutz when he came on board, and was not a 2.0 change.

    • 0 avatar
      240SX_KAT

      Someone needs to make an aftermarket hood with the Pontiac nostrils on it.
      If you had one of those and took of the H badges, would it qualify as Aztec 2.0?

  • avatar
    redmondjp

    And it’s still the answer to an automotive question that nobody was asking.

  • avatar
    omer333

    I have a Crosstour. Been leasing it since last summer because I needed more room than what my Civic sedan had, one child and another on the way, and hate the Pilot and the last-gen CR-V. Plus I have a relative that works at the local Honda dealer, so I got a discount.

    All told, I like the car I have. It rides great, has lots of power and I can haul my kid, her stroller, wife, and make a Costco run with no trouble.

    If anything could make the Crosstour better, would be possibly lowering it, as it sits too high. Plus lower profile tires.

    Better MPG would be nice too.

    • 0 avatar
      Ubermensch

      What you are asking for is an Accord wagon which is what Honda should have made.

      • 0 avatar
        PenguinBoy

        +1

        Make a modern version of the ’92 Accord EX-R Wagon with SH AWD and a 6MT, and I’ll buy one to replace my Legacy. While the market for AWD / MT station wagons can’t be very big, it’s got to be bigger than the market for Crosstours…

      • 0 avatar
        B.C.

        +1. It’s not Aztek ugly (and nothing is, really) but the fact that Honda won’t give us a wagon because this exists is tragic.

    • 0 avatar
      Volt 230

      Funny you should write that because the couple of Crosstour owners I’ve met just LOVE their cars. It gives exactly what they wanted and more!

      • 0 avatar
        sckid213

        Sounds like Aztek owners….

      • 0 avatar
        Speed Spaniel

        Of course they love it. Would anyone admit that they were stupid for purchasing such a blatant turd of an automobile? So they say how wonderful it is and suggest you will never know their little wonderful secret and what you’re missing when the real secret is their bad automotive taste (which really isn’t secret)…….

      • 0 avatar
        CJinSD

        Other than looks, what makes it a turd? It could be packaged more efficiently, but people can tell how big the luggage bay is before they buy it. There are plenty of people that admit they made mistakes when they bought cars, particularly cars that break or are obviously inferior to those driven by peers. I get calls from people that have had cars for less than a year that are looking to have me endorse the next piece of garbage they have already picked out after not paying attention to my advice the last time.

        I don’t like the way the Crosstour looks, but I don’t like the way any car with a blunt nose and awkward proportions compromised in the name of styling fads look. That would be the majority of cars at the moment. At least the Crosstour is fundamentally an Accord.

      • 0 avatar
        Speed Spaniel

        “Other than looks, what makes it a turd?”

        Predigested auto parts from the Accord warehouse where all the archaic engines, transmissions, cheap plastic interior door handles and subpar stereos are kept. That warehouse should hold what the Toyota Venza warehouse holds i.e.: push button starts, xenon headlights, JBL stereos and panoramic moonroofs. Personally I don’t care about those things, but further evidence illustrating how complacent Honda is about being competitive. It’s sad and frustrating to see a company settle for mediocrity when they were once at the top of the food chain. I wish I could run that company and take a shot at returning them to greatness because no one else is.

    • 0 avatar
      APaGttH

      You are aware of this car company called Toyota right? They sell this product called a Venza, and they even put cash on the hood.

      Just wanted to make you aware that not just Honda made cars.

  • avatar
    jaje

    Design and redesign by committee doesn’t work. Never has, never will – you’d figure the “brains” at Honda would realize this these past 10 years.

  • avatar
    omer333

    Like I said, I don’t think it’s a bad car. I took it up into the hills between Santa Maria and Sacramento after Christmas, and it was a joy.

    If I remember correctly, even TTAC and Grassroots Motorsports were giving the Crosstour some love.

    Those reviews were what nailed it for me to get the one I have.

    Would I have liked a more traditional wagon? Yes, but I wasn’t thinking of the future when Legacy GT Wagons and Mazda 6 Wagons were up for grabs with rebates and incentives out the wazoo, I was hot to trot for an S197 Mustang (2005-2009).

    • 0 avatar
      kvndoom

      I don’t think it’s a bad car, just a bad *looking* car. It hasn’t warmed up to many folks and I doubt this mild refresh will stop the continuous sales decline. Time will tell I suppose.

  • avatar
    kvndoom

    Honda needs to put money into giving the CRZ a proper engine. I think that car could be saved yet with the Si’s K24 or (gasp) turbo. I know they promised a turbo version, but I want to see the metal. The CT cannot be saved.

  • avatar
    Slow_Joe_Crow

    I saw one at Costco yesterday, with two co-workers;the Nissan Leaf owner scoffed at the EPA mileage numbers (so did I) and the Honda Pilot owner got a laugh when we realized it was the same size and cost, but without the third row seat and the trailer hitch for his camper. Now if it was a low slung sporty fastback like the old Mazda 626 or Sterling 827 I might see a point but as a jacked up pseudo crossover it makes no sense at all.

    • 0 avatar
      APaGttH

      Back in the 80′s I adored the 626 5-door. I loved the idea of four doors plus a practical hatch that I could a turbo motor in and a 5-speed manual and outrun a lot of cars on the road.

      • 0 avatar
        geozinger

        Back in the 80′s there were lots of midsize hatchbacks. Along with the 626 hatch, there was the Camry hatch (1st gen only), the Chevy Corsica hatch and still my favorite car from that era, Dodge Lancer Turbo ES. (I think I may be forgetting one or two other cars, though.)

        Fundamentally, there’s a lot of similarities between those 80′s mid size hatches, oddball SUVs like the Aztek/Rendezvous and the Crosstour. It’s a certain size car with the ability to take in far more cargo than it’s sedan brethren. All while looking like something else. Especially the Aztek. I know, I had a couple.

        The odd thing is, I actually agree with CJ, at it’s core, this is just an Accord with unfortunate styling. The basics of the car remain unchanged, and if you like an Accord, you’d probably like this car. I have a reputation among family and friends for liking ‘ugly’ cars and this one does appeal to me.

      • 0 avatar
        Marko

        One similarly sized “lift back” that still exists is the Scion tC. Too bad it’s three-door only; I think they would have a (moderate) hit with a five-door.

  • avatar
    Zackman

    Well…SOME will buy it…but not me. A huge car disguised as a sport wagon with little extra room than an Accord to recommend it. CR-V or Pilot is the way to go, depending on how much you want to spend to feed it. CR-V for me, if I wanted something like this, but probably would take a GMC Terrain over a Pilot any day.

  • avatar
    JaySeis

    The offspring of a Subaru and a GLK.

  • avatar
    ttacgreg

    On a positive note this looks so much better than the now outgoing CRV with the whacky two in one upper and lower grilles. UGH
    This also looks way better than that new Accura RLX concept that appeared on this site today with its beaver buck tooth grill and modified Mazda front haunches.
    Honda really has lost its ways in its embrace of the mainstream.

  • avatar

    The pilot, Insight, the new Civic the Accord, all look ugly, or, not very good.
    There must be a reason why Honda is the only brand that did not gain this March.
    The Accord used to be on top of it’s segment, not anymore for a long time, even the Altima at it’s last year of current design is doing so much better, I think people stopped buying cars based on brand only, look at Corrola, not a champ anymore.

  • avatar
    gslippy

    The Crosstour looks better in person than in photos.

    However, Honda continues to prove they’ve lost their way, with US sales now trailing Hyundai. This beast is still ugly, expensive, and equipped like a 2005 car.

    Even sub-compact cars are getting 6-speed ATs these days. A Genesis Coupe has an 8-speed, for crying out loud.

    • 0 avatar
      suedenim

      The Hyundai Genesis Coupe is not a small car, though. Only 200 or so pounda lighter than the Accord Coupe, I believe, though I don’t have the figures handy.

      Frankly, I’ve never understood the entire concept of the “crossover” car, or why anyone would want such a worst-of-all-worlds vehicle.

      As for the Crosstour, I was stunned when I found my 2009 Honda Accord Coupe parked next to one of the first models in a parking lot. As noted, the Accord Coupe is not a small car, but the Crosstour looked enormous next to it. Like it was a mutated Accord, but not in a beneficial way like Wolverine or Cyclops, but like one of those mutants who live in the sewers.

  • avatar
    namstrap

    I can’t believe that a company that’s turned out some real beauties in the past has produced this one. I’ve seen them in the flesh, and I just can’t believe how hideous they are. (In my opinion).

  • avatar
    Maxseven

    I’m convinced. Honda’s entire design team has gone mental. Does anyone have first-hand knowledge of what happened to them? Some sort of mind control experiment gone bad?

  • avatar
    Sgt Beavis

    It isn’t easy to cross that line from just plain ugly to spectacularly FUGLY.

    But I’ll be damn, those Honda designers actually managed to pull it off. Now that takes some really skill…

  • avatar
    Roberto Esponja

    Why, oh why, were car companies able to completely change exterior designs on a yearly basis fifty years ago, and nowadays if they come out with a turkey of a design they stick with it for years? Can someone explain to me the logic of it?

    • 0 avatar
      Dan

      Because exterior design isn’t just a stamped shell with 1/4 inch tolerances any more.

      Because changing anything structural might interfere with the true purpose of a car, which is to crash into brick walls at 35 mph, and so means months of paperwork and millions of dollars in federal recertification.

      Because the industry is more than GM competing with itself and doesn’t have the profit margin to tool up and throw it away at the end of the year.

      That being the case, if you only get redesign you’d better do it right and Honda didn’t. As usual.

      • 0 avatar
        dtremit

        All true, but if you think about it, there are still more new models every year than there were 50 years ago. Prior to about 1960, each brand had one model, more or less. Different body styles, sure, but mechanicals and major styling elements like grilles and rear treatments were shared.

        In 1959, Ford had two passenger models: the Ford, in its umpteen trims, and the Thunderbird. Today, there’s Fiesta, Focus, Fusion, Taurus, Mustang, Escape, Edge, Explorer, Flex, and Expedition. If each of those is restyled every four years, you’re talking 2.5 new car launches a year, versus one in the “good old days.”

  • avatar
    Ryoku75

    Its an AMC Eagle with an Elements nose.

  • avatar
    Philosophil

    I still like it. In some ways it reminds me of the old AMC Eagles from years ago (and I liked those as well).

  • avatar
    Zykotec

    If it looks good enough for Hyundai to copy the design for the Santa Fe, I guess it’s good enough :P

  • avatar
    hifi

    In the past year, I’ve seen more Lamborghinis on the road than the Crosstour. They can’t possibly be selling well anywhere. What the hell is Honda trying to do?

    • 0 avatar

      I saw more Crosstours than Lambos or Ferraris. That’s because I saw only 1 Lambo (coincidentially near a dentist’s office) and no Ferraris. I suppose not living in a blue coastal enclave has something to do with it.

  • avatar
    Junebug

    I think we may be in the middle of some sort of “back to the past” cycle. OK, before you think I’ve lost it, consider this: in the late 1960′s, you had mostly RWD cars that came in 2 door sporty, 4 door family, and wagons, all with either auto’s or manual gear boxes. What do most of ya’ll want to see now……..funny huh, now let’s look at pick-up trucks. Now, they’re too big, mostly 4 door sedans on stilts and cost more than my first house. How did my two uncles manage to farm using F100′s back in the day? Amazing huh.
    Why is there cross dressing concepts anyway, jack of all trades and suck at most? Build adamn station wagon and be done with it.

  • avatar
    ponchoman49

    So now we have 2005 technology for 2013 wrapped up in the same hideous exterior styling as before. Is Honda in serious denial?

  • avatar
    chawx

    I bought my 2012 Crosstour (V6/4WD) in January this year and I don’t regret it at all. I took a good long look at the ’12 Venza before I got the Xtour because most reviews were saying it was better overall than the Xtour. But, when I got in the Venza, I felt like I was in a tin can. I’m not a big guy by any means, average actually, but as I walked around the car, feeling it’s lines and checking out the exterior, it felt like I could grab the front bumper of the Venza and tear it right off.

    The interior wasn’t anything special to me in the Venza either. A lot of people liked it over the Xtour because the Xtour’s seems a little too complicated to figure out at first glance. I beg to differ, I found it just as easy to figure out as any other cars center stack.

    But what really sold me on the Xtour was the quality that Honda has when it made the Xtour. The second I sat in the car I felt safe and right at home. The leather seats hugged my medium frame well and the doors, along with everything else surrounding me, felt like it was right where it should be. Yes, the Venza was cheaper cost-wise, but you definitely get what you pay for, cheapness galore.

    People like the Venza’s look more, but to me, it gets lost in the sea of cars that drive around our roads everyday. When you see a Xtour, you really SEE it.

    So, say what you will about the exterior look, as you all mostly have, but I love the look of it. The lines are all very nice and they make sense. I have the optional side body molding that adds another nice line to the car, as well as protect it from shopping carts and galoots who swing their doors open at full force while parked next to you.

    In the 6 months I’ve owned the car, I’ve been on a few mini-road trips (100-300 mile drives) and I have averaged 25-26mpg going at a steady 85-90 mph (95% of the time with the ECO light on—it will turn off though at 90+ no matter how light I am with the gas) mostly though, I drive it in the city, where I average about 18.5mpg — overall—through 3900 miles I’ve averaged 19.3 mpg exactly. Not bad for how liberal I am with displaying the 271+ ponies around town (I’ve done some minor tweaks-K&N filter among those-to slightly boost it’s output above normal). My friend drives a Venza and although he has the lead through the first 15 feet, sometimes, I never end up behind him when we both give the gas a good kick to the floor (unless he’s too slow to see the cop up ahead…lol).

    Anyway, I think I’ve said my piece. Hate it all you want, I like the exclusiveness I feel when driving my Xtour. I like the looks it gets when I drive by people (more good than bad it seems to me). People who I work with, that I’ve driven to lunch, admire it.

    But hey, I’ll be the first to admit, I didn’t get it for it’s looks… I got it for it’s quality, efficiency, and versatility. I wish mine had the 6-speed, to me, that would have made it the near perfect car. But, I’ll have to make due with the 5-speed, oh well, that’s really my only gripe with the car.

  • avatar
    phxmotor

    In 5 years I’ll buy one. Too expensive now. If I’m going to stick with the hobby started when I was 15 I just goota wait. But with the Crosstour Im tempted to violate my used car policy. My hobby since even before I had the legal right to drive, has always been to get the best 8-10 year old car made… but only if it has something wrong with it. In this case I’m hoping it’ll only be bad brakes or a failed a/c compressor. The Honda v6 has proven bulletproof and if the transmissions seem to be holdng up then I’ll take the plunge once these are down under 8-10k. The reason? Well lets see… my wife and I live in the deep snow, we drive only Outbacks and v8 Explorers… all we want is reliability and a car that never gets stuck. We run a resort in the high Sierras of central Calif and when it snow the people back east just don’t get it. When it snows here it snows. 623 inches season before last. Anyway… the Ouback is great (bought it for 1500 and threw a used engine in it one afternoon… runs like a top… Havent put a nickel into it since. OKOK some brakes and oil. The Explorer we bought to pull a utility trailer for appliance and bld mtl runs to town (31 miles to the nearest village… 84 miles to the nearest real town. Anyway I’m embarased about the Explorer… nothing was wrong with it and nothing has gone wrong in 3 years. I strayed from my hobby only because it was so stupidly cheap (113k miles and 3200 dollars…Eddie Bauer top of the line and everything was perfect)My wife figured why bother with saving a few bucks? I had to reluctantly agree. Its a reall tool as is the Outback.

    I love it (hate it) when Bay Area visitors-guests get their 65k BMW and Lexus AWDs stuck… and our old workhorses drag them right out. Anyway… the Crosstour is soooo striking that it has caught my wife’s fancy. It doesn’t have the best look in the world, but it is truely striking. I maybe am not going to describe it properly but the nitwits who want to see it lowered and equipped with low profile tires seem to be missing the point… this vehicle is deemed to be a useful tool.It’s not supposed to be a fashion statement. Its not a Palm Springs toy. It seems more like a Legacy on steroids to me and I can’t wait for them to loose value as a function of time. If high milage ones are holding up in 10 years, Ill find a low milage one and take it from there. Just hope I can find one whos owner has been suckered into thinking he has a costly issue about a brake master cylinder or bad brake booster. If hes got a Phd after his name I’ll have it made. This tactic has paid off for years, hope it works again.
    The joke is that I work for a univ and have had various research gigs around the country (advanced hybrid design), and its always happy hunting grounds for me in such environments. I feel sorry for fools-morons-idiots-suckers-naive neophites….sorry I can’t help myself… who are proud of their ability to buy new cars yet are taken for a ride every…and I mean every… time they get in front of a guy with his name embroydered onto his shirt. Its a shame cliknclak are gone, they were such a great way to feel superior every saturday morning. Oh well, all good things must pass.Back to the Crosstour… thx for all the comments here. It is nice to see such heartfelt comments about the fine details about styling and interior appointments. Its funny to see what a lot of earnest people feel is important about their cars.Heck… the only thing striking about the Crosstour to me is that it really does seem lkie a Legacy on steroids. If it holds up to serious snow driving, thats all I really want. Plus that dang muscle stance. It’ll be fun. I’m sure I’ll be seeing one or two of you in a few years. Hope your brake booster blows right when my wife decides which color she likes.


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