Do GM's Lease Offers Signal Return To Bad Habits?

Edward Niedermeyer
by Edward Niedermeyer

Bloomberg seems to think GM is heading back towards bad habits, reporting

General Motors Co. is offering to waive the last three payments on existing leases if holders buy a new car, adding an incentive onto deals that last month exceeded offers made by rivals.

The promotion began this month and is valid on most models with leases that expire between now and Aug. 31, according to the company. GM raised incentive spending in January by 16 percent to an average of $3,663 per vehicle, the highest among major carmakers, according to researcher Autodata Corp. GM sales outpaced the industry that month.

GM said in a video presentation for its initial public offering in November that it intended to offer fewer incentives that crimped margins and created an impression that price was the main selling point for GM vehicles. Early-return leasing deals may conflict with the that pledge, said Jessica Caldwell, an analyst at Edmunds.com.

“I hope they’re not walking down that road,” said Caldwell….

Given GM’s decision to release less incentives data, the signs do seem to be piling up. But, says Chevy marketing VP Rick Scheidt

I am not seeing any internal behavior that suggests we have gone back to old ways. It’s still way too close to the bankruptcy for us to be sliding back into bad habits. We know everybody’s watching.

Another perspective on GM’s move towards subprime lease deals comes from Automotive News [sub]’s Donna Harris, who writes

The credit crisis and recession expanded the subprime segment. Some of these “new” subprime customers walked away from their mortgages when their property values plunged. Under normal circumstances, they would pay their bills on time.

A lease can coax these people back into the new-vehicle market at affordable terms while helping GM move some metal.

Vehicles are typically leased at shorter terms than finance contracts — often three to four years, as opposed to five years or more for a car loan. So the customer will be back for a new vehicle quicker.

And the subprime lease can improve customer loyalty: Research has shown that customers are extremely loyal to businesses that help restore their credit. Lease renewal rates also are typically much higher than repurchase rates.

All of which makes a certain amount of sense… if risk is being managed well. Given the post-bailout concern over moral hazard, however, it’s hard to just sit back and trust that these leases aren’t simply re-inflating a subprime bubble that will necessarily pop again. Meanwhile, concerns about the larger market aside, GM is running yet another risk with its lease deal: it’s offering cheap terms on its latest vehicles ( including Equinox, Cruze, and Traverse) potentially eroding gains in resale values, brand equity and average transaction prices.

It seems that Hyundai’s John Krafcik may well be right… it is beginning to look like GM is pushing the industry into a price war.

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  • Doctor olds Doctor olds on Feb 15, 2011

    oboylepr- And just what is your claim to fame? You guys have been practicing this mutual masturbation thing for so long, you don't recognize the truth when you read it. Buickman started right out with personal attacks and self congratulation, "The best salesman in the history of the world!" "I forgot more than you will ever know." He is just a car salesman, one of many thousands. He has no inside track. Why do you put so much stock in what he says. You can be sure, if he was as successful as he claims, he would not be so ill informed and presumptously egotistical. I think you are the pot calling the kettle black in your criticism of mikey. At least he knows GM from the inside, unlike you and your beloved hero. And just what is your claim to fame? Are you just another guy that drives a car and is pissed off about paying for a repair, therefore becoming an expert on the industry. Is that your qualification to know Buickman is so brilliant in his analysis?

  • Doctor olds Doctor olds on Feb 15, 2011

    @mikey- I was not high on the totem pole, just a Senior Engineer, but I had jobs that required me to regularly call meetings to present issues and analysis to VP's and Executive VP's. I also have had a passion for the business for well over my 40 years with GM. I agree with your idea that GM has a long way to go. There is plenty of room for improvement. There is also plenty of blame to go around. I never mean to say that they have been or are perfect. Far from it. I have met and worked for my share of a-holes and seen more than one dysfunctional thing happen. They made horrendous mistakes. I once had the daunting assignment from the Council of Engineering Vice Presidents to determine why we had recalls and what to do to stop them. Believe me, I know more than most that there are no easy answers. What I find particularly irritating is the presumption of so many who have never had any responsibility to actually run the business. Sideline chatterers, I call them. They spout presumptuous ideas that are so obviously wrong, it is maddening to behold.

    • Edward Niedermeyer Edward Niedermeyer on Feb 15, 2011

      doctor olds: Perhaps you should consider getting your own blog if you don't like this one. If you do want to engage in the discussion here at TTAC, you need to stop attacking commenters. Feel free to share your perspective, but dismissing every dissenting opinion as "sideline chatter" is not how the game is played around here. Further attacks on commenters will earn you the banhammer.

      With that, I'm closing comments for this thread. This "debate" isn't going anywhere at this point, and it's getting nasty. Don't worry though... I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunities to discuss GM in the future.

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