New or Used: Not That You Would, or Should...but You Totally Could.

Sajeev Mehta and Steve Lang
by Sajeev Mehta and Steve Lang

Peter, a repeat customer, writes:

My last question was certainly well-answered and I thank you for that! Problem is I have another because my situation has changed totally! And this one is kind of urgent.

My wife and I need to relocate to California by March. We’re going to drive my RAV4 appliance across the country with our dog. Problem is, we still have that darn Corolla. Money’s really tight now. We’re looking at quotes of 800-1200 dollars to ship her car out there. I’ve now got three choices:

1. Drive her 95,000 Mile Corolla to Anaheim from VA. It needs about 200 bucks worth of work prior to driving it out there: tires are 1 year old, but it might need shocks, the 100K service and it has some body damage for sure. It’s really, really good on gas so I’m not so worried about that cost (probably another 200). We’d need to drive in 2 different cars. Our ability to take turns driving or be next to each other during this great trip would be compromised. Plus, I may need to get earplugs with the roar and wind noise of the Corolla: it is really loud on the highway.

2. Pony up the 1000 bucks to ship it. I don’t know if any damage will come to it, but it already has some body damage to the bumper and rear door.

3. Sell it. I bet I can get 4K for it. Not sure about that. My wife owes 2 on it. I can use that 2 grand as a down payment on a lease or something else entirely. We’d sell it here, and lease a Civic or something out there. She’s almost got the car paid off though.

I can’t decide. I would love some blunt help from the B&B.

Steve Answers:

So let’s see. You will spend less money. Have more fun. Get to see the country. Plus potentially have another keeper for the next 10 years. OR….

You can have $2000 in your pocket temporarily; have one car, then blow a good wad of that on another debtful decision with a negative return.

I know you are going to keep the car because otherwise I would have to hire Robert Farago to hunt you down. One option you may have is to tow the Corolla with the RAV4. But I don’t know whether your particular model can accommodate this since I don’t know it’s model year or features. I would either tow it or drive it.

One other side note: California and the entire West Coast has used car prices that are completely detached from the rest of the USA. They are sky high. So high that we non-natives had a saying at the dealer auctions, “they brought ‘balls’.” I wouldn’t be surprised if your Corolla brought $1500 more on the West Coast than in Virginia. I would still keep the Corolla for the long haul. But if you wanted to blow your money on another vehicle driving it cross country would still be the way to go.

Sajeev Answers:

As we discussed via email, Option 1 is my only recommendation. This is the easiest/least stressful way to deal with owning a second car while moving across the country. And, as my partner in crime made crystal clear, your Corolla will be very valuable in California’s used car market. I choose the path of least resistance; it’ll probably be the best for your stress level and your wallet.

I know you and your wife woulda enjoyed that trip in the same cabin, but consider this: if you screw up and really piss her off before you hit the road, you have your own isolation chamber! Not that you would, or should…but you totally could.

Need help with a car buying conundrum? Email your particulars to mehta@ttac.com, and let TTAC’s collective wisdom make the decision easier… or possibly much, much harder.


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  • Paul_y Paul_y on Jan 12, 2011

    Having driven across the country relatively recently (moved from Buffalo, NY to northern central valley CA in September), I can say that a few pairs of cheap foam ear plugs from home depot and $250 in gas will get that corolla across the country. Making sure it's safe and reliable enough to do so are paramount, but it's cheaper than shipping. ...and I drove my 04 xB across the country for under $250 in gas. The flyover states and their absurd speed limits were brutal on my fuel consumption (I was down to 32mpg at one point!). However, it was an excellent way to see the country, albeit in a hurry.

  • Joe_thousandaire Joe_thousandaire on Jan 12, 2011

    Life is much too short to spend any amount of it in a Corolla. One appliance vehicle per household is understandable, but sir, you have two. You clearly must sell the Corolla. But you are absolutely correct in that you will find more value in the vehicle in Cali - so many pensioners and soul-starved cubicle commuters. Gonna be a long trip though, good luck!

  • Joe65688619 Under Ghosn they went through the same short-term bottom-line thinking that GM did in the 80s/90s, and they have not recovered say, to their heyday in the 50s and 60s in terms of market share and innovation. Poor design decisions (a CVT in their front-wheel drive "4-Door Sports Car", model overlap in a poorly performing segment (they never needed the Altima AND the Maxima...what they needed was one vehicle with different drivetrain, including hybrid, to compete with the Accord/Camry, and decontenting their vehicles: My 2012 QX56 (I know, not a Nissan, but the same holds for the Armada) had power rear windows in the cargo area that could vent, a glass hatch on the back door that could be opened separate from the whole liftgate (in such a tall vehicle, kinda essential if you have it in a garage and want to load the trunk without having to open the garage door to make room for the lift gate), a nice driver's side folding armrest, and a few other quality-of-life details absent from my 2018 QX80. In a competitive market this attention to detai is can be the differentiator that sell cars. Now they are caught in the middle of the market, competing more with Hyundai and Kia and selling discounted vehicles near the same price points, but losing money on them. They invested also invested a lot in niche platforms. The Leaf was one of the first full EVs, but never really evolved. They misjudged the market - luxury EVs are selling, small budget models not so much. Variable compression engines offering little in terms of real-world power or tech, let a lot of complexity that is leading to higher failure rates. Aside from the Z and GT-R (low volume models), not much forced induction (whether your a fan or not, look at what Honda did with the CR-V and Acura RDX - same chassis, slap a turbo on it, make it nicer inside, and now you can sell it as a semi-premium brand with higher markup). That said, I do believe they retain the technical and engineering capability to do far better. About time management realized they need to make smarter investments and understand their markets better.
  • Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Off-road fluff on vehicles that should not be off road needs to die.
  • Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Saw this posted on social media; “Just bought a 2023 Tundra with the 14" screen. Let my son borrow it for the afternoon, he connected his phone to listen to his iTunes.The next day my insurance company raised my rates and added my son to my policy. The email said that a private company showed that my son drove the vehicle. He already had his own vehicle that he was insuring.My insurance company demanded he give all his insurance info and some private info for proof. He declined for privacy reasons and my insurance cancelled my policy.These new vehicles with their tech are on condition that we give up our privacy to enter their world. It's not worth it people.”
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  • Keith Most of the stanced VAGS with roof racks are nuisance drivers in my area. Very likely this one's been driven hard. And that silly roof rack is extra $'s, likely at full retail lol. Reminds me of the guys back in the late 20th century would put in their ads that the installed aftermarket stereo would be a negotiated extra. Were they going to go find and reinstall that old Delco if you didn't want the Kraco/Jenson set up they hacked in?
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