By on March 24, 2015

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With the arrival of the Jeep Renegade, the Compass and Patriot twins – awkwardly slotted above the Renegade in size, but lower in price – are officially overdue for a replacement. The Jeep twins have more in common with the Dodge Caliber than anything else in the brand’s lineup, and will be replaced with a single, all-new model.

Reports in auto media out of the United Kingdom have talked up the replacement CUV and how it will be positioned against the Nissan Qashqai. Nissan’s CUV, which has been wildly popular in Europe (some even credit it for kicking off the CUV trend on the continent, and rescuing Nissan from irrelevance in that market) has never been sold here, largely because the Rogue made it redundant.

At nearly a foot shorter than the current Rogue, the Qashqai would be awkwardly positioned between the Juke and the Rogue. But in Europe, it’s just right, nestled between those two vehicles in a market where a smaller footprint is actively desired. Since the Qashqai is about the size of a Compass or a Patriot, give or take an inch or two in each dimension, the new CUV will stay close in size to the current Jeep twins. Our Rogue, known as the X-Trail, is considered to be a full size larger, and comes with three row seating. Meanwhile, the Qashqai and its upcoming rival are considered to be the standard size CUV, the same way American buyers consider the Rogue and Cherokee to be an acceptable size.

There will also be a Fiat variant, similar to the shared platform of the Jeep Renegade and Fiat 500X. Expect a Trail Rated model to accompany the rest of the lineup, which will likely be similar to the rest of the Jeep models, with several trim variants increasing in content and price point. For Jeep, this will be a crucial product. Roughly three quarters of Jeep sales originate in North America, and FCA is keen to increase the brand’s reach in world markets. Currently, the EU makes up about 8 percent of Jeep sales – the replacement for the Compass/CUV will be just as important as the Renegade – and probably more important than the Cherokee – at increasing that figure.

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36 Comments on “Nissan Qashqai Points The Way For Next Jeep Compass, Patriot...”


  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    I had always thought before that the Comp/Patriot were just going away, as the Renegade was the replacement for both of their ancient carcasses. I’m not sure they need another model, there’s not much space as is between the Renegade and the Cherokee.

    Also, I hate it when people Instagram car photos, that picture makes my eyes hurt. Too much shine, too much filter and focus.

    • 0 avatar
      Lie2me

      I agree, I’m having a hard time seeing where another CUV will fit between the Renegade/Cherokee/Grand Cherokee. I can’t help but think that anything else in the segment would be redundant

      • 0 avatar
        Drzhivago138

        Agreed. The Renegade is a subcompact, that’s simple enough for me to understand, and the Cherokee is a modern compact–that is to say, larger in every dimension than compact CUVs were when they started in the late ’90s. The current Patriot/Compass is the size of those old-school compacts like a first-gen CR-V or Escape. But is that really a segment that needs to go on living? Part of me says no, if only because it would be a repeat of when Ford in the ’70s had 5 different cars in 4 different segments (Granada was both a compact and a midsize, depending on who and when you asked).

        • 0 avatar
          Lie2me

          Another CUV in this segment will just cause confusion like the current Patriot/Compass does. No one has ever figured out what those two were aiming at

          • 0 avatar

            Before introduction, DaimlerChrysler researched the two designs…the better-testing one would be their new Jeep.

            The Compass tested well with females. The Patriot tested well with men.

            So I began calling Compass “the chick Jeep” and Patriot became “the guy Jeep”.

            SMH even back then…just pick one and go with it. Can’t believe it went ten years…and three different owners…

            …oh, wait a minute.

            The newest owners are the bozos who decided Dodge and Ram needed to be two separate marques. Nevermind…

          • 0 avatar
            Lie2me

            I call both, “Geek Jeeps”

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            “The newest owners are the bozos who decided Dodge and Ram needed to be two separate marques. Nevermind…”

            I agree with you but I personally think this was done to split off the truck division in the event of a Chrysler liquidation (where Chrysler/Dodge went away and Jeep/Ram are sold and gov’t recouped its losses).

          • 0 avatar

            It has two uses:

            1) a CUV to play at the lower price point (Rogue Select, Outlander Sport, Tucson) leaving the Cherokee to play at the higher end.

            2) In the world markets, this will be as important as the Cherokee is to the USA

          • 0 avatar
            Lie2me

            So, a decontented Cherokee? Ok, probably shouldn’t even sell it in North America, which may be the plan

          • 0 avatar
            clivesl

            There is $5000 dollar gap in pricing between the base Renegade and the base Cherokee. So there is pricing room for another segment.

      • 0 avatar
        Sgt Beavis

        The only thing that would make sense is if the went with something larger than Grand Cherokee.. but it would have to NOT suck like the Commander did.

    • 0 avatar
      Vulpine

      One way we could look at it is that the Renegade is replacing the Compass while this new CUV, whatever they call it, replaces the Patriot. There is enough size differential between Renegade and Cherokee that they *could* fit something in between, but i also agree that it seems unnecessarily redundant.

  • avatar
    wmba

    The Nissan Qashqai is just a shorter version of the new Rogue with a supposedly higher quality interior and of course a diesel. Plus over in Blighty they claim they designed the Qashqai (and the Juke), a major laugh and a silly puff of pride, but good for insular types who assume Nissan wouldn’t make the same basic thing anywhere else in even greater quantities.

    So it’s just another of the compact CUVs, which is what FCA needs to replace the Journey, Compass and Patriot, all decrepit vehicles. FCA falsely claims in TV ads that the Journey is the best-selling CUV in Canada – apparently GoodCarBadCar.net hasn’t been discovered by FCA Canada.

    Stick in the 2.4 TigerWimp engine and leave off the usual blather about off-road ability to distinguish the new one from the “real” Jeep Cherokee and Renegade. Add 7 bar grilles, make marketing claims about strength and genes and voila! Sales.

  • avatar
    udman

    What I took from this bit of news is the fact that FCA is going to build another Crossover, but probably not in North America. Just like the Renegade, the replacement for the Patriot/Compass will most likely be built in another Fiat Assembly Plant, most likely in Europe.

    You see, FCA can’t keep up with the demand for the Cherokee here in North America, so sales in Europe and Asia will need to come from another location. They could produce the new model at the Belvidere Production Facility that currently makes the Compass and Patriot, and also produces the rather lackluster selling Dart. If the new Jeep is selected to be built here… I smell Sergio vying for some incentives to modernize the plant…

    • 0 avatar
      Lie2me

      Yeah, that poor Belvidere plant really gets stuck making some duds. I have to drive by it on occasion and it always seems pretty quiet

      • 0 avatar
        WildcatMatt

        Belvidere seems to be feast or famine. I grew up in that area and my gauge for how they were doing was looking at how many weeds were growing on the lot on the north side of US 20. No weeds meant they were doing well, a sea of dandelions meant trouble.

  • avatar
    clivesl

    They could go the Patriot/Compass route with this too. Slap some butch sheetmetal on the new one that makes it look like an old Cherokee, add some suspension bits that buyers will never use…Boom! your new 2017 man Jeep for $19995

  • avatar

    The Patriot and Compass serve an important role in CDJR showrooms in that they get people into new SUVs who otherwise couldn’t afford them. But they’re mediocre in most ways and subpar in others, and they do little to help the brand’s public perception. Again, most people who’d be excited about them—and I say this in the nicest way—would simply be glad that they could afford a new SUV. But putting those customers in a crossover that is smaller, but more modern exciting, may be the way to go.

  • avatar
    eggsalad

    I like the look of the Patriot. But as you say, it’s a Caliber underneath and, um, no.

    • 0 avatar
      CB1000R

      I always did, too. I guess I regarded it as a compact wagon dog hauler more than an suv, and the boxiness to me was quite welcome given the squished-aero rears of every other wagon; et tu, Volvo? Never sat in one. Cheap/nasty interior? Reliability? 100000-Mile mandatory head gasket replacement?

  • avatar
    kvndoom

    It’s brown! And you can buy it with a diesel and a stick! I’m moving to Europe!!!

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    So then I wonder what engine/transmission/transfer case choices? Better keep the almost 9 in of ground clearance the Patriot has.

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    I test-drove a Renegade this past weekend, and was let down. As with the Dart, I eagerly awaited the Renegade, only to have my hopes dashed when I finally drove it.

    The interior was smaller than I expected – even though I’m 6’6″ – and the back seat was very tight. What they give in headroom (good) is lost in legroom and shoulder room (bad).

    The 2.4 engine is rough, especially at idle. There is no reason a modern engine should shake like that. It might be at home in a Jeep, but it’s a very poor choice for the 500X. It’s also loud.

    The 9-speed transmission shifted abruptly – some might call it crisp – but even at speeds up to 50 mph it only got into 6th gear. The shift speeds didn’t seem to be spaced evenly, either – weird.

    I also experienced something I haven’t in a very long time – torque steer. This was a FWD Renegade, but the front end was very darty (pun intended) upon acceleration. I couldn’t believe it.

    Fit and finish were fair. This was a red car, but I noticed the frame rail by the engine was pink – as though the robot hadn’t applied enough paint there.

    So if FCA intends to produce a next-gen Compass/Patriot, I hope they upgrade the drivetrain and quality control beyond what I experienced in the Renegade.

    • 0 avatar
      highdesertcat

      Interesting! All the Renegade fans should read your review. I’ve never driven one, but know someone who was interested in a tiny AWD Jeep, exactly like the Renegade, at a price under $20K (or thereabouts).

      • 0 avatar
        Lie2me

        I did just read it and am somewhat surprised. This is the first negative I’ve read

        • 0 avatar
          See 7 up

          I think it may be expectations based.
          Should I be coming from an old clapped out whatever, the Renegade may be nice.
          Should I be coming from say a $30k car that is 5 years old and just looking for something different, I may be disappointed.

          I do find the interior room expectations strange, given the Cherokee is not what I’d call really “roomy”. This is the same interior design language in a smaller package.

          • 0 avatar
            SCE to AUX

            I’m coming from a Leaf, whose drivetrain smoothness can’t be beat – so yes.

            As for interior room, I agree that the Cherokee isn’t ‘large’. Having sat in one a couple of times, I was shocked at how small they are inside.

            As a Kia partisan, a strong contender for my next car is a Sportage. Its interior is vastly better than the Renegade, and the space is used much more efficiently. I only wish the Sportage could get better fuel economy. A Rogue is also in the running, but I haven’t driven its CVT.

    • 0 avatar
      See 7 up

      CX-5.
      I know, I know – Mazda.
      But really, they are very nice. The dash layout fits my sense of interior design and they drive great. The base engine is slow, but it does get incredible mileage and is roomy inside. And it you like manuals, you don’t even have to worry about colors or options :)
      It would be a good one to test drive.

  • avatar
    Ron B.

    The qashqai (how do you say that? cash key? squashy? ) is a far higher quality machine than any jeep and going by what jeep owners tell me here,far more reliable. But the squashy is popular is in the UK because of this:
    [url]https://youtu.be/nypeGvQvg_4[/url]

    • 0 avatar
      Big Al from Oz

      @Ron B.
      I do have to agree with you in relation to the quality of the Qashqai.

      My uncle in France has one and it is the top of the line, with leather and all the toys one could wish for. The build quality is excellent.

      If the Jeeps we get are “export” quality then FCA really needs to improve quality if it wants to compete with a vehicle like the Qashqai.

      • 0 avatar
        MRF 95 T-Bird

        A few years ago I was in Corsica of all places and drove a friends Qashqai. I was impressed with it. I thought it was just another crossover. It’s basically a larger Rouge but a tad smaller than a Murano but with the off-road capability of a Pathfinder. It handled the rough roads quite well. IIRC it had a center locking differential.

    • 0 avatar
      Beemernator

      I have always pronounced it as “cash cow,” as it seems appropriate for its market positioning.

      • 0 avatar
        Big Al from Oz

        @Beemernator,
        I was having some beers the other day with some Brits and we were discussing the UK and EU. We of course talked cars as it seems a universal topic to talk to anyone about, like the weather.

        Anyway, I told them about the Qashqai my uncle in France has and the Brits apparently pronounce it Quaash key.

        In Australia they are sold under a different name, Dualis, pronounced with two syllables, Dew’alis.

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