By on September 28, 2014

2015 Infiniti Q40Infiniti’s G37 sedan continues to attract a meaningful amount of attention from entry-level luxury car buyers in the United States, long after it was replaced by the Q50.

It’s still a fast car. It may be the better driver’s car. And it’s the cheaper of the two, as well, with a base price (including destination and handling) of $33,855, $4200 below the price of the least costly Q50.

11,327 G sedans have been sold in the United States over the last eight months, almost precisely one G37 per two Q50s.

Infiniti has no plans, at least not for the very near future, to cancel the G37. They’re actually going so far as to give it a new name to fit in with Johan De Nysschen’s Q badging strategy. The G37 will become the Q40. De Nysschen now works for Cadillac, which now builds the Qescalade. No, really, they’ll actually build the CT6.

With the newer Q50 in showrooms, sales of the enduring predecessor have naturally fallen sharply in 2014. The 53% drop equals 12,939 fewer sales for the G. But total G Sedan/Q50 sales are up 29% to 34,449 units.

Even with the Q60 included, Infiniti’s 39,753 year-to-date non-Q70 car sales don’t measure up to Mercedes-Benz’s declining C-Class (43,885 units) or BMW’s 3-Series/4-Series tandem (81,631 units).

Yet in the second tier, where Lexus IS sales are up 77% to 33,427 units and total Audi A4 sales are down 4% to 26,310 and Cadillac ATS volume is down 20% to 20,296, Infiniti is at the top. More likely than not, the Q50 wouldn’t have the gusto to gain that position without the lingering G37, as we can’t assume all 11,327 G buyers would have spent the extra coin required to make the leap.

It would have been silly of us to discount the strength of the G too soon. In first-gen form, Infiniti’s smaller sports sedan – a long-awaited successor to the G20 we’re ignoring here – reignited the brand. Total Infiniti volume shot up to 136,401 units in 2005, a feat Infiniti hasn’t accomplished since, when the G family accounted for 50.4% of all Infiniti sales. With the G still assisting in 2014, Infiniti is on track to top 120,000 U.S. sales for the first time since 2007. (August results threw a wrench into that plan, as total Infiniti sales slid 23%.)

So far this year, despite being replaced, the G sedan is the brand’s third-best-selling model, more than 3000 sales ahead of the next-best-selling QX80, ahead of the Q60, QX70, Q70, and QX50, as well. G37 sales in August climbed above 1500 units for the fourth time in six months, and the G37 managed to outsell the Subaru WRX/STi, Scion FR-S, Mercedes-Benz CLS, Mitsubishi Lancer, Mazda 2, Honda Crosstour, BMW i3, Porsche 911, Scion xD, Volkswagen CC, and Lexus LS, among many others.

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53 Comments on “Infiniti G37 Keeps Hanging On With Real Sales Numbers...”


  • avatar
    kvndoom

    And why not? It’s a beautiful car. The G37 is on my automotive bucket list, in sedan AND coupe form.

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      I like the coupe although its quite small inside, but so is the sedan. Generally speaking, you’ll pay more for the coupe used or new but I think its the better of the two choices if you don’t require a trunk.

      • 0 avatar
        bd2

        The original G35C had the far better sheetmetal (before Infiniti started to add to many weird lines to their designs).

        Problem with the G35C was the low-rent interior (the G37C improved upon that, but lost the classic lines of G35C).

        The G used to outsell the IS by a good bit, but Infiniti has made the Q50 too complicated and expensive and Lexus made sure to increase the rear passenger space in the current IS – so now running about neck to neck (combining Q50/G sales).

  • avatar
    JD23

    I think this illustrates that the eight year old G37 looks even better in comparison with its more expensive, poorly regarded successor. I imagine that Infiniti sales will take a significant hit when the venerable G37 is retired.

  • avatar
    swester

    We had one of the first brand new 2003 G35’s in our area back in late 2002. It was a head-turning and conversation-starting car that I’ll never forget. I occasionally see those original models around and they still look fantastic.

    Why Infiniti felt the need to rebrand their entire lineup, including its only disruptive product in 25+ years of existence, under the Q designation is utterly incomprehensible to me. Long live the G3x family.

  • avatar
    Jeff Waingrow

    I never understood why the G37 didn’t simply evolve in the way that the A4 did. Am I mistaken in recalling that the G37 was always Consumer’s top pick in the sports category? The car was perhaps a bit rough around the edges, but it had good looks, lots of performance for the money, and the bonus of good reliability ratings. But I never had the feeling that Infiniti was especially well run. Same for Acura. The original Legend was an excellent car, but it didn’t lead anywhere. Maybe both divisions need to move to Soho.

    • 0 avatar
      carguy

      Agreed. What the G37 needed was an evolutionary improvement while keeping the focus on the driving dynamics. Instead the Q50 seems to be focused on its electronic gizmos while the driving experience seems to be secondary. Things are made worse by the option packages which make no sense what so ever.

    • 0 avatar
      Pch101

      Initially, the G was the equivalent of one of those GM “classic” models. They keep building the older model alongside the newer model for a year or two in order to amortize the costs, before discontinuing it.

      The initial difference here was that the new model got an entirely different nameplate, with the changeover to this (awful) Q naming convention.

      And now there is a second difference. As it turns out, it seems that Nissan has had a change of heart and has decided to keep a lower-cost model in the lineup. I would presume that this Infiniti’s way of responding to the Germans’ push downward (CLA, A3 and 2-series). This was not part of the original plan, but things change.

  • avatar

    I’m not surprised. I have four friends who’ve bought new G37’s this year, and they all said the reason they chose it was that they plain liked it better. That it’s cheaper was just icing on the cake.

    • 0 avatar
      vvk

      It is kind of like iPhone 5s in this regard. I like it better than 6 and it is also cheaper.

    • 0 avatar
      DeadWeight

      I have stated that the majority of the latest round of successor vehicles are worse in some, if not most, respects, than their predecessors.

      Whether the Q50 or other Infiniti(s?), Lexus LS460, MANY Acuras, BMWs, etc. peak quality and/or came and went between approx 1998 and 2006, depending on the manufacturer & model.

      • 0 avatar
        Pch101

        I already provided you with JD Power data that specifically contradicts that position. Problem rates have trended downward since the late 90s.

        There do seem to be some newfangled issues with a few specific areas, such as the electronics. Complaints about steering are surely due to the new electric steering units, which do not appear to be quite ready for primetime as far as road feel goes.

        But those sound like bumps in the road, the sorts of problems that will be remedied within a car generation or so (i.e. about five years or so, give or take.) On the whole, we are still benefit from more reliable cars generally.

        • 0 avatar
          DeadWeight

          First, I linked data in another essay establishing that problem rates on 4 cylinder motors and transmissions are TRENDING up in the last three model years (I’ll link it again if need be).

          Second, quality as I mention it doesn’t strictly refer to the number of problems (significant or otherwise) a vehicle experiences, but in the way the vehicle feels (solidity, interior quality, exterior quality) and drives (solidity, power, handling, comfort etc.).

          • 0 avatar
            Pch101

            You’re cherry picking factoids in order to “prove” a thesis that isn’t accurate.

            Compare 2001: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/EKaru/EKaru3/jdpower.gif

            to 2014: http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/2014-Vehicle-Dependability-Study-Press-Release.htm

            In 2001, the industry average was 382 problems per 100 vehicles. In 2014, it was 133.

            The leader in both years was Lexus. In 2001, Lexus had 173 problems per 1,000; in 2014, it was 68.

            You will note that those represent declines of about two-thirds. Those aren’t minor decreases, but significant improvements.

            If a 1998 Lexus (as listed on the 2001 VDS) was judged on the 2014 scale (compared to MY 2011), it would have been ranked toward the bottom.

            At the very bottom of the 2014 list was MINI, with 185 problems per 1,000. If a MINI from the 2014 list (which would be MY 2011) was sent back in a time machine to be judged in 2001 (compared to MY 1998 cars), it would have ranked in second place, just behind Lexus.

            That’s how much things have improved over thirteen years. A minor decline from last year still puts us way ahead of anything from the 90s.

      • 0 avatar
        Big Al from Oz

        @DeadWeight,
        I do agree with you regarding that the ‘quality’ gap between mainstream vehicles and the so called prestige marques is closing.

        I do think there are a couple of reason for this;

        1. Vehicle production processes and techniques have improved, ie, humans are more removed and robotics are used. This greatly improves quality.

        2. Better quality material employed in the vehicles themselves, ie, interiors, plastics, etc.

        3. CAD is vastly superior in allowing better outcomes and designs. Chassis and suspension design, reduced noise and vibrations, etc.

        4. The prestige marques are moving down market slightly as well to cash in as the ‘mainstream’ vehicles improve.

        5. Just look at the quality improvement of US manufactured vehicles over the past decade. Go back 20 years and the Chinese produce better quality vehicles now than what the US did back then.

        I see improving ‘mainstream’ vehicle for the foreseeable future. This will place pressure on the prestige marques to improve even more.

  • avatar
    Sjalabais

    Just wondering…the competitive environment includes the A4, the middle kebab-offers and the MB C, among others.

    Wouldn’t the Volvo S60 be perceived as a competitor in this range? Or does it just sell in so insignificant numbers that mentioning it would seem ridiculous?

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      I think the latter.

    • 0 avatar
      Timothy Cain

      Not insignificant, not significant. http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01/volvo-s60-sales-figures.html

    • 0 avatar
      Tim R

      I crossed shopped the two and as much as they seem similar, they are quite different in a number of ways. The S60 is quieter and has a much smaller backseat. The G37 has noticeably more power and that combined with the RWD dynamics, makes it drive in a sportier fashion. The G37 also comes with Xenon headlights and back-up camera standard–features that I think sets it apart and that I benefit from on a daily basis. You also have the different styles of interior, but much of that is personal preference.

      • 0 avatar
        tekdemon

        The S60 has hilariously bad steering. Volvo made the steering effort obnoxiously great to try and make it feel sporty but it mostly just feels like a chore over longer drives (drove one for several days on a road trip) while giving zero feedback, it feels number than an Xbox controller. I don’t know how in 2014 we still have EPS systems that are this numb, my 2002 Civic Si had EPS and even that early implementation had better feel than the S60. Frankly I think Volvo should drop the faux sports sedan thing entirely, the S60s strongest points are its safety systems and fantastic ergonomics (best damned seats I’ve ever sat in) and the faux sporty steering frankly ruins a car that could be an amazingly comfortable and safe cruiser.

  • avatar
    klossfam

    It’s simple really – the cost of the G35/G37 platform was paid off long ago…Bigger profits now even at a reduced price. This car is still a great entry-lux,, performance bargain (I had a 2008 G35xS that I traded in 2012). A cohort at work is looking to refresh his 2007 G35x but he is having trouble finding something in the circa 2014-2015 market he likes as much as his ’07 with 60,000 miles on the odo.

    The bottom line is it’s still a great car. The second gen sedan for the 2007 model year was even a little ahead of it’s time with the features and performance value equation…Long live the G…I mean Q40/Q60…or whatever stupid naming convention Infiniti is up to at the moment.

  • avatar
    gasser

    Keeping the G37 was a great marketing idea. It filled the same purpose as the ill fated G25. I never could get the G25. Because Infiniti essentially only changed the engine ( instead of more thorough de-contenting like BMW 320) there wasn’t enough of a price differential to move the G20. Also the G25 engine offered very little in gas mileage improvement at the cost of much reduced performance. Good looking and good value.

  • avatar
    sportyaccordy

    Infiniti seems to find greatness on a ~15 year cycle. They came out swinging with the brilliant original Q45, and then, like Acura, for some unexplained reason, drop a string of duds from about 97-02. The 2nd and 3rd Q45 were pretty bad; the I30/I35 were superfluous Maximas and the QX4 was a superfluous Pathfinder in no way on the level of the RX300 or X5 it supposedly competed against. Then like Acura in 03-04 it came back with the G and FX etc. Now they are back in the wilderness.

    If it were up to me, here’s what I’d do at Infiniti:

    – Bring the VQ back down to 3.0L and make an N/A and turbo version. Load it up with DD, cam phasing on intake and exhaust, and dump the expensive/complicated VVEL system. Dump the V8 Q70 too, nobody buys them, nobody cares.
    – Go with the ZF 8 speed or design a torque converter connected 7DSG in house as the bread and butter transmission.
    – Make the EX a legit CUV instead of the Infiniti Kia Rondo w/no cargo space it is now. That segment is too hot to have a weak entrant in today.
    – Push into niches like the Germans. A “Q55” could be a swoopy 4 door hatchack to bridge the gap between the coupe and sedan etc.
    – Keep pushing on tech stuff. Aside from the Q60 coupe, dynamics aren’t really a selling point anymore in any other segment. If they were the ATS wouldn’t be down 20% year over year in a growing market.
    – Consult Fanatec for electric steering feel calibration

    I think the Q naming is stupid but its also a bit of a chance for Infiniti to truly reinvent itself

    • 0 avatar
      Dave M.

      While I don’t disagree with the brilliance of the Q45, remember it faceplanted on debut until they slapped a grille on it.

      I also thought the J30 was pretty funky for its time….

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        The gen 1 Q45 was introduced when Lexus had established the LS400, Mercedes had just introduced a new S-class, and Acura, Cadillac, and Lincoln were was still relevant. Its penchant for transmission problems didn’t help its resale much either.

  • avatar
    turboprius

    I think the Q50 became more practical and modern; it has more interior room and new technology. Look at vehicles like the Murano and the Maxima, which are still holding onto 2009 technology. The G37/Q40 has this old (yet still nice) technology.

    Something I can easily relate cars to are phones. Think about Android in 2009; tiny little phones with a very weak app store and many problems. Nowadays, Android phones are insane. The HTC One M7 came out a year and a half ago (I got mine in April), and I can write Word documents, make PowerPoints, text, play games, access social media, lock my phone into a mode in which the only functions are calling and texting, 32GB of storage, a 4.7 inch screen, Beats audio (I spoke against it, but that’s awesome of HTC to have contracted a deal with the king of Vevo product placement), and a contract price that’s now free. And that’s a phone from March 2013. The S5 is a beast, and the Shamu prototype looks amazing.

  • avatar
    JohnnyFirebird

    I don’t get Infiniti’s nameplates any more. I thought the Q50 was the replacement for the G37? I thought all models were going to start with Q? I thought that guy who just moved to Cadillac was secretly a member of Anonymous with a manifesto of running luxury car-makers into the ground with stupid ideas?

  • avatar
    Davekaybsc

    I don’t really get the fuss over the second gen G35/7. The first gen version admittedly had a horrible interior as did all Nissan products when they were just coming out of near bankruptcy and had to scrounge every last penny, BUT it was a lot of fun. It felt light and nimble, and even the AWD G35x was more than happy to rotate with a prod of the throttle.

    Most of that sense of fun and driver connectedness was already gone in gen 2, and now has been completely vaporized in gen 3. The gen 2 car felt much heavier, the steering was wooden and slow in comparison, and I just didn’t find the car to be all that much fun.

    The bump to 3.7L was also not a positive one in my book, an already unrefined and gruff engine for the lux segment at 3.5L turned into something agricultural.

    Infinit doesn’t seem to know what kind of cars it wants to make. The mags used to rave about the first gen G35, now everybody hates the Q50. The first M35/45 after the false start M were also highly praised for their reflexes, if rightly criticized for awkward interior designs and similar refinement problems as the G. Does anybody like the current M37 or whatever it’s called now? Q70?

    • 0 avatar

      The second-gen G was every bit as fun as the first-gen. It just added styling that people could take seriously, as well as a nicer interior and competitive features. And the 3.7-liter isn’t at all “agricultural”.

      Now the M37/M56/Q70…that, I will agree with you on. Though it was the start of Infiniti’s new “organic” design language, it’s completely anonymous and no one seems to care about it. For that reason, it makes an excellent used-car buy, however…since 2011 models can now be had for the same as a moderately-equipped Accord…

    • 0 avatar
      alsorl

      Infiniti to me does seem like a lost auto maker. The sales are mind bogglingly, an overly styled Nissan for the pseudo rich. There quite a few Infiniti’s in my employee parking lot due to the Nissan backed lease to move inventory. I’ve talked to a few of the women that own the cars asking why they bought that brand. Every one of them says it was just to pretty. To them they are just a fancy altima or Camry. I know Infiniti makes a quality auto. But I just can’t see spending my money on Nissan, sorry I mean Infiniti.

  • avatar
    Bocatrip

    The G35 was a winner and as mentioned saved Infiniti when first introduced in 2003. The G37 was still a great value although began diminishing the perfect body appeal of the first generation G35 Coupes. The 3rd generation Q50 was actually the worst of the generation cars, both in design and general reviews and will most likely bring sales down once the G37 is discontinued. In addition, Fit and Finish continue to be issues with all Infiniti products. I owned the first generation 2004 G35 Coupe, and although it was a great value and beautiful car, interior plastics as well as fit and finish were the worst I’ve seen on any car I’ve owned (other than AMC/Rambler) in my lifetime. I would never buy another Nissan/Infiniti although I understand they are still a good value in today’s market.

    • 0 avatar

      Infiniti are totally different from Nissan even they actually are JDM Nissans. I cannot say that they look pretty though, they are rather unusual looking but less ugly than Nissans. G II looked good though but still not elegant or beautiful. Nissans are Japanese analogues of muscle cars – not sophisticated but have lot of power. Maxima was a cheap and fun car to drive when it was a smaller midsize car. Currently all Nissans suck and are ugly and boring. So if you want Nissan there is no where to go other than consider Infiniti.

      P.S. This is actually the reply to different post which mysteriously disappeared :).

  • avatar
    JD23

    One quibble with the sales numbers: Why are coupe and sedan sales combined for the 3/4 series, the C class, and the Q50/60, but not for the A4 and A5?

  • avatar
    wmba

    Well, the G37 is the opposite of the Nissan Micra.

    The US gets the G37 still while Canada does not. The Micra is the opposite.

    So, the Q50 is a weird machine. The British reviews think it’s rubbish; Consumer Reports says it’s no G37 and doesn’t recommend it; it has had two recalls in the US; research online brings up a disproportionate number of unhappy customers, who, naturally enough expected a $40K premium Japanese car to actually be more nicely made and not have weird steering.

    My brother has a 2010 G37x, which I find only OK to drive, and not particularly well-assembled (rust under trunklid emblem after a year in Calgary, leather sketchily attached under front seats, booming powertrain at highway speed – minor but not expected at the price)

    Have not seen a single Q50 on the road around here. There are quite a few FX35, QX60 double price Muranos around and a fair number of failed CVTs complained about online.

    Makes you wonder. Especially now all the old G35 dashes are melting, yes melting in southern US states and bubbling elsewhere, and Infiniti won’t help.

    Like to hear from some owners.

  • avatar
    SoCalMikester

    The “G-ride” was introduced at a time when people were cashing out their home equity and looking for a bargain BMW alternative.

  • avatar
    krhodes1

    I have had a number of G37s in both RWD and AWD form as rentals, and I cannot say they impressed me in the slightest. Fast yes, but about as refined as my Cub Cadet garden tractor, the engine sounds like a bag of nails in a blender. The interior is just cheap and nasty, and the ride and handling not really up to German standards. They are like a cheap copy of a 3-series in the same way a Hyundai Genesis is a cheap copy of a Lexus. I guess that makes them decent value for money, but the real thing is much better if you can afford it.

  • avatar
    Tosh

    I’m astonished that a car company today would abandon a decade’s worth of name recognition and re-name every single offering in the lineup as Q-something. I am almost equally astonished that I, as a car nut, can’t be bothered to relearn their new nomenclature. I guess the joke’s on me, as I might accidentally buy some excessively curvy and over-styled luxo-mobile from a third tier cost-cutting carmaker if I don’t pay attention.

  • avatar
    MRF 95 T-Bird

    I wonder if the availability of a manual transmission figures into the continued popularity of the G37 or are sales of 3-pedal too negligible to matter. A couple of years ago the entry level G25 was offered as auto only.

  • avatar
    JGlanton

    I test drove a g37 and could not get out of that car fast enough. That wwas the only test drive i’ve ever taken where I was x demanding a shortcut back to the dealer. Buzzy, claustrophobic, uncomfortable, tacky interior with that faux watch clock, may be the worst car I have ever driven. No, definitely the worst car I have driven.

  • avatar
    genuineleather

    Drop the price $1k a year and sell it forever; who needs a modern entry-level offering?

    Personally, I’d take a stripper 320i over this any day.

    • 0 avatar
      Spartan

      If you’d take a 320i stripper over an Infiniti G37, then you’ve either never driven a G37 or you’re obsessed with the BMW badge.

      I owned a 2010 G37S 6MT coupe for 3 years. It was an awesome drive and I chose it over the 335i coupe. Yes the BMW’s interior was better, but for the same options, it sure as hell wasn’t $15k better. Yes, the difference between a comparably equipped 335i and G37 coupe is $15k.

      The flaws that “enthusiasts and mag racers” complain about the G37 are only known to people who look for those flaws. Yes the engine is coarse, but that’s hardly noticeable around town. No, the materials aren’t great, but unless you’re a dash stroker, it’s not obvious. The pre 2010 Infiniti Gs did have that awful wabashi trim, but it was cleaned up for 2010 with a brushed aluminum and better leather, higher resolution navi and a few other toys.

      Personally, I loved my G37 and had I not needed a truck, I would have kept it. I love my 2012 Platinum EB F-150, but I miss my G37. It’s a great car in its class the same way the Corolla is a great car in its class. Not class leading, but it does the job, it’s reliable and comfortable.

      • 0 avatar
        krhodes1

        As I have said previously, I have quite a lot of seat time in G37s. I’d take a 320i over one as well, never mind my 328i. The difference is not at all subtle. The extra grunt of the V6 is lost on me, far outweighed by the unappealing to me look inside and out, the unpleasant noise it makes (and the rather poor fuel economy), and I do not find them particularly comfortable. It’s not a BAD car certainly, but it is not a class leader in any way. It’s fine value for money, and it is a lot cheaper, but ultimately you do get what you pay for. If I am spending serious money for a car, the last thing I want is the Corolla of its class. At this level you are paying for art, and those small details count. It has nothing to do with the badge, it has to do with what your priorities are. I prefer refinement over speed, and I am not particularly price sensitive.

        • 0 avatar
          cpthaddock

          I usually pass by on lengthy stupid hate rant threads, but a 328 owner describing a Nissan VQ37 as agricultural – that’s beyond hilarious but you deserve zero respect for putting it out in public.

          The most diesel sounding gasolinee engine known to man resides under the hood of BMW’s x28. And to boot, their engines are uninspiring unreliable blobs compared to what they used to produce

          For the record, BMW persiting interiors persist with unacceptable interior flaws. Among them, try using your HVAC controls AND the cup holder simultaneously in a 3 or 4 series (minor upgrade from previous knee-impaler design). Still, after all these years, a sea of scattered indistinguishable black buttons across the center stack; the persistence of multiple scattered displays with their Tang-orange glow is just plain bad design. In fact, the only genuinely high quality appearing element is the navigation screen. Nevertheless, I’m sure it’s more useful to be able to electronically adjust your headrest than the angle and depth of your steering wheel – stupidity!

          The depths of the distate expressed by several folks here prove that prejudice, not experience, even less any semblence of even handedness are at work.

          The fact is, in the G35 and G37, Infiniti gave drivers 98.5% of a BMW for significantly less money and with significantly higher quality. When something like that happens, insecurity sets in and the results are on show in this thread. If you argue that the Q50 has lost it’s way from that magic formula – maybe so, I’ve not driven or priced a Q50.

          Over the past decade, I have spent my own cash money on infiniti cars and SUVs in direct preference to BMWs, after extensive seat time over many years, because for my personal requirements (i.e. not concerned with what the valet parking dude thinks and no prep school parents to be concerned with impressing) the BMWs don’t measure up. If that’s your thing though, enjoy it with my blessing, but keep the BS to yourself.

          • 0 avatar
            krhodes1

            My car has the N52 inline 6, one of the smoothest engines in the modern era. By comparison, the Nissan V6 is pretty agricultural, as are an awful lot of other engines.

            At best, I would call the Nissan six to be on par with the BMW N20 turbo 4 – it certainly isn’t any quieter or smoother. But being a long-time Saab pilot, I really like turbo 4s. If you like the way the V6’s sound, great! I don’t, and would prefer the major gas mileage advantage of the BMW 4 over the Nissan V6s extra power. It’s not a racing car…

            Not sure what you are on about otherwise – the controls of my BMW are a model of simplicity compared to the Tokyo-by-night effect of the Infiniti. I have no NAV screen, waste of money. There is one small display in the instrument cluster, and one for the radio, like most other cars. There has never been a 3-series with electrically adjustable headrests to my knowledge, and an electrically adjustable steering wheel seems like one more thing to expensively fail some day. My car has a perfectly usable manual tilt and telescoping wheel.

            I think the sales results ultimately tell the tale – evidently more people agree with me that the BMW is worth the extra money, for many and varied reasons. But if you own an Infiniti and love it, good for you! There is an @ss for every seat after all. I certainly didn’t buy my car to impress anyone, I bought it because it fit my wants and needs better than anything else, and I very much like the way it drives. If you prefer the way Infinitis fit your lifestyle, keep buying them. My next new car purchase will be a BMW 2-series, unless the new Mustang blows my socks off. I’m willing to give it a chance.

            So ultimately you seem to be the one with some sort of badge issue and/or inferiority complex, not me.

  • avatar
    Joe from MN

    Back in the day, I had a 2003 G35 5AT coupe, slick little car. But being a coupe it wasn’t suitable for the baby basket that came a few years later. (To keep the fun alive, I’m now on a 4 door GTI.)

    All that said, Nissan / Infiniti could keep the model around by dropping the G-Series, but rebadge it as a Nissan. Dev costs are already paid for, interior wasn’t all that nice, why not? Give it some new sheet metal and call it a Skyline in the 4 door version, and the coupe could be tweaked as a 370Z 2+2 a la 300Z. That was the description I often gave for my coupe when friends asked about my G35 (“A used Infiniti? Why?”)

    PS longtime lurker, first time commenter.

  • avatar
    V6

    wah wah wah.

    I have a 2007 Skyline 350GT with the 5 speed auto. I find the gas consumption pretty good around town, better than I expected and a lot better than my partners 2.1 X-Type. Open road isn’t that great because the gearing in the 5 speed is so short for a 3.5 (2600rpm @ 60mph/100kph).
    No it’s probably not as refined as a 3-series, however the interior of the E90 was not that great with peeling and easily scuffed rubber coated plastics and I prefer the design of the Skyline/G.
    At the end of day, I bought it because I wanted a sporty rear drive Japanese sedan, didn’t want another euro, plus I like that it’s larger than a 3-series but smaller than a 5-series.

    • 0 avatar
      DeadWeight

      Awesome vehicle.

      Better than any current Infinity product by a very wide chasm.

      If I owned that, I’d keep it forever.

      I am so sick of these buzzy 4 bangers in “premium/sport/p” vehicles, with their abysmal interiors, pretending to be able to seat 4 adults comfortably, with wet noodle chassis’ and half-arse steering.

  • avatar

    I’ve had one for years and love it. One of the best sedans on the market. This is why sales are maintaining over the years.

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