Piston Slap: The I's Have It?

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta
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TTAC Commentator bpscarguy writes:

I need some advice – I am struggling with a decision on what to do with our daily driver. It’s a 2002 Infiniti I35. 140,000 largely trouble-free, easy, no fuss miles. It does everything we want, has some creature comforts, is in very good, clean condition.

The problem is, last month I put on new front brakes to the tune of $245.00. At that time my mechanic told me of some looming items that will likely need addressing in the next month:

  • Leaking head gasket – $535.00
  • Front axle boots – $385.00
  • Front wheel bearing – $620.00 ( I did the other one last year)

This car has been the most trouble-free I have owned, but I also understand that it is getting on in age and will likely start needing more and more attention. I am very tempted to sell it and get something newer (not new) with less miles on it. Likely another Infiniti or possibly an A4 or older E class Mercedes.

Or should I repair it and just chalk this up to bad timing that all of this is happening at once, and therefore making it seem worse than it is?

Thoughts? Many thanks!

Sajeev answers:

Isn’t it funny how one decision can cause a chain reaction? Or-if you choose wisely-not?

Here’s the deal: if you buy a used A4 or E-class (lacking a handy CPO warranty) you’ll regret not dumping a pile of cash on I35 reconditioning. The I is certainly an older car needing [s]constant[/s] frequent attention, but it’s not a money/time sucking Pit of Disappointment. With those nasty German parts costs and labor rates, that perhaps you aren’t considering.

Perhaps one day we can say a 4-10 year old vehicle from this part of the world is a fair proposition for people living in the USA: perhaps time will tell.

A newer Infiniti is the smarter choice: it keeps you in the premium luxo-sedan game and is less likely to punish your wallet than the German alternatives. But newer Infinitis lack the I35’s inbreeding advantages with the Nissan Maxima. With that in mind, dare I suggest a Camry-bred Lexus ES?

Generalizations are all fine and dandyit’s at the core of the Internet in general and Piston Slap in particularbut what does it boil down to?

It’s about your time value of money.

Is the I35 gonna leave you stranded more often than a newer car? Likely. Will it be cheaper to fix those unexpected surprises and the normal wear items? Most definitely. So will you miss the I35 if it goes bye-bye?

If you replace it with an out-of-warranty Benz/Audi, I can almost guarantee it.

[Image: Shutterstock user SpeedKingz]

Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry…but be realistic, and use your make/model specific forums instead of TTAC for more timely advice.

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  • Dave M. Dave M. on May 28, 2014

    Keep the I35. You like the car, it looks great, and for $100 a month towards maintenance you can feel confident. The I35 reminds me of the pre-2009 Acura TL-S: classy, sporty, Q-ship.

    • Corey Lewis Corey Lewis on Jun 03, 2014

      They look good in certain muted colors as well, with gold badging. Just like the QX4.

  • StudeDude StudeDude on May 28, 2014

    Though several folks have mentioned the G37X as a possible replacement, also consider the unloved G25X, which was out there for only 2 years. I see a fair number of off-lease cars out there in the market and pricing is very competitive. Better gas mileage, lower purchase price and decent (not great) performance might be just the ticket as a reliable ride for the wife. That is, of course unless you want to keep the I35 and do the repairs.

    • Corey Lewis Corey Lewis on Jun 03, 2014

      I would never advise purchasing a vehicle with an engine which was only in one car for two years.

  • Jeff S Corey--We know but we still want to give our support to you and let TTAC know that your articles are excellent and better than what the typical articles are.
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