Piston Slap: Justy-fied Freestylin' Over CVTs, Part IV

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Mark writes:

Hello,

I enjoy reading the piston slap series.

I have a 2009 Altima with the 2.5 4 banger and the CVT transmission. I’m not a big fan of the CVT, but it works ok and gets decent mileage. I bought this car as it was the cheapest car I could find that fits 4 adults and qualified me for the cash-for-clunkers handout. I didn’t expect to keep it long or pile the miles on it this quickly but now it has 90k on it. I mostly drive it without any passengers as we now have 3 kids and the minivan gets used for family duty (just had one kid when we bought the Altima). I’m trying to decide if I should hold onto it or sell it – it’s kind of at that point where if I keep much longer, I’ll probably end up driving it into the ground.

The transmission is the wildcard to me – is there a consensus whether these trannys can be expected to last for 150k or more miles? The trans warranty goes through 120k but by that point the vehicle probably won’t be worth a whole lot.

Sajeev answers:

That body style Altima was my favorite rental in its class for a while, its CVT was surprisingly on point. Compared to other manufacturer’s downright slothy 6-speed automatic transaxles, Nissan’s CVT (from 2007 and up?) was no slouch in any metric.

Even if the transmission fails right after the warranty expires, this isn’t an unobtainium gearbox like the Subaru Justy. Nissan’s been in the CVT game for years now, odds are they’ve spent millions investing in this future (including warranties). There’s a learning curve in rebuilding/diagnosing them, but (in theory) CVTs are fairly straightforward. This webinar brings a ton of valuable pros and cons of CVTs from the perspective of a local transmission rebuilder.

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  • Plee Plee on Jan 14, 2015

    The failure rate of the CVT in the Nissan Pathfinder and Infiniti JX is very high. For Nissan's sake, I hope all these hundreds of thousands of vehicles they have been selling lately do not have the same failure rate as those two, it would be the kiss of death.

  • Type44 Type44 on Jan 15, 2015

    Those in the know, know... The BG machine would not be used in a CVT application; it's loaded with the wrong fluid, and the trans pump provides the pressure which is not a certainty in most CVTs I've seen. Drain, refill, and cross your fingers.

    • -Nate -Nate on Jan 15, 2015

      Thank you . I didn't know but I *do* know to ask here as Forums are my friend.... Sooner or later I'll be faced with a CVT and this is the first time I've heard anything but derision and hate on them @ TTAC . One of my old Mercedes W123's has the hydro-pneumatic rear suspension and it can either be a royal PIA or a wonderful thing , as I routinely carry 7 people in it , I prefer the wonderful thing route and use Mercedes fluids in it because all problems always seem to begin with leaks and experience has taught me that hydraulic leaks are caused my lack of service and wrong fluids , in that order . Damage and wear comes long after . I hope the California Tree Hugging Thought Police don't arrest me for doing Routine Maintenance properly ! (sarcasm font is broken) =8-) . -Nate

  • Jeff Look at the the 65 and 66 Pontiacs some of the most beautiful and well made Pontiacs. 66 Olds Toronado and 67 Cadillac Eldorado were beautiful as well. Mercury had some really nice looking cars during the 60s as well. The 69 thru 72 Grand Prix were nice along with the first generation of Monte Carlo 70 thru 72. Midsize GM cars were nice as well.The 69s were still good but the cheapening started in 68. Even the 70s GMs were good but fit and finish took a dive especially the interiors with more plastics and more shared interiors.
  • Proud2BUnion I typically recommend that no matter what make or model you purchase used, just assure that is HAS a prior salvage/rebuilt title. Best "Bang for your buck"!
  • Redapple2 jeffbut they dont want to ... their pick up is 4th behind ford/ram, Toyota. GM has the Best engineers in the world. More truck profit than the other 3. Silverado + Sierra+ Tahoe + Yukon sales = 2x ford total @ $15,000 profit per. Tons o $ to invest in the BEST truck. No. They make crap. Garbage. Evil gm Vampire
  • Rishabh Ive actually seen the one unit you mentioned, driving around in gurugram once. And thats why i got curious to know more about how many they sold. Seems like i saw the only one!
  • Amy I owned this exact car from 16 until 19 (1990 to 1993) I miss this car immensely and am on the search to own it again, although it looks like my search may be in vane. It was affectionatly dubbed, " The Dragon Wagon," and hauled many a teenager around the city of Charlotte, NC. For me, it was dependable and trustworthy. I was able to do much of the maintenance myself until I was struck by lightning and a month later the battery exploded. My parents did have the entire electrical system redone and he was back to new. I hope to find one in the near future and make it my every day driver. I'm a dreamer.
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