Piston Slap: Bouncing Back or Sprung Out?

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

John writes:

You recommended to one writer that he consider replacing the springs on his car (as well as all other wear items in the suspension). Other then the obvious broken spring or the car sitting of the spring stops, when and how do you evaluate the need for springs? Do you recommend stock setting or performance springs for replacement?

Thanks, John (Jag, Kia, Miata, Chev)

Sajeev answers:

The most obvious sign of a worn out coil spring is a super plush ride combined with a saggy ride height at any corner. Funny tire wear or an impossible to find groan could also be a sign of bad coil springs. If you drive on suspension punishing roads (Boston-like urban, or unpaved rural) and drive a vehicle that’s 5+ years old with 100,000-ish miles, odds are a saggy coil has sprung its last proper rebound.

This isn’t obvious like a leaky air suspension bladder puking out pressurized air, but metal fatigue is for real. Even when not felt: springs, much like headlight bulbs, go bad very slowly.

While shocks/dampers affect ride, they can’t do a darn thing if the springs collapse to the point of no return. A proper ride height check is good, or just measuring right height from left to right with a few fingers. If one side has less space between your fingers, you just diagnosed the problem. (speaking from personal experience)

Fortunately there are quick fixes for many cars: something like Monroe’s Quick Strut saves you money (labor hours) or time (in your garage) as you replace both the shock and strut in one shot, cheaper than changing the strut itself. Nice.

Last question: stick with stock or go performance aftermarket? That’s a personal preference for which you gave me zero personal insight. I normally default to retaining the stock spring, as it has the correct rate to ensure a fine ride/handling balance and won’t bottom out when loaded with passengers/cargo. It’s always the safe bet. But…

Bonus! A Piston Slap Nugget of Wisdom:

When it comes to shocks/struts/dampers or whatever you like to call them, that’s a different story. Some of my favorite performing vehicles use stock springs with aftermarket shocks of the premium performance variety: Koni or Bilstein for starters. Most drivers need a stock spring (even if they don’t want to admit it) but they certainly want superior control over the spring’s up/down motion. Aside from well sorted out performance cars, you’d be shocked at just how much better an OEM spring and performance damper work together to bring a big-ass smile to your face when hugging a corner or two. And that’s even more reason to stick with stock springs.

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Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry…but be realistic, and use your make/model specific forums instead of TTAC for more timely advice.

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  • -Nate -Nate on Jul 02, 2014

    . " I think it’s important to point out that suspension tuning is a black art." Boy howdy you said it ! . I tend to have non Sporting Motor Vehicles (avatar etc.) that I then want to drive waayyy too fast so as soon as I can I replace the shocks with Bilstein HD's , even SWMBO'a old Mercedes Sedan got them and she's well pleased with them . Me OTOH , I want a firmer ride and so often replace the springs with heavier ones but never lowered as I drive a lot on bad pavement , off road , over RR tracks etc. I like the firmed up ride quite a bit but SWMBO no longer likes riding in my avatar car as is makes her " wiggly bits " bounce too much ~ I don't notice , everyone else says it goes too damn fast . It too has red polyurethane suspension bushings now . =8-) . -Nate

  • Tinker Tinker on Jul 14, 2014

    I bought a new 1997 F-150, that had a horrible ride, When I'd make a turn from the highway into the subdivision, the change in road level (the drainage channels are particularly deep along this road) gave the cab a HUGE thump, and I couldn't decide whether it was the tires or the shocks. So I took a chance and replaced the tires. Nope. A few months further on I installed Edelbrock lifetime shocks, and that cured the problem. Seems the OEM valving did not allow the tire to stay in contact with the road surface. The Edelbrock valving was soft enough under full droop it really improved the ride. Made my year...

    • Highdesertcat Highdesertcat on Jul 14, 2014

      Shades of my 2006 F150!!! I had a similar experience. Cured mine by putting on four Michelin tires and Rancho Long-travel Gas shocks. Cured everything that ailed the ride.

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