Ford Loads The Scales With Apples And Oranges

Derek Kreindler
by Derek Kreindler

From Jalopnik‘s Andrew Collins comes the discovery that Ford’s “weight savings” between the 2014 F-150 Lariat and the 2015 Lariat isn’t entirely a fair comparison.

As Collins reports, Ford confirmed that the two trucks were not quite the same. The 2014 had a 5.0L V8, while the 2015 had the all-new 2.7L Ecoboost V6.

Collins writes

Their defense; the new 2.7 is meant to be comparable to a “mid-range V8,” which the 5.0 is (the 2.7 is just 5 lb-ft of torque shy of the 5.0’s output, but the V8 makes 35 more horsepower). They’ve also been suggesting that the 2015 V8 (and 3.5 EcoBoost) may get a power bump, for what it’s worth.

But the fact remains; a 2015 F-150 5.0 Lariat SuperCrew V8 exists, and that would have been a more direct comparison against the outgoing truck.

As I maintained earlier this week, a lot of this stuff isn’t worth much, until we see a full table of engine specs, curb weights, towing and payload capacities and fuel economy figures. For now, we’re getting carefully packaged tidbits of info from Ford PR.

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  • Jfbramfeld Jfbramfeld on Jul 24, 2014

    Unless you have a particulaly bad driveway, I can't imagine that anyone cares how much their truck, or any personal vehicle for that matter, weighs. All we care about is mpgs, acceleration, load capacity, durability and cost. Would I buy a truck that was 2,000 lbs lighter if it got 10% worse mileage? Marketing any magnitude of weight reduction is a red herring.

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    • Dan Dan on Jul 25, 2014

      @krhodes1 "If they had performance numbers similar to what was considered entirely adequate then, they would be even MORE economical. There is a ridiculous size and speed war going on in this segment." And your metrosexual clown car would be even MORE economical if they took the turbocharger and some of those extra cylinders off, if it's wasteful for us then surely you don't need to be going that fast either. The government banning european and gay looking cars can't come soon enough to put a halt to this foolishness. 2.3L Fox bodies and Cimarrons zigged adequately in the 80s so there's no reason you can't just live with handling like that now. 195mm tires on 13 inch wheels and all. See how ridiculous you sound?

  • Z71_Silvy Z71_Silvy on Jul 24, 2014

    Typical Ford deception. They love lying to people. And there is no doubt in my money that the 2014 truck had extra weight in it. Ford probably didn't complete the '15 truck either making it lighter. This 2015 beer can F150 is going to do untold damage to the F-Series. This will be far worse than the 6.0 disaster.

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    • Z71_Silvy Z71_Silvy on Jul 25, 2014

      Why do you people always bring up GM in an article about Ford? Stay on task!

  • Redav Redav on Jul 25, 2014

    So, this article is about how this article doesn't mean anything until we get more information?

  • Mcarr Mcarr on Jul 25, 2014

    I will still maintain that the weight numbers they're stating now, will not be the numbers when we see the production models. GM was touting a 500 lbs weight savings right up until a few months before the dealers got them. Turned out to be a 250-300 weight savings. A crew-cab Lariat that's under 5,000 lbs? I'm not sure I believe that one.

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    • VoGo VoGo on Jul 26, 2014

      @Lou_BC Dear Sylvester, Given that you are so smart and know so much about how terrible Ford is, why don't you short the stock? Then you can truly profit from your insight, rather than waste time with us fools.

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