By on July 22, 2013

During a visit to USA Today‘s editorial offices, CEO Dan Akerson of General Motors clarified the question of a rear wheel drive Cadillac flagship.  Akerson confirmed that Cadillac is indeed working on a RWD based model that will likely slot in above Cadillac’s current top of the line XTS sedan and probably go on sale in 2015.

 

According to USA Today, that car will be “very loosely based” on the platform underpinning the new 2014 CTS, not a platform from GM’s Australian subsidiary, Holden, which has supplied platforms for many recent RWD GM cars like the Camaro, the new Chevy police car and the Chevrolet SS. It will come in an AWD version, considered by many in the luxury field to be an essential feature to be able to sell cars north of the Mason-Dixon line. Though the XTS also comes in an AWD version, the new sedan is not likely to replace the biggest current Caddy. Though sometimes derided by enthusiasts, the XTS sells well, in this country and in China. In North America, GM sells about as many XTS models as it does with the CTS. Akerson made a point of saying that the new large sedan will not resemble recent Cadillac concept cars, making it clear without saying so that the Ciel is dead, as was reported recently. The flagship, along with other upcoming Cadillacs will, however, pick up styling cues from the Ciel and other concepts, as evident in the front end of the new CTS that features headlamps units that extend back along the ridge of the front fenders.

 

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56 Comments on “Akerson Confirms: Cadillac Will Build Large RWD Flagship, Just Not the Ciel...”


  • avatar
    86er

    Those headlights wouldn’t never passed muster, anyhow.

  • avatar
    canddmeyer

    I suspect this will take the place of the defunct Town Car.

  • avatar
    Xeranar

    Cadillac has a good design theme but needs to stay away from the 300 body style. Clearly the full-size lux leaders are big but lithe looking for their size. I like the ciel but it would have been a hard sell in the corporate office park.

  • avatar
    Detroit-X

    GM continues down its path of: way too many models for its market share.

    • 0 avatar
      ash78

      It was CTS, DTS, so they added XTS and ATS just to “bookend” the alphabet. I expect this to be the ZTS and 20-24 new models to follow, including a replacement for the Cimarron (based on the Cruze, naturally).

      • 0 avatar
        Lorenzo

        You’re probably right about the naming. There’s likely no one in charge who would worry that ZTS would be pronounced “zits”. Even fewer would consider bringing back a storied name like DeVille, Fleetwood, Eldorado, or even Seville, much less think up a new name.

  • avatar
    Kyree S. Williams

    I’m relieved. This means that the GM staff can actually focus on making the volume S-Class/A8/LS/XJ/7-Series fighter the best flagship that it can be…and not make fools of themselves by jumping into the ultraluxury class prematurely. I have no doubts, however, that Cadillac will thrive and that in the future, a car like the Ciel will be viable and profitable…and breathtaking.

    Meanwhile, crosstown-competitor Lincoln could use all the help it can get…and a blocky ultraluxury car certainly couldn’t hurt the company’s reputation any more than the nonsense they’ve *been* putting out.

  • avatar

    There’s nothing at all wrong with the XTS. It’s got the right amount of headroom and legroom for me and I’m 2 Meters tall. Therefore, the average 6’0 or less family could easily fill out that car.

    The real problems are:

    #1 They need the Twin Turbo V6 STANDARD and an optional V8.
    Some people still equate having a V8 with “luxury” or owning “the top trim” because when they were younger, that’s what their parents claimed.

    If Chrysler can put out a 470HP Hemi for $55,000 and a 390HP V8 for less than $45,000, there’s no reason GM and Ford can’t build a reasonable V8 with cylinder deactivation for less than $55,000.

    The Ecoboost isn’t a bad engine, but for $55,000 on a MKS fully loaded I’d demand more options.

    #2 The interior is THE BEST of all American cars. Better than the Model S especially in fit and finish. The leather and seat comfort is the best I’ve seen. But why is it a Hyundai Azera has powered waterfall cushions for the thighs and this car has manual pull outs? Why doesn’t it have motorized headrests like the Equus?

    #3 C.U.E isn’t fast enough. Its adjustments via pinch-to-zoom are so slow it’s worse than the cheapest Android tablet – because they had to match the original iPad’s speed and therefore turned out similar performance tablets.

    #4 Heated and Cooled front seats with massage with heated and cooled backseats. Take out that STUPID vibrating warning alert system and put in a lumbar massager.

    Basically, when I drive my car, I demand to be reminded every single second and at every single angle where my money went.

    On a side note: I’d considered buying a Porsche Panamera 4 with 13,000 miles on it for $70,000 and I flat out HATED IT. It took me over 3 minutes to find the key insert.

    • 0 avatar
      tuffjuff

      The problem I have with the XTS is that not enough differentiates it from the LaCrosse to warrant the price. I believe it’s slightly longer, but you’d be surprised what you can get in a LaCrosse for the same or cheaper than a base XTS… the problem being, of course, the 3.6 is the base engine in the LaCrosse, and also the base engine in the XTS. THAT is the problem I have.

      • 0 avatar

        Well tuff…

        I actually feel the XTS is a leap over the Lacrosse.

        This is the same problem the SHO faced when compared with the MKS.

        What are you paying $15,000 more for?

        Having more powered functions and a V8 option would answer that question.

        • 0 avatar
          Kyree S. Williams

          Really, I think the XTS may get more competition from its stylish 2014 Impala platform-mate than the LaCrosse, at this point. And it is not a fair comparison to say that the XTS is the same lack-of-value as the MKS EcoBoost is over the Taurus. For one, the XTS’s twin-turbo V6 won’t even be available on the LaCrosse and Impala. Second, Lincoln actually uses the same interfaces, graphics and even keys as its Ford counterpart. The Cadillac offers a unique experience, even if CUE is somewhat frustrating over MyFord Touch.

          And especially *because* the rather powerful twin-turbo V6 won’t be available on the lower-tier LaCrosse and Impala, there’s no reason to supplement it with a V8. Plenty of luxury cars start with the highest engine their cheaper counterparts offer, and go from there. And that V8 would have to be significantly more powerful than the twin-turbo V6. That’s an order more-suitable for RWD-biased cars like the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Charger.

          But, more than all of that that, GM would be doing a great dishonor to Cadillac if it stopped at the XTS, given the league that Cadillac wants to be among. The brand needs a proper RWD-biased flagship. “A leap above the LaCrosse” it may be, but the XTS is not a leap to world-class luxury.

        • 0 avatar

          the XTS looks like it was designed by three year olds. it is a styling disaster.

    • 0 avatar
      hubcap

      “On a side note: I’d considered buying a Porsche Panamera 4 with 13,000 miles on it for $70,000 and I flat out HATED IT. It took me over 3 minutes to find the key insert.”

      What, other than your inability to insert the key, did you not like about the Panamera?

    • 0 avatar
      th009

      @bigtruck, regarding inserting a key in the Panamera — that is so 1990s!

  • avatar
    tuffjuff

    As somebody who’s “soft shopping” the $45-50k mid-sized luxury SUV segment (I’m a year or two out on a purchase), I am amazed at how uncompetitive GM’s luxury offerings really are; part of this might be that they’re due for a refresh, but I can’t help but feel like they just don’t “get it.”

    When you can spend over $50k on a Cadillac SRX and NOT get keyless ignition and smart access, or a soft touch dash, that’s embarassing. And likewise for the Enclave – you have to spent $50k+ to get smart key access. I can find a $15k subcompact with this same feature, why isn’t it standard on ALL Enclaves?

    Thankfully the Enclave (and all the Lambda vehicles) propensity to leak when it rains (seriously, this is an issue tha has existed, since day 1, without a fix – Google it) ruled it and it’s slightly more masculine, equally as attractive GMC Acadia out of contention for me, entirely. Still, I can’t help but wish the SRX offered more. I love my Chevy Equinox, and wish I could find a competitive American offering in this size that wasn’t the Jeep Grand Cherokee.

    • 0 avatar

      Dodge Journey?

      • 0 avatar
        tuffjuff

        The Journey isn’t a terrible vehicle, but it’s on the small side of crossovers, and it’s not a luxury crossover. I’m looking to spend around twice the cost of a Journey.

        • 0 avatar
          Lie2me

          The 2015 MKX is going to be redone. Haven’t seen the Lincoln, but the Ford Edge looks like it has potential

          • 0 avatar
            tuffjuff

            See, that’s the problem I have. I loved my 2012 Focus, and equally like my 2013 Equinox, but when I test drove a loaded Edge I just couldn’t get over two things:

            Firstly, there are two strips of silver plastic on either side of the center console, which really undermines the otherwise pretty nice, soft touch interior.

            Second, and the deal-breaker for me: the center stack and console are HUGE. I’m 6’5 and a slightly bigger dude, but I fit very comfortably in my Equinox. Slipping into the Edge, and the door panels push inward a bit more than my liking, which wouldn’t be a problem but that center column literally couldn’t be any bigger. I felt squished into the thing.

            I am hoping when they redesign the Edge they might address this, but in the meantime I can’t imagine the MKX is any different.

    • 0 avatar

      You know, Google does have the ability to sort by date ;-)

      The Lambda water leak issues were all solved and taken care of through recalls/TSB’s by 2010. I have a relative who is very high up on the Program Development Team for the Lambda’s and can confirm.

      “you have to spent $50k+ to get smart key access. I can find a $15k subcompact with this same feature,”

      Name it…

      “When you can spend over $50k on a Cadillac SRX and NOT get keyless ignition and smart access”

      That’s funny, I just built one on the Cadillac site for $43,600 with “The sharp silhouette of the SRX Crossover Luxury Collection is accented with 18″ 7-spoke aluminum wheels with bright machine finish. Luxurious details like leather seating surfaces with French-stitched seams, Sapele wood trim and ambient lighting envelop the interior. SRX also includes convenient features like KEYLESS ACCESS, heated front seats, heated steering wheel, front and rear park assist, power liftgate with memory height adjustment” Much less than the $50,000 you exaggerate about.

      • 0 avatar
        tuffjuff

        On a long thread on I beleive Edmunds, there are accounts as recently as May of this year where a gentlemen test drove an Enclave and had water leakage in the headliner and overhead light. There are also MANY other accounts of similar instances happening on 2012 Acadias and Enclaves. It’s far from resolved, and that’s what is most frustrating.

        And I didn’t say the SRX didn’t have keyless entry. I said, to my knowledge, it didn’t come with push button start or smart key access. And perhaps it’s bad luck, but I can’t find an SRX below $48k on any lot locally to me, with the exception of one stripped down model, and none of the models I went to look at a few months back had the feature. And the dash is hard touch plastic, which is entirely unacceptable for the price. An Acura MDX or Infiti FX37, the cars I’m cross-shopping this with, come with more for the same price. Sorry that you’re in denial?

        And the Kia Rio, Hyundai Accent, Ford Fiesta, etc ALL have smart key access in the mid to maybe high teens. Sorry to bring you down to reality.

        • 0 avatar

          BS on the Smart Key. You really need to use the Internet for more than just posting, it is really quite powerful and quite fast ;-)

          Kia Rio – Only can get Keyless on highest level SE for a starting price over $20K

          Ford Fiesta – Only can get Keyless on the Platinum $19K

          Hyundai Accent – Not available.

          Next…

          • 0 avatar
            tuffjuff

            I appreciate that you’re clearly a die-hard GM fan. I, too, like GM’s vehicles… that’s why I paid twenty seven grand for one in January.

            That said, of the four SRX’ that were new I looked at a few months ago, three were $50k+ and one was ~$40k (if there’s cash on the hood, this wasn’t disclosed) and none of them had smart keys. If that’s an available option, I wasn’t aware of it, so pardon my ignorance for thinking if a $50k Cadillac SRX does NOT have smart key that none of them do.

            And my bad, given the Forte can be had for $17k I was under the impression the Rio topped out in the high teens. I appreciate that you just admitted a $19-20k Kia has smart key access while many variants of the Cadillac SRX for over double the cost of said Kia don’t.

            I’d love to stay with GM. I love the ambient lighting my my ’13 Equinox, and although GM blatantly lies about fuel economy on the I4′s, the overall size of the vehicle and it’s all weather capability (at least compared to a compact hatchback it replaced) is appreciated. And I love the MyLink system, even if it’s on the slower side. If there were a way to buy an SRX with enough differentiation, better sound insulation (I haven’t test driven one to know) I’d be all over it.

            That said, don’t get so b-hurt. It looks bad.

          • 0 avatar
            bumpy ii

            Nissan Versa Note has it for $17k-ish. A luxury brand should have it as standard equipment, unless their clientele is mostly technophobic.

          • 0 avatar

            GM fan and employee, regardless, my only intention was to make sure the facts are out there. Many people look at the comment sections and believe that sometimes an emotional response or assumption are reality.

            I also put my money where my mouth is and plunked down $23,000 for a Cruze in March that is meeting (and sometimes exceeding) the EPA estimates (38 highway/26 city/32 combined) from it’s I4 (1.4l Turbo Manual) so not all of the I4′s are off. And that is not easy driving (I came from a Cobalt SS Supercharged). I also have a 2010 Equinox with the 2.4l and have been very happy with the 30 mpg highway and 26 mpg combined that my wife has been getting (no way I can get that with my lead foot). Remember, the government certifies the MPG numbers, not GM, so in reality, they can’t lie about them.

            Appreciate your professional responses and not resorting to the name calling, blatant denial and overall poor responses that are sometimes present here and other sites. Thanks.

          • 0 avatar
            tuffjuff

            I’m glad to hear you’re getting good mileage from your Cruze. I would imagine (and hope!) their EPA ratings aren’t off, but given my experience with my Equinox, and others, as noted below, it’s obviously an issue:

            http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/06/alphabet-soup-4×4-vs-4wd-vs-awd-wheres-the-differential/

            Almost every review, if not every review, has mentioned the I4 Equinox has had problems getting anywhere near EPA estimates, and I knew (and assumed it to be true) going in. That said, when I drive from Green Bay to Chicago and back, and spend the entire drive each way doing 67 MPH on cruise, and only get 26 MPG overall, that’s pretty disappointing. Granted, I average 24-25 MPG combined each and every fill-up, but my driving is highway biased, I leave the Eco mode on and I hardly have a lead foot. The V6, ironically, beats EPA estimates, according to dozens of accounts on Equinox owner’s forums. That said, perhaps the V6 has less optimistic estimates than the I4.

            My Pontiac G6, with the…. 3.5 liter V6? Easily did 30-31 MPG on highway commutes, despite it’s revised EPA rating of I want to say 27 or 28 highway, and my Chevy Cobalt would continuously get 27-29 MPG combined, and it was rated at I want to say 24/32? (it’s been quite a few years) so that’s not bad either.

            Looking at my local GM volume dealer’s lot, now, I see quite a few SRX equipped with the Luxury Package or whatever it’s called, and if I can make it out from the admittedly small pictures it looks like they might have smart key, and only run around $45k, which isn’t that bad. Honestly, by the time I’m in the market (in a year or two) GM will probably have refreshed the entire line, but I’ll definitely have to give it a look. I guess my initial point was that for $45k you can get an MDX (similarly sized to Theta platform, at least for usable interior room) or an FX37 (whole different kind of vehicle admittedly but something I’ve been considering) and get a much more premium feeling interior in either vehicle. Then again, the MDX starts at about $45k out the door, and the FX37 starts even a little higher if I’m not mistaken, whereas the SRX starts about ten grand less… but hey, a $45k loan is a $45k loan. ;)

          • 0 avatar

            Hey tuff, seriously I really think you may have an issue with your ‘Nox. I just recently did a trip of about 250 miles from southern to northern Michigan with mine, most of the time with the cruise on 79mph, with a 3 person Jet Ski on the back and got 25 – with the a/c on. No BS, and not trip computer data.

            Have you tried using the “Manual” button shifter? Since your city mpg is not bad, I wonder if it is not shifting into 6th gear at highway speeds. I know with my manual Cruze, it is hard to tell the difference in engine sound from 5th to 6th (actually only changes the rpms by about 500).

          • 0 avatar
            tuffjuff

            If my Equinox has a problem, and it doesn’t, that must mean every other I4 has an issue. My mediocre mileage is hardly uncommon.

          • 0 avatar

            Sorry Tuff, just trying to help.

            Also, respectfully need to add some clarification to your statement “every other I4 has an issue”. Our discussion and your issues have been with 1 of the 4 cylinder engines GM produces the 2.4l to be exact. The 1.4l, 1.8l, 2.0l, 2.5l should not be included as they have all proven to, so far, meet or exceed EPA mpg estimates.

  • avatar
    suspekt

    I am quite in love with the Ciel design language. Not so much the car itself, but all of the design themes. I felt the Ciel was finally a concept car that properly fully reconciled the entire Art & Science design motif.

    For example, the entirety of how the hood met the grill and the proportionality of the grill size (length & width) to the overall frontal area of the car. There are just numerous examples all over the Ciel that SHOULD be part of future Cadillac DNA. It is just a breathtaking design.

  • avatar
    ranwhenparked

    The XTS is a perfectly decent car for what it is (and amazingly, considering how the Deville and DTS faired, actually seems to attract customers with both feet well away from the grave, but it really just isn’t up to the task of serving as a real luxury flagship. It’s just too close in dimensions to the Buick LaCrosse to really do the job. Size still matters in this market segment, the cars need to have presence and elegant proportions and need to have vast amounts of interior room, especially in the back seat. The XTS is just too close coupled and too cramped inside to really pull it off. It’s more of a mildly overweight midsize car than a true full-size flagship in the vein of the late, lamented Fleetwood.

    Wheelbase:
    1. BMW 7-Series LWB: 126.4 inches
    2. Mercedes-Benz S-Class LWB: 124.6 inches
    3. Jaguar XJL: 124.3 inches
    4. Audi A8L: 122.9 inches
    5. Lexus LS LWB: 121.7 inches
    6. BMW 7-Series: 120.9 inches
    7. Chrysler 300 & Dodge Charger: 120.2 inches
    8. Hyundai Equus: 119.9 inches
    9. Mercedes-Benz S-Class: 119.5 inches
    10. Jaguar XJ: 119.4 inches
    11. Chevrolet Caprice: 118.5 inches
    12. Audi A8: 117.8 inches
    13. Lexus LS & BMW 5-Series (midsize): 116.9 inches
    14. Hyundai Genesis: 115.6 inches
    15. Chevrolet SS: 114.8 inches
    16. Audi A7: 114.7 inches (midsize)
    17. Cadillac CTS: 114.6 inches (midsize)
    18. Jaguar XF: 114.5 inches (midsize)
    19. Infiniti M: 114.2 inches (midsize)
    20. Mercedes-Benz E-Class: 113.9 inches (midsize)
    21. Lincoln MKS & Ford Taurus: 112.9 inches
    22. Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class: 112.4 inches (midsize)
    23. Acura RLX: 112.3 inches
    24. Ford Fusion & Lexus GS: 112.2 inches (midsize)
    25. Lincoln MKZ: 112.1 inches (midsize)
    26. Kia Cadenza: 112 inches
    27. Chevrolet Impala, Buick LaCrosse (midsize), and Cadillac XTS: 111.7 inches

    With a wheelbase shorter than 10 midsize models and exactly the same as the Impala and LaCrosse, clearly nobody is ever going to take the XTS seriously as a real full-size luxury sedan. It’s niche is for people that kind of like the CTS but are afraid of RWD and don’t want to spring for AWD, as well as the remaining market that traditionally bought the Deville & DTS.

    • 0 avatar
      Kyree S. Williams

      Although the Cadillac XTS packages things well for its not-so-generous wheelbase, your point is an excellent one. The XTS is competition for the Acura RLX, Lincoln MKS, and the woefully-outdated Volvo S80…all of which occupy a “comfort-luxury” class. And it’s fine for Cadillac to have such a car, both to retain current buyers and lure in new ones…but it can’t hold a candle to heavyweights like the S-Class, A8, XJ, 7-Series and LS. And if you’ve noticed, the luxury brands that are having identity issues lack this class of car, like Volvo, Acura, Infiniti and Lincoln. The only luxury brand that could swing either way at this moment (toward Lincoln obscurity or toward Lexus desirability) is Cadillac. A proper RWD flagship lends credibility. And that’s why Cadillac should have one.

    • 0 avatar
      tuffjuff

      See, wheelbase isn’t everything. It’s all about how you use the space.

      My father in law’s Jaguar XJL (a 2007, so last-gen) may have a nearly 125 inch wheelbase, but jesus that thing is cramped on the inside.

    • 0 avatar
      tikki50

      yep, because they should have used a proper platform instead of having massive overhang. That’ why the wheelbase is short. It wasn’t by design, it was done for cost savings which is a no-no on a top tier car.

  • avatar
    CRConrad

    “Will build large RWD flagship, but not the Ciel” — Oh goody, so they’ll build the Sixteen!

    (Proof by Fate-disguised-as-randomness: There were Sixteen comments as I wrote this.)

  • avatar
    Mikein08

    Let’s hope this new Caddy isn’t as ugly as that pos in the picture …

  • avatar
    Zackman

    This sounds very interesting. Now I just hope they won’t make it look like a Sonata…

    I’ll hold judgment until I see one at an auto show in a year or two.

  • avatar

    He didn’t say anything that wasn’t known, and USAT didn’t really flesh it out much. It’s coming, it’s based on the new Omega platform which is in turn derived from Alpha, it’s benchmarked vs the S-Class and 7-Series and A8, and it’ll be one big step up from the new CTS in the same way that the new CTS is one big step up from the ATS. I have heard both “ZTS” and “Fleetwood” as potential model names for this thing; I suspect it will end up being called something else. “STS” is not outside of the realm of possibility.

    As I understand it, what’s actually going on is that there was supposed to be one more top-end Cadillac that was above this new big sedan, but they sent the program back to the drawing board — not because they’re cheapskates, but because they decided it wasn’t really all that much nicer than the new big sedan, and they needed to think about how to make a larger statement.

    There is an awful lot of deep thought going on with Cadillac within GM. This is a very, very interesting, very long-range program.

    • 0 avatar
      Lie2me

      I agree, but I also agree with tuffjuff in that Cadillac is whoafully lacking in the luxury CUV segment with the so so,meh, SRX. So, with all this concentration on a large “halo” sedan, I just hope they’re not neglecting a crucial segment that BMW already has five offerings in

      • 0 avatar

        I have no specifics to report, but I have heard enough hints from enough GM executives to know that they’re on the case and there’s more than one Cadillac CUV under development, and I’m not talking about the next-gen Escalade (which is also coming, and which is going to be a much more upscale-feeling, much less blingy product than its predecessors, with much bigger differentiation vs the Yukon.)

      • 0 avatar
        tuffjuff

        I *REALLY* hope when GM redoes Theta in the next year or two the SRX gets the love it deserves. I don’t have a ton of experience with the vehicle, but I know the dash material is uncompetitive (one of my main complaints about my ’13 Equinox is the amount of squeaks and rattles after only 6 months of ownership) and I can’t imagine they would’ve changed the other questionable interior details (i.e. the adjustable rear seat, which sometimes rattles, or the drive side B pillar molding, or what’s behind it, which lightly squeaks, often, and drives me slowly insane) enough to warrant the price tag. That said, the design is 4 years old, and cars often get better with each revision….

    • 0 avatar
      alexndr333

      I’m no product planner, but it seems to me that a simple shift in GM’s CUV product line would be to move the current SRX platform to Buick for a direct Lexus RX competitor and build the next mid-size Cadillac CUV off the Alpha platform. A V-sport rear-drive / all-drive SRX would then be possible – and even a V-series if the market showed interest.

      • 0 avatar
        Kyree S. Williams

        I wouldn’t consider the SRX to be any better than the other soft-CUV luxury vehicles on the market…namely the X3, RX, XC60, RDX and MKX (too many X’s). But I’m thinking that Cadillac should keep the SRX and supplement it with a vehicle that competes in the highly-profitable rugged-CUV market…the one occupied by the X5, Touareg/Q7/Cayenne, Range Rover Sport, ML-Class and previous-gen MDX. It would be the first American car to do so, but what a car it would be. It would lend a lot of credibility to the brand, and it could also be as world-class as most of the aforementioned competitors.

        • 0 avatar
          Lie2me

          +1 Exactly, we have nothing that competes with those cars and those are the cars people want

          • 0 avatar
            Kyree S. Williams

            And even when you consider non-luxury rugged CUVs, GM doesn’t have an entry. All they have are the Lambda crossovers (Traverse, Acadia, Enclave), which are basically minivans without the sliding doors. Meanwhile, the Ford Explorer and Jeep Grand Cherokee have been very successful, especially among the fashionable crowd.

  • avatar
    EBradley

    I’m confused about all the derision directed at the XTS. We are a professional couple in our late 30′s/early 40′s and found it to be an excellent fit for what we wanted in a new car. Our requirements were to stay under 70k, have generous room, be quiet and comfortable, an excellent ride and be packed with technology. This car wasn’t even a consideration at first. However, after looking at the BMW 5 series, the Audi A6, the MB E class and the Jaguar XF, it became the obvious choice. The interiors of the BMW and MB felt cheap at those prices. The Audi was not back seat friendly (we need something comfortable for our elderly parents). The Jag was nice. However, to match the XTS interior, it soon shot way over budget. That seemed a common theme across the board as well. The base prices on the competition seemed competitive, until you really started adding options.

    This is our first American car. We’ve always defaulted to BMW, MB, Jaguar or Land Rover. At this point in our lives, we thought ‘Why not?’ Worse case, it can’t be any worse than a Range Rover. So, we bought a AWD Platinum. So far, it’s a really REALLY great car. We love CUE. It’s very quiet with great seats. You can’t beat this car on a long trip. Oh, and it runs on regular gas!

    We thought we’d get grief from our friends who’d NEVER consider an American car. Quite the opposite actually. This car has really changed a few minds. If, and that’s the biggest issue here -IF, Cadillac can keep making products like this, they will take sales away and be successful.

    As was pointed out, Lexus used to be ok on their styling but was always ‘Wow!’ on the inside. The new crop isn’t like this at all. A Lexus owner was wishing the interiors were still that nice but you can see the cost cutting, especially in the new ES and GS. The XTS has that ‘Wow!’ factor. It may not be what enthusiasts want. However, in our demographic, it is and Cadillac is making an impression.

    • 0 avatar
      tuffjuff

      Something that really isn’t appreciated enough until you don’t have it is the ability to run on NOT premium. Most of the vehicles I’m looking at to replace my ’13 Equinox (two row luxury CUVs) taken premium. Ugh.

    • 0 avatar
      sckid213

      Thanks for sharing; great post from someone who actually BOUGHT an XTS.

      Rest assured that derision toward the XTS is only coming from enthusiasts on websites like this who like to nitpick. I’ve noticed that in the real world, amongst the demographic that is actually the target audience for this car (like yourself), the car is very well-received, for the reasons you noted in your post.

      I’m about 10 years younger than you and have a current-gen CTS. Like your XTS, it’s changed a lot of minds amongst my peers. It’s almost as if everyone is too afraid to deviate from the German / Japanese luxury brands. I was the guinea pig to take the plunge and I’ve been very happy with the car.

      One think I like about present-day Cadillac is that they are showing TANGIBLE forward progress with each new model they release. Each new model is a very significant and much improved version of previous models. You can see and feel the difference, in interior quality, fit and finish, and driving dynamics. Meanwhile, the German and Japanese brands seem to have “topped out,” and the new models seem the same as before, with some changes for the sake of change, and in some cases, a cheapening over previous models. I agree that the interiors of new Lexus models don’t seem as “premium” as prior models, even if the prior models’ interior design was a bit “nineties.”

      It’s cool to see Cadillac “coming up.” They have a lot of ground to make up, and so far they’re doing it. I appreciate the brand’s focus, constraint, and what appears to be a genuine effort to truly improve to be among the world’s best.

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        tuffjuff

        I think the thing that takes some work to get over is if you have the money for a Mercedes, you kind’ve want to buy a Mercedes. It’s like, I’m finally going to spend X amount, and look what kind of vehicles I can afford!

        Whether you get more for your money with a Mercedes is another story (here’s a hint: you probably don’t).

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      Kyree S. Williams

      The XTS is a great take on what an American luxury car should be and I would love to own one; it’s roomy, sophisticated, comfortable, luxurious…and no slouch. Also, I didn’t have an issue with CUE when I sampled it, either….but that was only during a 15-minute test drive. Still, the XTS isn’t flagship material if GM really wants to run with the Europeans.

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    walker42

    Smart move on Cadillac’s part. Use the Ciel design language but not the open air feature, that would have limited sales. I remember when GM announced they weren’t doing the Ciel everyone was disappointed but I said you watch they will do a flagship just not the Ciel. Trust me Lincoln is working on one too. No brainer of the day.

  • avatar
    CUINCT

    Ciel, Sixteen… Cadillac knows how to design a large imposing Cadillac… apparently they can’t figure out what to power it with…. maybe they ought to stick with a corvette engine and be done with it already.


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