By on June 19, 2013

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Hours after I longed for a return of the Fiat Multipla, Fiat delivered. The 500L Living will be a true MPV, carrying seven. The last Multipla only carried six. It will be a bit longer than our 500L and have the option of a 0.9L TwinAir engine, two diesels or a naturally aspirated 1.4L gasoline engine making 95 horsepower. I’ll pass. It’s not ugly enough to stoke my boiler. But it’s not coming to North America anyways.

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24 Comments on “Will The Real Fiat Multipla Please Stand Up...”


  • avatar
    philadlj

    Some may bemoan Fiat seemingly going the way of MINI by expanding with larger and arguably odder-looking models, but to them I say two things:

    1.) Mini never had a largish, odd-looking MPV. Fiat certainly did. There’s precedent.
    2.) Fiat dealers can’t survive with just the 500.

    • 0 avatar
      ash78

      Perfect points, both. Mini is doing it the freakish way, pretending to create larger variants on a name that implies smallness (and whose design language doesn’t scale well, IMO).

      Fiat, otoh, is hopefully just testing the waters for a more full-scale US presence in the next decade. I welcome the alternative!

      But if Europeans think VW is a reliable brand and Fiat isn’t, I’m a little fearful of how the whole thing will go over in the US…

    • 0 avatar
      th009

      The Fiat dealers in Europe have other models to sell as well (well, at least the Panda …). In North America they only have the 500, but then this model isn’t coming here.

  • avatar
    Austin Greene

    Das Auto.

  • avatar

    Ilable to me, and if I had the cash, this would surely be on my short list. As you can see from my avatar, I’m a father of a little boy. A minivan makes all kind of sense. Even the regular 500L would float my boat. Bring it to Brazil, Fiat. You need to.

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    I would be very afraid to try and take that on a US interstate. No way you’d be up to speed if the entrance ramp was one of the shorter ones.

    • 0 avatar
      krhodes1

      And yet millions of people somehow managed to drive sub-100hp original Chrysler Minivans all over the US, even on short onramps. Sheesh.

      And I will clue you in to something – you have not SEEN short on and off ramps until you have driven in Europe. And the highway traffic is MUCH faster than here, but people drive slower cars on average. And yet they survive just fine. The trick is they actually know how to find full throttle, which the average American can’t seem to find with GPS.

      • 0 avatar
        bball40dtw

        Hey, we find full throttle right before we launch our C250s into trees at 4 am. Too soon?

      • 0 avatar
        VA Terrapin

        The original Chrysler minivan came out not long after the malaise era of big, American barges with V8 engines that made as much power as naturally aspirated I4 engines from a decade ago.

        It’s a good thing that vehicles have progressed in all sorts of areas including power. It’s also good that foreign car companies don’t bring their wimpiest vehicles that make a Prius look like a muscle car.

        As for Europe, let their government officials force their people to settle for small displacement, smog producing, low power diesels and even weaker gas powered equivalents for the sake of reducing greenhouse gas emissions. As long as they don’t spread their idiocy outside their borders, I could care less.

        • 0 avatar
          krhodes1

          Nobody in Europe is FORCED to do anything. If you want a big engine, you can have one. Choice of several, in most cases. If you want a small one, you have a choice of several, want a diesel, here are your choices for that. But you pay to play, which is how it should be.

          Judging by the number of cars that left me for dead on the Autobahn two years ago, plenty of people are willing and able to pay.

          • 0 avatar

            Oh krhodes1, don’t pop their bubble! They could be killed by the fresh air!

          • 0 avatar
            VA Terrapin

            I didn’t say EU bureaucrats are trying to ban high powered, high CO2 emitting cars. But with carbon taxes, fleet average emissions targets and taxes favoring diesel over gas, it’s obvious that EU bureaucrats would rather have their underlings drive wimpy, low powered cars, preferably with diesel engines.

            As for Germany, it’s somewhat the exception in Europe due to its car culture and its economic reliance on exporting high powered, high CO2 emitting, premium cars. Meanwhile, the EU and even some German politicians continue to put pressure on Germany to “reform” its high CO2 car culture by proposing speed limits on all of the Autobahn and by imposing fleet average carbon limits.

  • avatar
    Egroeg1000

    When do you stop measuring displacement in liters?
    Is that actually a 900 ml TwinAir powerplant?
    Earthier way, uphill onramps are going to be interesting…

    • 0 avatar

      Yes it is. 0.9L of competence according to an overwhelming majority of reports. Rumor has it, it’s coming to Brazil next year. Get back to you when I get to taste it.

      • 0 avatar
        wmba

        Marcelo, can Fiat do nothing wrong in your mind? Holy Cow, man, they should hire you for the boosterism factor of multiple posts whenever the name Fiat is even hinted at!

        I find them ordinary at best, except for the Abarth. The Twinair has disastrous fuel economy as five minutes with Google will show you, and Pattakon shows how the MultiAir concept is incorrectly implemented which is why the 500 gets only so so economy.

        Just saying, there’s more to automotive life than Fiat! Try another brand for a refreshing change!

        • 0 avatar

          Hey wmba!

          I find what you say funny given than I don’t even own a Fiat nowadays. Nowadays we have a Renault and a Ford. Having said that of the Brazilian Fiat line, I would buy 500, Uno, Doblò. Wouldn’t buy Punto, Palio, Palio SW, Siena, Mille, Journey, Strada, Idea, Linea. So 3 out of 12. Hardly fanboyish. Would buy those cars cause I think they’re better than competition. The others I wouldn’t cause I think the competition offers better options.

          I have had various Fiats over my life. 50% of my cars have been Fiats. They’re fun to drive, easy to maintain and very reliable. Never left stranded by one, but I have been stranded by a Renault and a Ford, yet I have a car from each. Go figure.

          Right now, besides those Fiat cars I’d buy some Fords, Renaults, and, to my endless wonder, some GMs. Right now, nothing in PSA, VW, the Japanese and Koreans entice me. For a variety of factors. In German cars, I find their interiors and exteriors boring and stark, ride punishing. The Japanese cars bore me to death and are ugly (though I could see myself in some Nissans) and the Korean cars have bad rides, and an interior and exterior I simply don’t like.

          In recent memory I have talked badly of the Fiat idea, on this or the other 500L article, I’ve talked badly of the Fiat Journey. I have talked badly of the e.torq Fiat engines. The TwinAirs I have no personal experience with, but I have seen under development and testing at the Brazilian Fiat factory and I like what the engineers say of it very much.

          Finally, most of my positive comments on Fiat of late have come when the 500 family comes up. I like the regular 500 very much. I think th 500L looks way too good and would be a very welcome sight in my garage or Brazilian streets. Small engines don’t bother me, slow cars don’t bother me. I like what I like. YMMV.

    • 0 avatar
      davefromcalgary

      In powersports, sub 1L engines are called out in cubic centimeters, cc, not mL. 0.9L or 900 cc makes sense to me.

  • avatar
    Speed3

    It looks better stretched, but who knows how well the 500L will do in the US anyway. Also Derek, “anyways” is not a word ;-)

  • avatar
    NN

    Pretend for a moment that this design were scaled up, to be bigger than the Mazda 5, smaller than a Caravan (maybe original Honda Odyssey size). And give it sliding rear doors (and the multijet engine from the Dart). Then you have something that would really work…an affordable minivan that is also extremely stylish, with a cool/different brand. That would be unique, for once…a cool minivan, modern day VW Microbus of sorts.

  • avatar
    YellowDuck

    “It will be a bit longer than our 500L and have the option of a 0.9L TwinAir engine, two diesels or a naturally aspirated 1.4L gasoline engine making 95 horsepower.”

    I’ll take the one with two diesels!

  • avatar
    jkross22

    What a cool looking thing. Fiat, listen, all 10 of us wagon owners with 3 pedals would love to have this type of thing.

    Stick an auto in it for the masses, but make it a special order option for a stick and price it like a CX5, and in 2 yrs, I’ll be in line. I’ll even do Euro delivery, as there wouldn’t be a better excuse for an Italian vacation.

    But please call MB and see if you can get a hold of their 2.1L Diesel they’re sticking in the GLK. I’ve heard that it’s a beast and gets schwing inducing mileage.

    The Mini Countryman was a good idea, but the design isn’t nearly as appealing as what you folks at Fiat made with this.

    Giddy up!


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