By on October 3, 2012

I don’t have any particular bias against American cars, but it’s fair to say that I’ve always preferred imports over American muscle, save for one major exception; the GMC Typhoon.

The first model car kit I ever built with my Dad was a GMC Syclone, and as I learned about the cars over the years, my interest has only deepened. Here is a relatively crude package, based on a BOF truck platform, that was one of the fastest accelerating cars at the time, and can still keep pace with a lot of today’s performance cars.

Every so often, I check the internet for Typhoons, then talk myself out of it. I would need to store it in winter, be extra careful not to damage the now-irreplaceable factory cladding and be extra careful with using the twin-turbo AWD drivetrain at every single stoplight.

My most recent Ebay foray led me to the Typhoon you see above. Priced rather optimistically at $99,999 OBO, it has just 9.6 miles on it, making it essentially brand new. I wouldn’t even want it. Every time you drive it, it depreciates incrementally and loses that “preserved in frozen carbonite” mystique that made it so special. Give me a nicely broken-in example, even with 6 figures on the odometer. If it cleans up nicely and everything’s in good working order, that’s fine by me. I know there are others out there who need to have that all-original, delivery miles-and-window-sticker garage queen. But I’m not one of them. Are you?

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66 Comments on “QOTD: Garage Queen Or Daily Driver?...”


  • avatar
    Easton

    At $100 grand this guy is either insane or, more likely, just fishing the market with no real intention to sell. It’s a rare vehicle that has a very committed cult following, but I agree, I couldn’t stand the chewing guilt that would come with watching the odometer tick away. My late grandfather was a Pontiac-Buick-GMC dealer for several decades and told me and my father of a gentleman in my hometown who bought a brand new 1987 Grand National, left the plastic on the seats, drove it directly to a storage unit where it remained in peaceful slumber for what was 20 years at the time I heard the story. I have no idea if the car is still around but it always seemed like such a waste to me.

  • avatar
    dts187

    I would never buy a car I didn’t intend to drive. Especially a performance oriented vehicle.

    • 0 avatar
      EAM3

      I never understood people’s attitude towards over preserving a car. Drive it, enjoy it, use it for what it was meant to do. If you don’t, the next owner will. Life is too short, drive the hell out of fun cars.

      • 0 avatar
        toxicroach

        I don’t get why people buy comics to keep them in plastic either. Some kind off hoarding instinct tied with some kind of sense of historical importance I guess.

        I never heard of the Typhoon before this, it looks like the porno star version of a Trailblazer, the photo does not impress me. At 100,000 this car trawling for some moron who has been driven temporarily insane by the knowledge he has a quarter million bucks in his 401(k).

        Pass for either purpose. Pass for any purpose.

      • 0 avatar
        texan01

        +1

        I bought a low-ish mileage 77 Chevelle 3 years ago. It was over 100,000 miles but less than 150,000 but no one knows because the speedocable was broken. So far in those 3 years, I’ve put about 45,000 miles on it that thing. It’s my garage queen, but its no trailer queen, and it may go a week or two without seeing the sunlight, and then get driven daily for the next two weeks.

        I don’t see the logic in having a car you are afraid to drive.

      • 0 avatar
        redav

        I understand ‘preserving’ a car–meaning taking care of it so that it will last indefinitely–but not locking it away not to be used.

        If you don’t drive it, all you can do is look at it, and in that case, don’t buy it. Just go to shows & museums.

      • 0 avatar
        SteveMar

        I am totally with you on this one. Last winter, I bought an ’82 Prelude – admittedly, pretty rare in the rust belt, particularly in the condition it was in, but by no means a real “collector” car. I took to a show last weekend for the first time and got compliments – it has 140K miles and looks like it has only a fraction of those miles with original paint and interior. One guy couldn’t believe that I used it as a regular driver in the warmer weather. My response was just the same – why buy a fun car, collector or otherwise, and then not be able to enjoy it. Every sunny warm day I open the sunroof on my Prelude brings a smile to my face. Why not bring it out when the weather cooperates?

      • 0 avatar
        raph

        Indeed, its like having a hot wife and just looking at her from across the room afraid your gonna bruise something. I’ve got nearly 43k on my 09 GT500.

  • avatar
    wstarvingteacher

    This would be a bad deal under just about any circumstances.

  • avatar
    86er

    Everything around the engine is of questionable material, and how would you ever find anything for the turbos if one of them calved on you?

    No, this is an open-and-shut Garage Queen. This is for the millionaire with a seven-car garage outside of Scottsdale, Arizona to load up in an enclosed trailer and take to specialty events.

    • 0 avatar
      tresmonos

      Ebay has the mitsubishi turbo’s for 800 shipped. The block isn’t anything special, the intercooler can be replaced… it’s a parts bin car not including the specific trim. Even the AWD Borg transfer case was used on AWD Astro’s.

  • avatar
    KixStart

    I’m unfamiliar with the history of the Typhoon.

    However, here’s the thing I find relevant to a purchase decision.

    If someone unfamiliar with the vehicle were to go to a car show and see it parked there, what would that person likely do?

    From that perspective, it’s got ugly plastic additions to an originally homely vehicle the only real performance pretension comes from the turbos. I think most people would glance at it and keep right on walking.

    If you like the car and can afford to take out, drive it around and occasionally startle the unsuspecting in ad-hoc drag races, then go for it.

    But buying it to keep and occasionally display for others to admire? No.

  • avatar
    DenverMike

    I may see it as ridiculous, but the asking price is in line with GNX’ in still new condition. If did buy it, it would be to daily drive and abuse.

  • avatar
    gearhead77

    If I had the garage space and the pocketbook for it, then maybe I’d want a garage queen. But only maybe, sharing the sentiment that cars are meant for driving, not sitting around.

    I like the Typhoon/Syclone for what they were. Fast,crude, but also ahead of their time. Performance SUV from the factory? Not in the early 90′s unless it was one of these. But I wouldn’t want the one pictured. It’s red, I don’t do red cars.

    I believe the quote from C&D, referring to the Syclone, was: ” Can’t tow, can’t carry a load. Yep, the only thing this truck hauls is ass”

    Time warp, yes. 100k? No, but maybe in 10 years with the same 9 miles on it.

    • 0 avatar
      golden2husky

      You either get the preservation thing or you don’t. I would love to buy two copies of a special car. One to drive, one to preserve. There is just something special about preservation; the feeling you get from looking at a piece of history, protected and as beautiful as the day it was made. Then again, a really fun performance car begs to be driven, so I think the magic number is two.

  • avatar

    A couple things:

    a. I’m not equipped to be a GQ car collector. Anything I’d buy would be to enjoy, not shrinkwrap. I crave a C1 Corvette, but the gigamillion, numbers-matching, assembly-line stickered show car doesn’t appeal to me at all. I’ll take a well-loved, restored, shiny one to drive a lot. Even with a modern LS-whatever drivetrain.

    b. I attended a GMC publicity event for these vehicles at Texas Stadium in the 90′s, and had a blast with them. Way out of the norm for GMC at the time, it seemed to me.

  • avatar
    DC Bruce

    There are a very few cars which justifiably are called “classics.” The fact that few examples of a car were produced does not make it a “classic.” In fact some classic cars were produced in large numbers, e.g. the ’55 and ’57 Chevy sedans.

    The only purpose the rest of these “preserved in amber” vehicles serve is to remind those who drag them out on the street after having been in mothballs for 20+ years is to prove how much better today’s cars are.

    As far as I am concerned, the Typhoon is the answer to a question that nobody asked.

  • avatar
    Slab

    How does a vehicle get from the factory to someone’s house with less than 10 miles on the Odo? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a new car with less than 30 miles on it.

  • avatar
    jacob_coulter

    Typhoons are one of my favorite vehicles of all time, I remember as a high schooler in the early 90′s, a friend’s Dad had one. I had no idea what they were (though I was a car nut, it had somehow slipped under my radar). I couldn’t believe how fast they were, it was like getting launched from a slingshot with the AWD. I like the look, even though the whole monochromatic style is dated. I still can’t believe GM even made this vehicle.

    The “zero” mileage garage queens are absurd, and even if I was stupid rich, I couldn’t see myself buying one because you simply can’t enjoy it. But I am glad there’s freaks out there that do, it’s nice having a few time capsules around to admire and bring back nostalgia.

  • avatar
    corntrollio

    I understand the impulse to keep low mileage on a rare vehicle, but not that low. These are definitely rare vehicles, with fewer than 5000 produced over the two years of production, but they’re not even visually interesting cars, and they have an extremely low-rent interior. For the powertrain alone, which is the only part of this car that is interesting, if I were in this position, I’d rather have put 30,000 miles on this beast and enjoyed it on occasion, rather than garage-queened an otherwise crappy car.

    I bet for every Grand National, which actually does fetch a decent price (a lot of them are listed in the $20-30K range on Ebay, although there is one with under 500 miles listed for 80 grand right now), you have a few Saab 9-4Xs (under 600 produced) that people keep as garage queens thinking it will be worth something one day. Most cars are depreciating assets, and I bet a lot of people make bad “investment” decisions in this area too.

    I suppose someone who would buy such an “investment” for an exorbitant price wouldn’t care that the car probably won’t run without some reconditioning from having sat idle for so long. Easton — did the guy in your story actually check on the car once in a while to make sure nothing catastrophic was happening to it in storage? The rotting cars of Brunei come to mind.

    For the record, this car was around $30K new, which adjusted for inflation is a little under $48K. If you had invested $30K in, let’s say, the S&P 500 in January 1993, you would have had $136K in June (the statistical source I looked at stopped in June). And the owner of this car would have had the exact same driving experience too, had he done that.

  • avatar
    Land Ark

    I bought a 2006 GTO this summer and I purposely bought one with reasonable miles on it because I want to drive it and not feel guilty about it.
    I very breifly (46 hours) owned one with 7,000 miles on it but changed my mind after thinking about how much it cost and how little I’d want to actually drive it.
    You can find ridiculously low mileage ones any day and pay $25,000 for it. I got mine for $10k less with 39,000 miles. It now has almost 42,000 miles and that’s how it should be.

    I was also looking at Typhoons (which I prefer to the Syclone) but they seem to have a bit of old super-car-itis being relatively cheap to get into but parts prices and maintenance has to be outrageous.

  • avatar
    tbhride

    Don’t store ‘em, drive ‘em!

    I saw a Syclone driving around DC a couple of weeks ago and it was far from mint condition. It was in pretty good shape but you could tell the guy has been driving it for years, possibly even as a daily driver. It made me smile!

  • avatar
    sfbiker

    Here ya go.

    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/3264739783.html

    I can’t really tell if it’s been slammed, but it’s rust-free, running, has 104k, and he wants $10k, which I think is still a bit optimistic.

  • avatar
    sfbiker

    And for that matter, here’s a Syclone with 60k. He wants $14.5.

    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/3303038694.html

  • avatar
    danio3834

    Garage queens like this Typhoon are for collectors, not enthusiasts.

    You can be a collector and an enthusiast, but if you’re just an enthusiast, get the clean one with some mileage and save yourself the coin and worry over the garage queen.

    I certainly can’t fault collectors, they preserve some very interesting machinery that might have otherwise been thrashed then trashed.

    Collector garage queens can also bee good investments if bought right. I have a collection of enthusiast cars which get tracked and driven. At least they’re enthusiastic to me.

    Once I put up another building aside from the shop, with heated concrete floors and rodent control, I’ll consider buying collector garage queens.

  • avatar
    tresmonos

    My ‘fun’ car is a garage queen by circumstance, not choice. I’m always fixing something or traveling too much to appreciate it.

  • avatar
    CJinSD

    The next most expensive Typhoon on ebay has a buy-it-now price of $15,000 and 39K one owner miles. Typhoons can last up to 100K gently driven miles before the drivetrain needs extensive work, so you could have a fair amount of fun with a 39K one while only losing about ten grand in value when you sell it on as a project.

  • avatar
    mikeg216

    If you buy a a used one obviously not in investment grade, you go forth and hoon my son. Like general motors and 8 pound 6 ounce white baby jesus intended.

  • avatar
    weneversleep

    The best expression of the garage queen ethic that I’ve ever seen:

    http://gm-classics.com

    I love going to this guy’s site and looking through his collection. Don’t miss his “sold but not forgotten” section.

    I showed my wife some of his cars; she said he’s nuts. I like the idea of a 1989 Caprice Brougham that has never been driven.

  • avatar
    mikey

    I own a 2008 Mustang V6 base model converible. I bought it used, and its not perfect. I drive it whenever weather permits. When not being driven,such as in the five months of winter,the Mustang lives in my two car garage. I also have a new 2011 Camaro SS2, 426 HP and 6 speed stick. I drive the Camaro pretty well most of the other time.

    I can’t get the Camaro and the Mustang to both fit into the garage. Its just too cramped. I’d also have to give up my man cave.That isn’t going to work. One of the cars has to live outside in the winter. I’m certainly not going to drive the Camaro in the slush and snow/salt. I figure with all the extra warrantys I bought, the Camaro can sit outside. My wife dosn’t drive, so I got her Cobalt for the real bad days.

    I bought that Camaro just for the pleasure I get out of driving it. Like all my vehicles, it gets washed,vacumed,and this one will be dealer maintained. When the warranty has run out,the Camaro goes. Somebody will get a real nice,but not a perfect car.

    • 0 avatar
      Zackman

      Livin’ large, my friend, livin’ large!

    • 0 avatar
      mnm4ever

      So you baby your base model V6 Mustang convertible, and leave your new SS2 Camaro out in the weather, to drive when the weather isn’t nice enough for your old Mustang?? And in 5 yrs when there in no warranty, you have every intention of selling the Camaro but keeping the Mustang? Really??

      That doesn’t make any sense. If you know you want to sell the Camaro eventually, why let it get more abused than the Mustang, which isn’t really worth much now and will be worth much less in 5 yrs? People do not want to buy “nice, but not perfect” used cars, especially when it is an enthusiasts car like a Camaro SS. Do you see all the old “nice but not perfect” Camaros for sale that they cannot give away? And then the 10% or so that someone really took care of and are now selling for double what those daily driven ones go for?

      Put your Camaro in the garage, sell the Mustang, and use the Cobalt for the winter driving. Actually, if your man cave is half of a two car garage and you are making your wife park her car outside in the winter, then you my friend cannot actually afford a man cave. Let your poor wife park inside too.

      • 0 avatar
        krhodes1

        His wife doesn’t drive, so the Cobalt is now his winter beater. As to the Mustang vs. Camaro, I hope Mikey answers, because I find that fascinating.

        Ultimately the trick is to buy the right size garage. I found a 1200sq/ft house with a 3700sq/ft garage behind it. Fits four cars comfortably for summer, even with a lift in one bay, and five in the winter when I only need to get two in and out regularly. Still too small though, will be adding on a 4th “shop” bay in the next year or two.

      • 0 avatar
        mikey

        @mnm4ever…Wifey dosn’t drive anymore. The Cobalt is our mule I keep it clean, serviced and yearly oil sprayed. I really like the Mustang,and would have no problem finding a buyer. I just don’t want to part with it.

        The Camaro is a very cool car, lots of power,very pretty,and I love driving it. I figure,that if I keep the Camaro parked during the slushy/salty days ,it should hold up fairly well. In five or six years it may have 50K KLMS = 35K in miles.

        I guy in his sixties, selling a 6 year old, one owner Camaro? No mods. With the right price tag? My phone will be ringing off the hook.

        Around here, unmodified 6cyl Mustang rag tops are fetching top dollar. I don’t see that changing.

        The question that is being asked,is it worthwhile to have a real nice car to park in the garage and look at it?

        For some….I guess it is.

      • 0 avatar
        mnm4ever

        No, the question is, is it worthwhile to have a real nice car to park out in the snow and slush and look at it… to which the answer is NO. You can drive it whether or not you park it in the garage. You seem to be turning the Mustang into a garage queen for little return.

        I realize you are in Canada, so things might be different, even weird. But I simply do not believe that base model V6 Mustangs are suddenly worth tons of money in a place where it snows most of the year. Here in Florida, where we can use them year round, V6 Mustangs, even convertibles, are dime a dozen, rental grade cars that no one wants. Esp the pre-2011 ones.

        But thats not even the point. Who cares if you can find a buyer or not. For the right price you can find a buyer for almost anything. My point is that if you take better care of the Camaro you will get MORE money for it.

        If you can truly get “top dollar” for the convertible, you should sell it, park the Camaro inside and drive it on nice days, use the Cobalt for bad days, then sell the Camaro in 5 yrs as planned. THEN come down to Florida and buy another newer, nicer Mustang. A 5yr old 2011 or 2012 V6 convertible Mustang will be very cheap then, and will beat the pants off your 2008.

      • 0 avatar
        mnm4ever

        @krhodes — I am jealous of your garage! That is exactly what my wife and I are looking for now, as the kids are close to leaving home, we do not need a big house, but its hard to find a small house with a big garage! We have been looking for houses with separate workshops like you described, and a small attached garage for my wife.

        3700sf isn’t enough though?? My garage is a large 3-car and its 800sf, you have more than 4 times the room. If it was double depth at 1600sf it would easily fit 6 cars with room to spare for the workshop area I already have. Where does all that room go??

      • 0 avatar
        mikey

        Just so we can set the record straight, it snows for about 4 months where I live. Our local Black Book shows my Mustang at $17,500. It not a case of us being weird,we are just different.

        Snow is no different from rain,is does very little damage. Salt, on the other hand is a killer.

        For now,I see no reason to change my plans.

        Theres an upside to being an old guy. You can do whatever to f–you want. So if somebody thinks “your just stupid old f—r?

        Well? ……so be it.

      • 0 avatar
        krhodes1

        @mmm4ever

        It’s 2 stories tall, the upstairs is storage. So I have ~1800sq/ft to park cars in. And a snow blower, and a BIG garden tractor, and a ton of tools and such. 3 bays, all double deep, one nearly double wide as well where the staircase to upstairs is. BUT the center bay has a 4-post lift, and there is a 30′x3′ workbench across part of the back wall. If I didn’t have to work on cars, I could use the lift to park two small cars in that center bay, but I need to use it. Also, there is only 8′ of ceiling hieght. So I can park one car in each of the first two bays, and two small cars in the big bay. Or two sports cars plus my Grand Cherokee if I don’t have to get the small ones in or out easily over the winter. It’s not perfect, but I found it this way when I bought the place 12 years ago, and I could afford it at the tender age of 31 back then. I’ve since insulated it, and installed proper heat. A/C too. It’s a pretty nice shop to work in. I’m rehabbing a Porsche 924S this winter.

        But the master plan is to put a single-story 1 bay addition on with the 12′+ of ceiling hieght I need for a 2-post lift. This will be dedicated workshop space, all the tools and whatnot will be moved out of the main garage, and I will be easily able to store six cars and the power equipment in there. Barn doors on the workshop, to keep the overhead free. Just big enough for a car plus good workbenches and shelves on two sides. Hoping to be able to do that next year.

        Sounds like Mikey has the perfect plan for his two cars in his situation. You can’t leave a convertible out in the snow due to the inevitable leaks, but it won’t hurt the Camaro much at all. I’m guessing he has one of the old narrow 1950′s garages that just don’t work well with two modern good sized cars. And both of those have awkwardly long doors.

      • 0 avatar
        mnm4ever

        @mikey — well said, well said! :) And $17.5k for a base model 2008 Mustang huh? I should start an export business to Canada for all the old rentals we have here.

        @krhodes — Ah I see where the space goes. Sounds like you have a real good plan, and hopefully I can find something similar around here.

      • 0 avatar
        golden2husky

        It depends on the amount of storage space and what you want to do. I built my “Garage Mahal” replete with both radiant and forced hot air heat. Inside sits my first new car, a 1995 Probe GT 5 speed. My car has never been exposed to salt and snow. Underneath is clean, rust free and the factory paint marks and tags are still present. No door dings or damage of any kind. It looks like it is 2 years old. 70K miles, driven only for fun and trips. I wish is was a convertible Camaro, but who know….that may be the replacement car when February comes around. I was offered 6K for the Probe…not a bad deal.

  • avatar
    Zackman

    Our 2007 MX5 was becoming a garage-queen due to a few circumstances and we decided to downsize and sell it. It’s across the street, very highly maintained and driven daily by a very appreciative neighbor, and I can visit it anytime I like, like I did last Sunday.

    Believe it or not, I don’t miss it at all. If we ever buy another convertible, it’ll have a back seat. Besides, my new car is extremely happy parked in my side of the garage every night!

    I have nothing agaist garage-queens if they get driven regularly.

    Don’t get me started on trailer-queens, though – that gets my ire up…

  • avatar
    mnm4ever

    I prefer drivers to garage queens, I never could understand the value of a “numbers matching” car that has the original sticker someone stuck on it at the factory. Give me one that I can use without being afraid of reducing the next auction value.

    That being said, I can understand the GNX guys that stuck the car in storage for 20 yrs, preserving it to make a killing in the future. But what I love is the people who do this with otherwise undesirable cars, like that Dodge Omni with 20k miles that was posted somewhere recently. Why a Dodge Omni? Not even a GLH. Last year there was a guy locally selling a 1989 Pontial Firebird. Complete base model with an auto, v6, even had rollup windows. Literally showroom new, all the plastic coating on it, just as delivered. He wanted something like $8k for it, and it sold very fast.

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      You could probably do sick things with it, like drop in a 400 big block or LSx it to death. Can you do the same with the used cars of today?

      • 0 avatar
        mnm4ever

        I completely considered that, by the time I called it was already sold. But I could do the same thing to a 69 Firebird and it would be an infinitely cooler machine in the end. :)

    • 0 avatar
      dolorean

      “I prefer drivers to garage queens, I never could understand the value of a “numbers matching” car that has the original sticker someone stuck on it at the factory.”

      Four words my friend. Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance. The automobile as Art; Form over Function.

      However will defend yours and my view that cars are meant to be driven and enjoyed. A $100K, perfect matching numbers car would make me more NRVOUS than Cameron’s dad’s original Ferrari 250 GT California in the hands of Ferris Bueller.

      • 0 avatar
        mnm4ever

        Pebble Beach does absolutely nothing for me to be honest. It is probably my blue collar upbringing, but I just can’t appreciate prewar cars, or even insanely priced old Ferraris for that matter. I mean, sure, I can see its a beautiful car, but a million dollar car? Nah.

      • 0 avatar
        dolorean

        Agreed. The automobile as Art is just the cover for people who use these cars to claim as a tax write-off and the PBCdE as a charity. However, there is no way a GMC Typhoon will ever grace the putting-course green lawns of Pebble Beach; unless it was motored there by four human sized and obviously rabid hamsters wearing Flava-Flavs old clothes. Far too plebian.

  • avatar
    Lt.BrunoStachel

    @DK” and be extra careful with using the twin-turbo AWD drivetrain at every single stoplight.”

    Uh, you do know these were Single Turbo,don’t you?

    There’s a seperate class of car guy out there. They are the sole reason Barrett-Jackson,Mecum and Kruse exist. Well you really can’t call them car guys but maybe money guys. The only way they show their enthusiasm as far as the auto hobby goes is by spending money. They don’t care if they make money,don’t care if they loose money. All that matters is the attention. Ask them if that 69 Z/28 has factory A/C and they’ll most likely say “they all do!”. Ask them if this Typhoon has dual turbos and they’ll say” They all do!”. This truck will most likely be bought by another “money guy”.

    • 0 avatar
      mnm4ever

      +1!!

      What makes me really laugh is when these money guys talk about how they are “building a car”, when they are not building anything. They are paying someone obscene amounts of money to build it for them.

      Even if I had the money, I would be putting in the wrench time myself, thats the whole point. I will build my own car, anything I can do myself I will.

  • avatar
    Styles79

    I have an ’82 Celica XX (JDM Celica Supra). At the monent it’s a garage queen, because I’m doing some resto work, but it’s certainly not going to be a concourse car.

    My plans, once it’s on the road, hopefully mid-summer (southern hemisphere, so soon) is to drive it on weekends, to shows, club meets etc and just have some fun with it. It won’t be a daily driver because I have a company car for day to day.

    It currently has 90,000km on it, so I’m a litte wary of the fact that each trip will get it close to that 100,000km mark, but I think once I start driving it with some regularity I’ll probably not be so worried about that. That said I can’t see me getting to the 100k mark for quite a few years!

    • 0 avatar
      mnm4ever

      Not sure you guys understand what a garage queen is. Your Celica isn’t a garage queen because its parked in a garage while you restore it. Thats good honest car guy work.

      A garage queen is a car as described above, a perfect car either kept that way as new, or restored to as new condition and then never driven on real roads. Guys who trailer their cars to shows… trailer queens, garage queens, same thing. Just parking in a garage shows you take care of your cars well.

  • avatar

    The only thing keeping me from a toy car is a lack of garage. I can’t buy the six seat convertible from the mid 60′s that I’d like, and let the floorboards rot from water leaks.

    I will always have a soft spot for the Typhoon/Syclone trucks. I somehow ended up on a demo drive list, and spent time at a racetrack, where they demoed the AWD system by lining half the track with soap slicked rubber matting and the other side was normal tarmac.

    Think Nissan GT-R done to a GM tune.

  • avatar
    bkmurph

    Mr Kreindler, I say this with all due respect, as I quite enjoy reading your articles: That semicolon in your opening sentence, much like a hangnail, has got to go.

    “…but it’s fair to say that I’ve always preferred imports over American muscle, save for one major exception; the GMC Typhoon.”

    If “GMC Typhoon” is an apposition to “exception”, then a comma is all you need:

    “…save for one major exception, the GMC Typhoon.”

    If the punctuation mark, however, is syntactical-deductive or syntactical-descriptive in nature, then you can use a colon:

    “…save for one major exception: the GMC Typhoon.”

    I can’t think of any middle ground wherein a semicolon would be appropriate in your sentence. A semicolon is too strong of a break to introduce an apposition; a semicolon usually introduces an independent clause. Yet the semicolon is too weak of a break for a syntactical-descriptive modifier. Perhaps there is some convention of Canadian English I’m not familiar with? ;-/

    As to the question at hand, I’d pass on the $100 grand eBay queen (even if it were priced lower) and look for one, as you described, with somewhat higher mileage and wear. Keep it garaged, drive it on nice days, take care of it, and enjoy it. If all you do is preserve it for people to admire, then you’re sacrificing your own enjoyment for others’ enjoyment.

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    nrd515

    A friend of mine had a Syclone, it was a lot of fun, especially after it was modded by one of the local GN experts. I was looking to buy a Typhoon, but the money just wasn’t there. I see a couple of each of them almost every weekend. A black Syclone pulled up next to me at a light last Sunday. We gave each other thumbs up before the light changed.

    The one pictured makes me really wish I had stupid money, but I don’t, so… I avoid buying “new” guns that have never been cocked, etc, they are always insanely priced, and I don’t want to be the guy who does “whatever” the first time. I buy guns I can shoot, and cars I can drive.

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    A bit pricey for today’s market but give it time. The Syclone and Typhoon will always be collectible. My gut feeling is that they tended to be abused more than Grand National and GNX Buicks, so there are probably very few low mileage examples.

    Working the big car shows I get a bit of swag and when I have some kind of limited edition Hot Wheels or the like, I’ll give it to a kid that’s just old enough to know the difference between a toy and a collectible. Then I’ll tell the kid that they have the choice of playing with it as a toy, or not opening the blister pack and saving it as a collectible. We can mock people with time capsule trailer queens, but that’s just another facet of the hobby. Parked out back behind the DeSotos at the Orphan Car Show were a lot of pickup trucks and covered trailers. Yes, I love seeing cars driven, but the truth is that some cars are indeed historical artifacts and if they’re going to be preserved so we can enjoy them, their mileage will necessarily need to be limited.

    The truth, good or bad, is that if you want to see particular historic cars actually being driven, you’re going to have to show up very early for a car show so you can watch them be unloaded from their trailers and driven onto the show field.

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    daveainchina

    I’ve never heard of one with this low of mileage.

    I’d say this one belongs in a Museum. Drive the rest of them and then fix them and then drive them into the ground again.

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    Drive it. Period.

    I believe that the car actually would want it that way. Better to be used up than die in a garage fire at some douchebag’s condo.


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