The Last Days Of Saab

Steven Lang
by Steven Lang

What would you do with 900 Saabs?

That is the golden question that will be answered this Wednesday. Ally Financial, GM’s past and future finance arm, seized nearly 900 vehicles on the ports of New Jersey and California once Saab Cars North America missed payments on their outstanding loans. Much in the way of litigious discussions were pursued in U.S. Bankruptcy Court, and now the final axe of Saab dispossessory will be swung with an online hammer through GM’s SmartAuction web site.

Can you buy one?

The short answer is not directly. You can contact a Saab dealer and see whether they may be willing to purchase a little piece of Swedish engineering. The good news is that bids will only start at 50% MSRP. The bad news is many dealers still have inventory, and those that do will likely have a conflicted interest in letting you bypass their current inventory for something far, far away.

One interesting trivial tidbit. Back in 2003 I used to visit a Manheim sale called Baltimore Washington Auto Exchange. At the sale they had one vehicle, a Saab 9000, that had no history. There was no title. No Carfax report. No Autocheck. No NICB record (National Insurance Crime Bureau.) No one claimed ownership. It just sat until the auction decided to use it for a variety of menial tasks that needed to be done inside their auction.

Saab is auctioning off several 9-4X models that will apparently have no title as well.

Will they become parts cars? I don’t think so. I can easily see these vehicles getting bonded titles in the very near future. Also, sometimes I see dealers drive vehicles that were sold in Mexico only, such as the VW Bora, that were made to another country’s regualtions instead of our own. I’ve seen a few Latino dealers drive them, but never sell them. Perhaps those Saabs will experience a similar fate?

Would it be worth it to buy a Saab at say… a 40% discount off of MSRP? But no warranty?

Sweden has the krona instead of the Euro as their currency. Still, if the Euro takes a dive in the next few years, Sweden’s largest trade partner is the EU. So it stands that if the Euro weakens, parts may get cheaper. Which could be a great outcome for Saab owners since their replacement parts are usually never cheap.

But then you have the issue of defects. No TSB’s. No parent organization to orchestrate the recalls for a latent defect. Not to mention the fact that Saab wasn’t exactly well-funded in its final months.

I sense many Daewoo moments in the future. How about you? To buy? Or not to buy?

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  • Tree Trunk Tree Trunk on Jun 25, 2012

    I have been a happy owner of a orphan brand (Isuzu) for the past 10+ years. On the plus side parts availability has not been an issue at all, local part stores seems to have what I need even here in Alaska and if not there is always ebay. The negative is no resale value (not that there would be much for any other 1995) and no dealer support on few occasions that I have needed a complex engine electrical problem diagnosed. What would worry me with the Saab that this is a more complex car with more high tech feature than my old beater and also a relatively new models which limits aftermarket and salvage yard parts available.

  • Jackshap Jackshap on Nov 24, 2012

    Test drove the 9-3 car yesterday and I love it - BRAND NEW, no milage - out of the box.. The question is will I have an issue fixing this car when it needs it? I am looking into buying a warranty outside of the Saab Dealer package for around $2,200.00 and it covers 100K/5 year. The car is listing around 19,000.00. As I said it's a 9-3, fully loaded. First Saab, so any feedback on price/warranty/car would be awesome. Thanks in advance. How much can I negotiate around this price.

  • TheEndlessEnigma These cars were bought and hooned. This is a bomb waiting to go off in an owner's driveway.
  • Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Thankfully I don't have to deal with GDI issues in my Frontier. These cleaners should do well for me if I win.
  • Theflyersfan Serious answer time...Honda used to stand for excellence in auto engineering. Their first main claim to fame was the CVCC (we don't need a catalytic converter!) engine and it sent from there. Their suspensions, their VTEC engines, slick manual transmissions, even a stowing minivan seat, all theirs. But I think they've been coasting a bit lately. Yes, the Civic Type-R has a powerful small engine, but the Honda of old would have found a way to get more revs out of it and make it feel like an i-VTEC engine of old instead of any old turbo engine that can be found in a multitude of performance small cars. Their 1.5L turbo-4...well...have they ever figured out the oil dilution problems? Very un-Honda-like. Paint issues that still linger. Cheaper feeling interior trim. All things that fly in the face of what Honda once was. The only thing that they seem to have kept have been the sales staff that treat you with utter contempt for daring to walk into their inner sanctum and wanting a deal on something that isn't a bare-bones CR-V. So Honda, beat the rest of your Japanese and Korean rivals, and plug-in hybridize everything. If you want a relatively (in an engineering way) easy way to get ahead of the curve, raise the CAFE score, and have a major point to advertise, and be able to sell to those who can't plug in easily, sell them on something that will get, for example, 35% better mileage, plug in when you get a chance, and drives like a Honda. Bring back some of the engineering skills that Honda once stood for. And then start introducing a portfolio of EVs once people are more comfortable with the idea of plugging in. People seeing that they can easily use an EV for their daily errands with the gas engine never starting will eventually sell them on a future EV because that range anxiety will be lessened. The all EV leap is still a bridge too far, especially as recent sales numbers have shown. Baby steps. That's how you win people over.
  • Theflyersfan If this saves (or delays) an expensive carbon brushing off of the valves down the road, I'll take a case. I understand that can be a very expensive bit of scheduled maintenance.
  • Zipper69 A Mini should have 2 doors and 4 cylinders and tires the size of dinner plates.All else is puffery.
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