By on November 8, 2011

When Porsche “tuner” Uwe Gemballa was found dead and wrapped in cellophane late last year, everyone in the Porsche community expressed sympathy for his wife and friends. Nobody deserves to be killed the way Gemballa was.

On the other hand, however, at least the guy wasn’t going to ruin any more Porsches. His “Mirage” 911-slant-nose-arossa-droptops were perhaps the most hideous custom supercars ever built, and Gemballa himself never really appeared to develop anything even remotely resembling an aesthetic sense. His goal in life appeared to be to simply create terrible cars, and he was reasonably successful at this. Porsche purists hated the guy. There was only one thing he could have done for us to have hated him more: he could have turned his attentions towards the irreplaceable aircooled cars once again and ruined more of them.

Which is precisely what “RWB” does.

This hard-hitting piece by former Jalop Davey Johnson covers one of the first two “RWB” cars to be built in the United States. Go read it if you care; if not, here’s the important passage.

In the past couple of years, Nakai-san’s Rauh-Welt Begriff (literally “rough-world concept”) 911s have gone from in-the-know whisper cult status to commanding respect and lustworthy drools from Porschephiles and tuner kids alike. Scotto’s always been a cat excited by new forms—the man was at the vanguard of the hi-riser movement—but he’s always wanted a Porsche. More specifically, a white 964 turbo with a Lobster Red interior, a classic case of the-car-one-drooled-over-as-a-kid made flesh. Meanwhile, he’d been as captivated as anyone with RWB’s cars during his stint at 0-60 Magazine.

The rest of the story unwinds as so: guy buys Porsche 964 Turbo and has Japanese guy hack out some hideous-looking bodywork, drop that bitch into the weeds, and basically turn what was a very complete and satisfying performance car into a rolling caricature. The car is then taken to SEMA so the tribe of mildly retarded sideways-ballcap mooks who clutter this country’s unemployment lists and convenience-store parking lots can crown Scotto as their king.

According to the never-wrong Wikipedia, Porsche built a total of 3,660 Porsche 965 Turbos. That’s not vanishingly rare, but neither is it 1965 Mustang or 2011 Camry volume. Aircooled 911s don’t seem rare, but they are. We are fast approaching the day when there will be more Cayennes on the road than aircooled Porsches of all kinds. A 1991 Porsche Turbo has already survived twenty years. My suggestion is that at that point, the owners of these cars should consider themselves caretakers, not nouveau-riche toolbags with a license to deface. These cars will all have future owners, if we don’t destroy them.

The good news? RWB’s “expertise” runs pretty shallow. Akira Nakai isn’t running Rinspeed or Ruf. He probably doesn’t understand the cars well enough to make major changes on them. Twenty years from now, a future owner of this car will be able to restore the 965 back to stock. Sure, it will cost money, particularly in the rear quarter-panels (and the suspension, which will almost certainly be ruined by the ridiculous wheels) but it will be possible.

It’s bad enough that Porsche’s legacy is under such consistent attack by Porsche itself; to have people like this RWB dude take perfectly decent, streetable classic Porsches and turn them into pallid parodies of race cars that never really existed — well, that’s just tragic. In the long run, everybody wants to see original, period-correct cars. Owners of aircooled Porsches should be conscious of their obligation to future generations. The enthusiasts of the future may not know what a proper short-wheelbase 911 looks like, or a ’79 SC, or a ’95 Turbo, unless you keep yours the way it was meant to be. If you are absolutely compelled to race an old car, go ahead — but start with a basketcase so you’re not taking a nice car off the street.

These “RWB” cars are just as ridiculous as all the “stance” garbage out there, but in this case the victims aren’t thousand-dollar Jettas or Marysville-built Accords. They are limited-production automobiles, built in small quantities under regulatory and business conditions which will never exist again. They’re precious to future generations and they should be left alone.

If you disagree… well, I hear Vanilla Ice’s Gemballa is up for sale. Just don’t expect much in the way of warranty service, okay?

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80 Comments on “Hide Your Aircooled Porsches, Because “RWB” Is Raping Every One Out There...”


  • avatar
    stryker1

    “The car is then taken to SEMA so the tribe of mildly retarded sideways-ballcap mooks who clutter this country’s unemployment lists and convenience-store parking lots can crown Scotto as their king. ”
    Friggin awesome.

  • avatar
    philadlj

    Icon is building 4x4s that resemble FJs and CJs and (soon) Broncos, but are in reality all-new cars. Singer makes brand-new old-looking 911s. You can buy a car that looks exactly like a vintage E-Type, but won’t break down as much.

    These painstakingly handbuilt replicas are expensive, but they do away with the need to defile something that will never be made again in its original form. Of course, it’s also clear you’re not driving an original, but a replica, which has its own stigma.

    I’m in agreement that very rare cars with significant historical value should be protected from undue modification, but nor should they be holed up in a dusty garage or museum; they should be driven.

    • 0 avatar
      dswilly

      Ironically when Icon developed the Early Bronco reproduction they bought ten pristine original examples and rebuilt them as their first run trucks. This kind of annoyed me, I’m from the camp that feels, regardless of numbers that original examples should be kept that way if possible, but hey, this is America. In the Bronco world you could easily build a repro from scratch. I think in the future Icon will use the Dynacorn bodies, at least I hope so.

  • avatar
    McGilligan

    You do what you want with your cars, they’ll do what they like with theirs. Cope with it. Owners as caretakers is absurd. I have no obligation to anyone (myself included) to preserve what I own, even moreso to your specifications.

    How much warranty service would you expect on that ’91 Turbo anyway? If you know a shop that’ll honour it, I’ve got a 964 Targa with a leaky roof. Think they’ll replace it for me?

  • avatar
    Neb

    I have no idea what “stance” means in this context. Am I lucky?

    • 0 avatar
      AKADriver

      It’s kind of a mashup of the “JDM” fad, lowriders, rat rods, and bad taste. Take a good car, lower it until it has no suspension travel, add -10 degrees camber, fake rust, real rust, until it looks like a turd sitting on a roller skate.

      • 0 avatar
        vlangs

        that’s not entirely true, while there are certainly some people who go for the rust look, proper “stanced” automobiles (RWB definitely being one of them) make automobiles that are stunning works of art.

        with every tuner scene there will be good examples of the style and there will be bad examples. If you look at some of the understated RWB examples they certainly don’t look like “Turds sitting on a Roller Skate”

        I’m assuming you prefer your cars completely stock and without any modification whatsoever?

  • avatar
    psarhjinian

    It’s bad enough that Porsche’s legacy is under such consistent attack by Porsche itself

    Porsche’s legacy is basically “Douchemobile”, and has been for some time. Not that there’s not something about aspiring to douche-hood, and these cars just crank he doucheometer to 11.

    Where the doucheometer is part of the $12,000 Sports Chrono package, of course.

  • avatar
    John R

    Eh…I kind of like these look in more…muted colors – http://tinyurl.com/ch4gxon

    Too bad the motors aren’t tuned to such a degree to warrant the wheels/tires.

  • avatar
    ajla

    I can’t get too worked up about it. Like you said, it’s a reversible process.

    Anyway, some people redo their Pontiac G8 to look like a Holden, some people drop SBCs into their classic Jaguar, some people put a faux convertible top on a ’89 LS400, some people turn a ’65 Impala into an apocalyptic art car, some people get a lime green paint job on their Audi S5 in homage to the early 1970s, and some people put a crazy body kit on their air-cooled Porsche so it looks like a race car that never existed.

    To each their own.

    • 0 avatar

      Some people are brilliant (’65 apocalyptic art car), and some have that special combo of stupidity, and too much money…

    • 0 avatar
      eCurmudgeon

      You forgot the trend (at least in California) to re-badge Infiniti G35/G37s as Nissan Skylines. No doubt some enterprising garage punk is working on RHD conversions as well for proper authenticity.

      • 0 avatar
        KalapanaBlack

        My favorites were the wannabe (underfunded) ricers with Hyundai Tiburons that glued “Tuscani” nameplates and grilles onto them. Around here, they were usually base-model 4-cylinder versions with 15″ wheels. We have a few rustbucket Integras running around with Honda-branded grilles on the front (usually only the front – they can turn a screw driver but can’t take the time to floss off and replace the rear badging). They also are usually crapmobiles with 15″ stock wheelcovers or ’94 Accord alloys, with a Megan Racing-grade fartcan grafted onto the rear and spewing clouds of burnt oil.

        There’s also someone who has a fairly well-beat last-gen Kia Sorento, LX (base) model, with nothing in particular special about it except a Korean-market grille thrown on the front. Parks at my workplace occasionally for a few days. Very odd…

  • avatar

    You know, on a side note: I must be getting ::shivers:: ‘old’
    [cue the South Park episode where everything sounds like sh**]

    –retroactively, I almost start to identify with those honest, threadbare potato-farmers who looked at us as if we were aliens for wearing our baseball caps backwards,

    Because God Damn It, EVERY time I see one of these little tw*ts with their flat-billed, sideways-rotated, 12.5-degree-upward-douche-tilted baseball caps,

    I want to borrow the Archangel Michael’s pimp-hand and smack the sass right off their faces,

    with a World War II battleship anchor.

    .
    -must be getting back to anger-management class; cyz…

    • 0 avatar
      quiksilver180

      I agree with you 100%, even the South Park reference.

      I get that people like to “customize” their cars, and I get it that it’s your car to do whatever you want to it, but it’s also everyone else that has to look at your eyesore. And when your car craps out on the road and causes problems for everyone else, such as traffic congestion or being a hazard to other people on the road, to share because you thought you could “customize” it, well, that ticks me off. A lot.

      If you’re going to “customize” a car, do it right and in decent taste. Not like this above.

      Thanks Jack for sharing. I share your rant.

      • 0 avatar
        vlangs

        funny thing is Jack owns a Lime Green Audi S5, I personally like it, but besides the body work its still the same color as the RWB above. If his car ended up on the side of the road causing a traffic jam wouldn’t you call that an eye sore as well?

        why every car needs to be black or silver is beyond me, and why people tend to hate on one persons style when someone they reveres has a similar style (not to mention Lime Green WAS Porsche’s signature color for 964/965s) and they “love” it also amazes me.

        that isn’t to say you love Jack’s Lime Green S5, but that isn’t to say you don’t either

  • avatar
    thatoneguy247

    “The good news? RWB’s “expertise” runs pretty shallow. Akira Nakai isn’t running Rinspeed or Ruf. He probably doesn’t understand the cars well enough to make major changes on them.”

    You don’t have to agree with what he’s doing, but I see no reason to take jabs at him like this. Sure, the 911s RWB puts out aren’t the most subtle things to ever grace the street, but who says they have to be? It’s not like he’s painting audis bright green or anything…

    • 0 avatar
      vlangs

      I agree, and while Nakai-San doesn’t do too much engine work to customers cars, it doesn’t mean he doesn’t know how. anyone who has seen his own personal 930 would be able to tell you just how amazing at porsche engineering he actually is

      http://speedhunters.com/archive/2008/09/23/car-feature-gt-gt-rwb-nakai-porsche-930.aspx

  • avatar

    It’s true: Gemballa produced the absolute ugliest modded porsches.

    And just to ship drugs in!

  • avatar
    racer-esq.

    Come on Jack, give Akira Nakai a break, it’s hard out there for a pimp.

    Should we have historic preservation districts for cars? No.

    But it is time someone gave RWB more than unquestioning praise. Making poor quality modifications to rare cars isn’t cool just because it’s done overboard with an ironic hipster wink.

    That said, who knows what kind of messes this guy is starting with, he’s not necessarily using pristine cars; it wouldn’t make financial sense to given what pristine air cooled 911s go for.

  • avatar
    mad_science

    I, too am befuddled by the people losing their bowel control over this dude’s work. Body kits, lowering and dumb wheels…all to cruise around on the street (never seen a picture of an RWB car on a track).

    Basically like any other silly expensive appearance-only mods out there.

    …which is why I have a hard time buying into the “caretaker” argument. Seems very un-capitalist to make demands about what other people do with their money and property just because you don’t like it.

    • 0 avatar
      acarr260

      They definitely track those cars. IIRC, his stuff participates in the Idler Games and other events. There is a really well-done video on Vimeo (I believe) that shows them being used in anger.

      From what I’ve read around the internet, he has the performance side of the tuning outsourced to specialist shops.

    • 0 avatar
      vlangs

      http://speedhunters.com/archive/2009/06/14/event-gt-gt-back-to-tsukuba-for-the-idlers-games.aspx

      RWB cars are track machines first, then street cars

  • avatar
    Alex French

    I think they look like fun. If you want a car preserved, buy it and do it yourself. Anyone else can do whatever the hell they want.

  • avatar
    jglucker

    I typically try to approach custom cars with a very open mindset. If you like the way your car looks, have fun…

    For some reason, however, the RWB worshiping has always irked me. The cars were mildly interesting when they seemed like an odd Japanese cult machine. Now, the fanboy cup spilleth over…

  • avatar
    Sigivald

    Contrarian viewpoint:

    Who cares?

    In 20 years you’ll be able to buy a “new” air-cooled turbo Porsche of that era, just like you can buy a “new” ’65 Mustang or ’57 Chevy.

    (Definitely? No. Probably? Yes.

    And they’ll probably be better-than-new, like the “new” ’57 Chevies are, with their modern suspensions and brakes…)

  • avatar
    Boff

    Relax. RWB is no more raping every air-cooled 911 out there than Herman Cain is propositioning every woman out there.

  • avatar
    CJinSD

    For me, 964s are the most expendable of pre-waterboxer Porsches. I’ve driven an RS America and a 964 Speedster, and one of them actually drove very nicely. For some reason I think it was the Speedster instead of the RS America, but it has been a long time. I’m not going to get too bent out of shape about someone hacking 964s, particularly not turbos. Hopefully RWB will turn their attention to decimating the world of 996s soon, which can’t be made any worse.

  • avatar
    harshciygar

    This post disappoints.

    It reads like a typical “cranky old man complains about young people ruining XYZ.” Only it is a middle-aged man complaining about a middle-aged man ruining a middle-aged-man’s car. It that irony? I’m not sure, but it is still kinda funny to me.

    The car culture is all about doing your own thing. If some idiot wants to sell his aircooled Porsche to RWB so he can ruin it, and another idiot wants to buy a Porsche with a ricer wing, that is up to them.

    It’s still a car, Jack. Maybe it’s worth more money than most, and maybe a lot of them weren’t built, but it is still a car, which means it is a blank canvas for expression.

    Some peoples’ expressions are just prettier than others.

  • avatar
    Toad

    “In the long run, everybody wants to see original, period-correct cars.”

    Not true. The “tribe of mildly retarded sideways-ballcap mooks who clutter this country’s unemployment lists and convenience-store parking lots” occasionally sell enough meth, win a lawsuit or hit the lottery and get enough scratch to buy this bastardized car. They will love it until they total it, their trust fund runs out, or lose it to an asset forfeiture/drug sting.

    This takes the fart can Honda Civic and dials it up to 11.

  • avatar
    KevinLG

    Although it’s pretty obvious that nobody here really agrees with me, I think RWB Porsches look amazing. If I was that rich, I’d buy one. And they’re not just function either. A lot of these guys track them hard.

    • 0 avatar
      mnm4ever

      You are not the only one… I agree with you, I kinda like what he is doing. This is the first time I havent agreed with a Baruth article.

      I dont go so much for the looks, but from what I read on the guy, he does improve the performance as well, and his customers are known for tracking and abusing thier cars.

    • 0 avatar
      jerzeyboy730

      Agreed. For those trying to “preserve”, preserve your cars. Buy as many as you like, and don’t worry about my cars. As for writer, get your facts straight on how solid his car is on a track. Has your car seen a track (Writer/purist-haters)? Anyone can do what they want with their car. Worry about your garage, I’ll do what I want to the cars in mine. I am going to send (actually he will come to my garage) a salvage title GT3 to RWB. With or without your approval, who cares. It’s a salvage title car, and will still perform. He’s an artist. Not everyone’s art appeals to every single person viewing it. That’s the point. So live your simple boring life, let others do what they want as you try to preserve what isn’t yours. See ya in my “rough concept”. Thanks for the poorly written angry article which just shows those who support live a boring lifestyle as well. Enjoy walking in your garage and looking at what everyone else has. I’ll choose which cars I “destroy”, and which I leave the same color I chose when I ordered. (If that’s ok with you)

  • avatar
    TonyJZX

    i actually don’t mind this… i don’t object to the RWB ‘visual style’ too much and don’t really care about standard production porsches

    they are written off all the time

    I think the world has plenty of the rare ones like the 73 911RS and the 993 Clubsports so there will always be the truly rare ones

    and RWB go about messing up Japanese market Porsches which will never leave the country so…

    There seems to be an inexhaustible support of 911SC and Carrera 3.2s and 993s so I think ‘future generations’ are safe.

  • avatar
    RRocket

    I also like these RWB cars. And they do perform well..some of them into the mid-50s lap times at Tsubuka. Not bad for a street car. And their owners do run/race them hard. And as far as Nakais experience…he did work at a Porsche dealer for a number of years in a “hands-on” position.

    But more importantly, like him or not, Nakai is one of us. He’s a dyed in the wool car nut. He loves Porsches because he had a toy car of one as a child. So a long love of cars is an understatement. His garage is set up like any one of ours…cars, pool tables, beer cooler and trophies! And women keep out!

    Nakai is just a car nut who is expressing his love in a different way with his creations than you or I might. But he loves cars. In the end, isn’t that what it should be about??

  • avatar
    timmruss

    Terrified with shameful destruction of aircooled 911 turbos, possibly my all time favorite of regular production Porsches. No doubt about that.

    Here comes my question though, to you Jack, recently you’ve mentioned the intent to purchase a used 996 as far as I recall (997 turbo review).

    Why don’t you consider a 964 turbo or even better a 993 TT, which to me is the best looking turbo ever made. They seem to be obivious candidates for future modern classics, would you agree?

    Or is it the high maintenance costs of an air cooled turbo a detering factor.

    Caner

    • 0 avatar
      Jack Baruth

      Ironically, it’s because I would boost the piss outta the thing and run it around a track until it explodes, and I’m unwilling to do that to a 993 or 964 turbo. I have a plain 993 C2 which is stock except for the stereo head unit.

  • avatar
    thats one fast cat

    Thank you, Jack.

    I went out to my 36K mile 87 Cab (with 15″ Fuchs, natch) after reading your article and just sat down in the seat, knowing full well that my four year old son will some day — god willing — take the red sled for a drive with the top down, listening to that awesome mechanical symphony, and KNOW that this was the last of the full grown Porsches. It isn’t particularly collectable, or even fast by today’s standards, but it is what cars were meant to be.

  • avatar
    wcpfour

    Geez, Jack. Who pissed in your Wheaties?

    For every 964 that RWB re-imagines, there is most likely another car out there with no miles, still in the wrapper, never being driven. Which is the greater travesty? Do you feel the same way about the 964’s that Singer is gutting to make ‘new-old’ 911’s? The RWB isn’t my thing, either, but I would give up body part(s) for a Singer Design car. What about Bruce Canepa’s improved 959’s? Now that they are no longer stock, are they any less appealing? The Gemballa cars were pretty tragic, even for the ’80’s, but the RWB’s are very far from that idiom.

    I love a period-correct, stock, classic car just as much as anyone reading this, but I can also appreciate a tasteful, well-executed custom. Let’s talk about Emory Outlaws and Canepa’s 962-motored, 934-bodied ’89 Speedster. I have to imagine that particular Speedster must make you break out in hives!

    I enjoy most of your writing, Jack. Our automotive tastes even share some similarities. But this seems beneath you. It’s just a pissy rant. I look forward to more of your usual work, and hope you don’t lose too much sleep over this.

  • avatar
    dolo54

    I understand what you’re saying, but I have to say… I really dig this particular one: http://noriyaro.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rauh_welt_uzi_tsukuba_4by3.jpg

  • avatar

    Just to play devil’s advocate and maybe express a little ambivalence, Jack, now that Panthers are no longer in production, what would your reaction be if someone got upset with mods you or Sanjeev made on your Town Cars?

    I don’t like it either when someone does a hack job on a collectible car and while we’d like to believe that people who own cool cars will be the caretakers you said they should be, their cars are still their cars. It’s their property, they can do what they want with them. All we can do is call them fools.

    I’ve spent a lot of time this past year going to some top shelf car events and car museums (next time you’re going to Chicago you absolutely have to stop at the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Museum in Auburn). Fortunately many collectors and enthusiasts do have the “caretaker” frame of mind. That’s how so many great cars get loaned or donated to museums. Also, there are private collections and by-appointment-only museums that are made accessible. Still, with a few exceptions, we’re talking about mass-produced factory goods. Those Duesenbergs are great cars as well as objets d’art and historical artifacts, but back in the day, people who owned them had them customized and altered as styles changed.

    I will say that I’ve become a little tired of incredibly overrestored cars. I prefer the original condition cars, but maybe even more I like the survivors. These are machines that are meant to be used. Someone above made the point that treating a car as a museum piece that is never driven might be as bad an offense at the enthusiast ethos as a hideous custom.

    A few years ago I tried to sell some hats and shirts embroidered with Strats, LPs, Rick 360s, and the like at a guitar show. George Gruhn was at the show and I got the opportunity to talk with him for a bit. I asked him if Leo Fender or his competitors at Gibson ever dreamed that people would treat their guitars like Cremona violins. He scoffed at the idea, saying that those vintage Fenders were bolted together by Mexican American women working on an assembly line. Factory goods, made to a price point. My son had some death metal pickups installed in the Mexican Strat he bought. Maybe someday, some guitar collector will wish he hadn’t, but it’s not like he was butchering a D’Angelico.

    I can’t recall the source offhand, but somewhere in rabbinic literature it says that you should take care of the things you own. Ultimately we take nothing to the grave so we’re really just caretakers of everything we “own”.

  • avatar
    tedward

    A part of me completely agrees with your dislike of these body kits. Another part of me secretly dreams of owning a 964 with skid plates, rally lights, strapped down survival gear, etc… That same part of me is always making the same case for my old E30. So who am I to judge?

  • avatar
    velvet fog

    Nice use of “mooks”

  • avatar
    jco

    “raping”? in the headline? really?

    i get what you’re saying. real, pre-drive-by-wire, simple, mechanical, honest cars will never be made again. what’s out there is out there now. and yeah that doesn’t just go for 911s. NSXs, the amazing little 1G/2G Civic Si, AE86s, the list goes on. good cars, and lots of them hacked up by car show posers.

    [vimeo 27545197 w=640 h=360]

    you’re gonna hate on an enthusiast like this? who gets out there and races what he builds, too? i think the giant RWB logo in the rear wing is gross, but other than that.. i dunno this seems like a GET OFF MY LAWN piece, when i wouldn’t have thought you’d be writing that kinda thing.

    • 0 avatar
      Jack Baruth

      You’re the second person to post that video. I’m not sure there is any actual racing going on. The pace is about what you’d expect to see in NASA HPDE2 and people are wildly off-line, sawing the wheel to no effect, and coming off the throttle to let others pass. I think it’s just a club trackday.

      If this article sounds a little like an old man ranting, well… I am an old man, ranting. A lot of really nice 911s have been ruined over the years by people who wanted to modify them into some they aren’t. The number of decent Seventies 911s available to people without lottery-winner money is low for precisely this reason.

      • 0 avatar
        RRocket

        Jack,

        Yea, it’s sorta a track day. Sometimes they treat it as a track day, other times the racing is pretty quick and hard. These groups are called “Idlers”. Basically, little to no tech rules….almost anything goes. Run what ya brung type thing. Just a bunch a car nuts wanting to get their stuff out and drive them, not caring if anybody thinks their cars are cool or not.

        Here some pics from a 12 Hours Idlers Enduro…..

        http://www.7tune.com/event-2011-idlers-12-hour-enduro-the-grid/

  • avatar
    Brock_Landers

    Jack,

    You as a Porsche-phile should know that RWB is modelling their cars mainily after RSR Turbo and 993 GT2 Evo factory race cars. I wouln’t call it raping and comparison with Gemballa designs isn’t very appropriate.

    RSR:
    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Porsche_Carrera_RSR_Turbo_in_the_Porsche-Museum.jpg

    GT2 Evo: http://www.gmundcars.com/cars/635/993gt2evo.html

    I agree that 964 Turbo is too rare and special to modify this way, but non-turbo 964’s are not that rare (produced 60K like someone here pointed out), so if few are modified after classic Porsche racecars, so where’s the harm?

  • avatar
    Junebug

    I was the third owner (1975) of a 1972 Z28, one of the rarest ever. Only 2575 were built if memory serves me right. I spoke with the guy I unloaded it to a few days ago and he said he sold it, but managed to track it down for shizz and giggles. The current owner had it painted a different color, it has a different engine and transmission too. So do I care that it’s now just a body? Not really, that car was a POS to drive and cars have come a long way since, maybe it would have made a nice show car or collector car, but what the hell……IMHO, it would be better if someone did modify it, add power steering, AC, decent seats, etc

  • avatar
    mnm4ever

    Another thing about RWB… at his prices it is not like he has a lot of clients, there are not a significant number of cars being “destroyed” here.

    Super Street did an article on him recently (I know, I got a free subscription to it so I can read it in the bathroom!)… stupid writing but good pics:

    http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/sstp_1108_1984_porsche_911_930_r/index.html

  • avatar
    fellswoop

    If you can spare 38 seconds…

    Please:

    1.) Turn up the volume on your browsing apparatus.
    2.) Queue up the youtube video posted above in this thread by KevinLG to about 1:20.

    Link –> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=puCBOiOhWT0#t=83s

    3.) Enjoy delicious flat six, turbo, and blow off valve sounds.
    4.) Stop video at 1:58.

    *Resume reading thread*

  • avatar
    aws

    If you want to bust some body’s chops for ruining Porsche’s why don’t you write an article about Weideking instead of some poor body-man scratching out a living modifying Porsche’s. It still mystifies me how Porsche could pay that man 180 million dollars for his last year of employment—which included almost bankrupting the company. Modifying cars works both ways–my long hood RSR clone was built from a rusty 1970 911S that was headed to a crusher in the early 1990’s– Instead it was gutted, acid dipped and modified to a wide body race car. Somebody dumping money into a older Porsche generally extends its life–not shorten it.
    I can’t determine the quality of workmanship on the RWB cars— but they seem to pass the 20 foot test. I have always felt car modifications are sorted out in racing–and he does seem to have customers racing his cars. As far as whether that was “real” racing on the video I won’t say—but after years of racing SCCA,POC,PCA, VARA, and HSR I will say there are always rolling roadblocks on the race track in all kinds of cars. It’s what you DO with the car that counts–not what it looks like.
    aws

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    satan666

    Dear Jack,

    You are a DICKHEAD. You have not the slightest clue of what you are talking about. Please step away from anything automotive for the rest your sad existence.

    Sincerely,

    driftwolrd.com

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    swifty

    [img]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3191/2589647605_249179588a_z.jpg[/img]
    RWB raping Porsche’s? Deal With It.

    993 GT2 EVO. Is that damaged goods? To me, it looks similar to RWB styling.

  • avatar
    PPCengineering

    Jack,

    It’s hard to not smash my keyboard in anger like Satan666 – but in a more eloquent way, the article just reads as bitter drivel with no real reason these cars are bad other than you just don’t like them.

  • avatar
    Peabo_Bryson

    Thanks for the laugh, I needed it. Nothing like a great Porsche elitist piece!

  • avatar
    Paul B.

    Realistically RWB Porsches represent such a small segment of the air-cooled breed who cares. The argument could be made for ill trained drivers purchasing them and crashing them when they soon find out their talent isn’t that far reaching, or those who have purchased and not maintained the cars. The harsh reality is these cars were never meant to last forever and that the owner should enjoy it how they deem necessary. I won’t always agree with what people do to their vehicles, but from the looks of it RWB isn’t destroying the overall intention of Porsche, yet. If you’re that concerned about the air-cooled segment disappearing I urge you to buy several copies to preserve for the rest of the world to enjoy. The whole tone seems to be written by someone with an elitist chip on their shoulder mentality.

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    mrsandon

    Wait what the hell is this haters anonymous? The guy seems happy working away in his impressive garage in Japan producing wide Porsches, of which the customers enjoy. Yeah it may be a cult thing, but it definitely isn’t cheap. Give the guy a break, I also believe this cult is being supported as the car scene in japan reaches out to even rarer cars like the 962…
    http://www.speedhunters.com/2012/11/porsche-962c-prowls-the-streets/
    Stop hating and start enjoying, if not go and die.

  • avatar
    Fogelhund

    Porsche means different things to different people. Porsche to me is about their racing endeavours and racing heritage. There is a long history of Porschephiles modifying their cars to appear like the racing icons. How many 73-76′ RS and RSR replicas are out there, and I don’t see anybody complaining too loudly about these cars. Now we have someone making 911 GT2 EVO replicas for the street, and people are in arms. The GT2 EVO’s were great cars, loved seeing Roock campaign them, one of the most aggressive and attractive 911’s to see a track. That someone is honouring the great designs of Porsche Racing by modifying some cars for Track/Street to look like them is great. It isn’t for everyone, but then neither are the Mods made by Singer, or Magnus Walker, or RUF. Porsche to me is racing, not preserving a poser car, to remain a poser car.

  • avatar
    jimbob457

    Uhhh… Are you saying all hot rods are bad? How about 914’s? According to Wikipedia, about 40% of all ever made are still on the road 37 years after they quit making them. Many are said to have been extensively modified with engine swaps, et.al. As we speak about 75 of them are listed for sale on the internet. To me this is a good thing.

  • avatar
    tstacks

    Sorry y’all are so butt hurt that someone else’s vision doesn’t align with yours. These cars get driven on the track, and probably more than any of you smug “enthusiasts” truly enjoy yours.

    What happened to appreciating the diversity of a mutual attraction that we all share? It’s just a damn car, get over yourselves. You’re not better than anyone because your 911 is the same as thousands of others.

  • avatar
    t.persing

    Couple of things;

    I agree 100% about the doucheness that is rampant the aftermarket world. Stance is a plague on par if not more dangerous and faddish then the ‘Fast and Furious’ craze of the late ’90s to mid ’00s. Its awful in every way, shape, and form, and needs to be eliminated immediately. I truly believe a cleansing of the gene pool is in order.

    Think was can convince the government to condone something like ‘The Purge?’

    Second, you’re clearly uninformed about what the company builds. I’m assuming you’re being fooled by the typical 18-30 stance nation shits who do nothing but post pictures about how the car looks. Its not just a number of 911s, 930s, 964s, 993s, and the lot being bastardized for car shows and slow street driving. These cars are tuned and abused on the track regularly (at least in the land of the rising sun).

    Nakai has been building cars (not just Porsches, he originally came from building and racing Corollas) for decades. Each Porsche that comes in to him is built for track purposes first (including suspension, drivetrain, chassis, and engine work), and street driving second. His cars regularly compete in Idlers Club games and other privateer and small sponsored events.

    He does build track oriented cars, its not his fault the main focus of US tuning scene is sitting in a Walmart parking lot talking about offset and camber.

    To be honest, you sound like a cranky old man bitching about the youth. Please do some actual research before trying to drag someones name through the dirt because you disagree with their practice.

  • avatar
    tonynca

    For someone who is in the auto business you’re surely one of the most ignorant editors I’ve ever read. Not everyone lives USA or Euro culture.

  • avatar
    koops

    I dunno, this dude has lived and breathed Porsches, every single day, for decades; and he organizes races for his customers every year at one of the best known tracks in the world. Who does that?

    You may not agree with the style, but these cars have their balls driven off. Cars were meant to be driven, not put in a glass case; and they hilariously seem to do very well despite their ride height.

    You should probably cut the guy some slack, not that he could care, but he probably likes Porcshes more than anyone here could dream of.

  • avatar
    JackBaruthisawalkingpenis

    RWB cars are amazing, shit the guy makes more money in a month then you do in a year, he has a 90k FB following, your page has 20 people lol. Your my hero…ok i was joking… He has customers all round the world and your ripping on the guy? I have meet him personally, he is an amazingly talented passionate man, you on the other hand just talk smack about him from across the globe, maybe your just trolling to gain page hits, or maybe you just dont get it, im guessing muppets like you wont ever get it, we will put that down to you being a yank, stick to beard growing and playing guitar ( but do it in private we dont need to deal with that too ) and leave this stuff to the experts….

  • avatar
    hoplomachus

    Ferdinand would be rolling in his grave if he learnt of these RWB abominations

  • avatar
    NoGoYo

    I suddenly feel less bad about my dreams of a box flared C3 Corvette.

    Or a box flared BMW…or some box flared Italian car…

    I just really like old school box flares.

  • avatar
    ashleymoriahh

    I could not agree any more with “JackBaruthisawalkingpenis”, however he could have been a bit more mature with the response. Nakai’s builds are art. I understand the old-fashioned mind set of keeping everything stock, but relax, the classic 911’s are still around. Modifying cars will never go away. Nakai’s passion, dedication, and knowledge is extraordinary and inspirational. Open your mind. He’s not some 16 year old putting body kits on Hondas.

    JackBaruthisawalkingpenis
    January 15th, 2014 at 5:48 am
    RWB cars are amazing, shit the guy makes more money in a month then you do in a year, he has a 90k FB following, your page has 20 people lol. Your my hero…ok i was joking… He has customers all round the world and your ripping on the guy? I have meet him personally, he is an amazingly talented passionate man, you on the other hand just talk smack about him from across the globe, maybe your just trolling to gain page hits, or maybe you just dont get it, im guessing muppets like you wont ever get it, we will put that down to you being a yank, stick to beard growing and playing guitar ( but do it in private we dont need to deal with that too ) and leave this stuff to the experts….

  • avatar
    AUTOCANNON

    This article makes me laugh. Sounds like a diehard porsche fan that has a boner for 964s. Granted not everybody likes the rwb look but you cant knock it if people put those kits on. Its their car they can do what they please. I may not agree with the tastes some people have with their cars but guess what at the end of the day its their car and money. The car is beautiful stock and its beautiful with the kit. Im not going to put down someone because they want to be artisitic with the car. Ignorance in this article is on point. Hey if he wants to charge $100k who cares somebody will pay that has the money, more power to him he left his mark. Nakai is probably laughing at this article as we speak as hes walking to the bank and hes laughing even harder that you recognized his work even if it falls in your realm of destroying the holy grail porsche 911

  • avatar
    low_rider24

    You have accomplished four main things with your – albeit tasteless – headline: gained page clicks, expressed your opinion, revealed the great variety of car enthusiasts on TTAC, and advertised for RWB, which I will now go explore.

  • avatar
    gpshouse45

    People can do what they want with their vehicles. I respect gear heads whether they hang out in front of 7/11 or in front of starbucks. Whether its Hot import nights or uppity Cars and Coffee. Lowered, stance, wide body, stretch, stock, resto mod, track, street, quarter mile or garage queen. It’s their vehicle. Just play the lottery and then have enough money to buy every 964 (Turbo or NA) so RWB or Singer don’t F it up! Good luck!!


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