Piston Slap: Wherever Liberty is Threatened; You Will Find…The Three Amigos!

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Christopher writes:

Are you familiar with the Land Rover Three Amigos? I have a 2003 Discovery SE. The ABS, hill decent and traction control lamps all on at once. My mechanic says it’s the ABS module and the fix is $1200-1500 and may not solve the problem. What’s up with this? Sell the vehicle? How do you sell a broken car?

Sajeev answers:

Let’s go back to the Three Amigos movie: remember when Chevy Chase accidentally shot and killed the Invisible Swordsman? It’s the perfect segue to the world of blindly chasing an electrical problem. Because that’s all we have to work with, and that’s a death sentence when it comes to Land Rovers.

So we have questions that need answers. Like how did the mechanic come to that conclusion? He needed to rule out a bad wheel speed sensor and faulty wiring before reaching such a costly diagnosis. And if charming British electronics are as terrible as the Internet says, he has to test the system with a multimeter, testing voltage at every stopping point in the circuit. And using said multimeter to test resistance at the wheel sensors. If something is out of spec, replace it. If not, then perhaps the ABS module is indeed busted.

The parts aren’t cheap, and proper diagnosis of the system is worse, considering labor rates hover around $90 an hour. A 2003 Disco is worth about $7000 as a trade in, on a good day. It’s time to either trade-in at the dealer to reap the tax benefits (whilst buying something else) or dump it on craigslist for maximum cash. And if you dump it on craigslist: be realistic on pricing, take four great pictures and list the pros/cons of the vehicle’s condition in well written English. That keeps you from looking shady, which helps court a good buyer. And makes the process significantly less stressful.

Good luck asking the hard questions, or running like hell away from the Disco.

(Send your queries to mehta@ttac.com)

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  • Blue adidas Blue adidas on Apr 23, 2010

    We can make jokes about American cars all day, but the reality is that British, French and Italian cars are much more fussy and problematic. Dash warning lights are only an abstract indication of what may be going on within the car. The Discovery is a solid design. But is a temperamental vehicle built to typical British standards by very iffy union labor. My suggestion is, if the ABS is working, pull the bulb and drive the Disco until light comes through the rust holes in the fenders. If you dump this and buy a Lexus or Toyota, like someone above suggested, you're a total puss.

    • Golden2husky Golden2husky on Apr 24, 2010

      There is a good bit of truth to this. I always chuckle at peoples' ignorance when I hear "you need to buy foreign if you want reliability"...I remember when you could read the tire inflation sticker or Range Rovers...with the door closed!! At the International Auto show, the only brand I saw with misaligned doors was...Jaguar...

  • Chris Kramer Chris Kramer on Apr 24, 2010

    I'm inclined to agree with the mechanic's diagnosis of a faulty ABS module. Remove it yourself and send the module to http://www.modulemaster.com/en/index.php It will cost a lot less. Like maybe $200.

  • Lou_BC Honda plans on investing 15 billion CAD. It appears that the Ontario government and Federal government will provide tax breaks and infrastructure upgrades to the tune of 5 billion CAD. This will cover all manufacturing including a battery plant. Honda feels they'll save 20% on production costs having it all localized and in house.As @ Analoggrotto pointed out, another brilliant TTAC press release.
  • 28-Cars-Later "Its cautious approach, which, along with Toyota’s, was criticized for being too slow, is now proving prescient"A little off topic, but where are these critics today and why aren't they being shamed? Why are their lunkheaded comments being memory holed? 'Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.' -Orwell, 1984
  • Tane94 A CVT is not the kiss of death but Nissan erred in putting CVTs in vehicles that should have had conventional automatics. Glad to see the Murano is FINALLY being redesigned. Nostalgia is great but please drop the Z car -- its ultra-low sales volume does not merit continued production. Redirect the $$$ into small and midsize CUVs/SUVs.
  • Analoggrotto Another brilliant press release.
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