False Dawn: Rising Used Car Prices Do Not a New Car Sales Surge Make

Robert Farago
by Robert Farago

Bloomberg (and a lot of other good-news-hungry outlets) are reporting that a recent surge in used car prices indicates that new car sales may soon rise. The theory: a falling supply of used cars and a glut of new cars will lead buyers back to the new car F&I guy. Of course, that assumes that there’s a falling supply of used cars. For that assumption, the MSM turns to . . . new car dealers: “A survey by Wachovia Securities analyst Rich Kwas showed that 42 percent of dealers report ‘too little’ used-car inventory.” Yes, well, they would do, wouldn’t they? As new car sales plummet, franchised dealers’ supply of used trade-ins declines by, oh, roughly the same amount. Or more.

As TTAC’s Hammer Time’s Steve Lang will tell you, there’s plenty of old iron out there. And LOTS of repos to come. Hundreds of thousands of them. Despite this supply, or because of it, there are some freakanomics in play. Even in this downturn, demand is seasonal. The rental fleets are certainly holding onto their cars longer and order less. But there is little chance of a sustained new car recovery until house prices recover. But let’s not let the facts get in the way of pro-car biz prognosticating.

“There is a very, very interesting inflection point where the financing on a new car becomes more attractive than the financing on a used car,” said Scott Painter, owner and founder of TrueCar.com.

True enough. However, to reach that point, manufacturers would have to dump their new inventory on the market at insane prices. (50 percent off C11 sales?) Of course, if people trade-in their old cars to buy these new cars, the used car supply will increase, which will drive down used car prices and make them more affordable. Making it harder to sell new cars. See how that works?

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  • Lokki Lokki on Mar 19, 2009

    I went through this 'Used cars sales are up - New car sales are down' drill back in the early 80's. The reasons then are similar to the reason now... nobody could get financing (although then it was because inflation had interest rates at 17 - 20 percent) and new cars then were perceived as having no improvements (in fact they were worse!) than older models.

  • Sbrown Sbrown on Jun 09, 2009

    Used car prices are going up and it's a direct representation of the economic crisis. They will recover over time but until then consumers need to think smart and bypass the traditional means finding some bargains at fleet auctions or even wait out the storm utilizing their current form of transport for a while longer.

  • ToolGuy This thing here is interesting.For example, I can select "Historical" and "EV stock" and "Cars" and "USA" and see how many BEVs and PHEVs were on U.S. roads from 2010 to 2023."EV stock share" is also interesting. Or perhaps you prefer "EV sales share".If you are in the U.S., whatever you do, do not select "World" in the 'Region' dropdown. It might blow your small insular mind. 😉
  • ToolGuy This podcast was pretty interesting. I listened to it this morning, and now I am commenting. Listened to the podcast, now commenting on the podcast. See how this works? LOL.
  • VoGhost If you want this to succeed, enlarge the battery and make the vehicle in Spartanburg so you buyers get the $7,500 discount.
  • Jeff Look at the the 65 and 66 Pontiacs some of the most beautiful and well made Pontiacs. 66 Olds Toronado and 67 Cadillac Eldorado were beautiful as well. Mercury had some really nice looking cars during the 60s as well. The 69 thru 72 Grand Prix were nice along with the first generation of Monte Carlo 70 thru 72. Midsize GM cars were nice as well.The 69s were still good but the cheapening started in 68. Even the 70s GMs were good but fit and finish took a dive especially the interiors with more plastics and more shared interiors.
  • Proud2BUnion I typically recommend that no matter what make or model you purchase used, just assure that is HAS a prior salvage/rebuilt title. Best "Bang for your buck"!
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