By on December 31, 2007

08_ex12.jpgWhen you make the market’s most un-SUV-like SUV– a large, fast, expensive, thirsty, luggage and mud-aversive vehicle– what do you do for an encore? If you’re Infiniti, you make a virtually identical smaller version that’s slightly more fuel efficient. And how do you convince consumers to buy this $40k FX35 mini-me? You cram it with enough electronics to keep an AWACS crew busy for hours. Strangely, that’s not the best reason to buy an EX35. Hell, it’s not even a good reason. But I’m getting ahead of myself here…

Visually, the difference between the FX and EX is no more profound than the disparity between Sarah Connor in the first and second Terminator movies. The “coupe inspired” EX is a bit more compact and a lot more cut than the FX. And that's it. To this reviewer’s eyes, the FX’ zoftig curves are far more appealing than the Bimmer-aping character lines bisecting the EX’ prow and flanks. The EX’ rear window treatment is especially over-wrought; a mish-mash of shapes assembled for the sole purpose of not being an FX. 

08_ex03.jpgThe EX’ back end lacks the FX’ way cool integrated coffee can exhausts, but the smaller sib’s helm leaves no doubt to which letter in SUV it aspires. The Japanese cute ute’s steering wheel is meaty enough to inspire a vegetarian backlash. That said, the EX’ designers clearly decided that G comes before Z in their aesthetic alphabet. To justify the Lexus-like price tag, Infiniti’s designers have once again benchmarked Audi. From the climate controls to the red-faced LCD trip computer nestled between the gauges, the EX grasps for Ingolstadt's four rings.

And misses the marque. The EX’ dash may be as handsome as Poggenpohl kitchen, but the gauges’ violet inner rings and oversized font stick out like an oil can of Fosters in a wicker wine cradle. The EX’ leather seats may look elegantly sumptuous, but they feel as plasticky as your grandmother's vinyl couch covers. The EX’ rotary controller is suitably Starck, but sits dorkily on the dashtop, like a nerd's polyester trousers grazing his nipples. While I can appreciate the oil-dampened glide of a glovebox door as much as the next OCD pistonhead, the EX’ cabin proves than lackluster imitation is the sincerest form of bad branding.

08_ex07.jpgIf Infiniti has a "thing," it's gizmos. We're talking voice recognition, an Intelligent Key (that couldn't answer the simplest trivia questions), Intelligent Cruise Control (that kept Tom away), an "Around View" parking monitor (in case you need to park sideways), a brake-actuating Lane Departure Prevention system, Sat Nav (with real time traffic info), Bluetooth, Bose blasting (with 24-bit DAC, 11 speakers, two subwoofers, six CD player, iPod connectivity and a 9.3GB hard drive), remote rear seat release (and motorized retraction) and the usual luxury everything. Wait. No power liftgate? Nope.

But power it's got. The EX’ fourth gen VQ engine stumps-up 297hp and 253 ft.-lbs. of torque. As max shove clocks-in at a relatively high rpm, sporting drivers must give the EX’ go-pedal a proper pasting to satisfy their accelerative urges. So motorvated, the 3752lbs. EX heads for the hills like you TASERed its tailpipes. The dash from rest to 60mph takes a shade under six seconds. Provided you use the EX’ five-speed autobox’ manual override to hold onto tight to your revs, the SUV will pass long lines of traffic in a single bound.

08_ex14.jpgOn the downside, EX lacks the similarly speedy FX35's operatic mellifluousness under wide open throttle. What's worse, the silence allows the EX' tire roar to come to the fore (damn those fat all-season shoes). The EX35's prodigious thirst is another inconvenient truth. Ambling around town, the accommodation and cargo-challenged SUV gulps gas at the astonishing rate of 16mpg. Drive the EX like you stole it and the fuel bills will make you wish you had.

Still, if you had to evade the long arm of the law in an SUV (closed course, fake arm), you could hardly do better than pilot an EX equipped with ATTESA ET-S (Advanced Total Traction Engineering System with Electronic Torque Split). If you ignore the FX-donated crashy rear suspension, and the EX' unsettling tendency to porpoise over undulations, the all wheel-drive Infiniti can perform the same stupid truck tricks that help Porsche Cayenne S owners justify their bizarre whip to incredulous mainstream motorists– only faster.

08_ex11.jpgYes but– you can’t drive an EX35 off road. Or tow anything. Or carry four adults in comfort. Or their luggage. Yes, the Infiniti EX35 is the fastest, best handling of all the luxury cute utes. But who cares? How many people have been hankering for a really expensive jacked-up two-plus-two sports coupe with a billion megabits of electro-mechanical mishaps just waiting to happen, produced by an automaker whose street cred hovers in that near luxury no-man’s land once occupied by Buick, currently home to Acura?

In fact, the Infiniti’s EX' EXtreme lack of utility consigns this so-called SUV to an EXtremely rarified niche: drivers who want a less practical G35 sedan with a better view; or customers looking for a smaller, cheaper FX35. Otherwise, well, what was the point?

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53 Comments on “2008 Infiniti EX35 Review...”


  • avatar
    Ken Strumpf

    Interesting review. As a satisfied G35x driver I was thinking about giving this vehicle a look, but I think I'll rethink that idea.

    • 0 avatar
      macmagna

      Don’t let this guy (Robert Farago)sway you from looking. Looking is free. I’m 6’3″ and wanted to move from my sporty 2001 Nissan Sentra SE 2.0 manual to a hot hatch (i.e. Ford Focus SE/Audi A3). After test driving both I decided I wanted something easier to get in and out of (taller) but was not excited about a small SUV. This is an excellent compromise. The V6 achieves the unmatched sportiness, the hatch achieves the style I wanted, and I’m way more comfortable than I would have been in any other car. The model without the roof racks is only marginally taller than a standard car. I own a 2008 EX35. I don’t want any other vehicle. I can fold down the seats and place 9 sq ft. of bagged compost in the back on the waterproof mat, along with 3 sq. ft of peat moss for my garden, flip the seats up and haul my wife and two kids to Disney. I’m not seeing a downside here.

  • avatar
    quasimondo

    Is it me or does this thing look like the new WRX, which looks like the Mazda3, which looks like the Vibe?

    • 0 avatar
      macmagna

      Um, no, it doesn’t look like a WRX, Mazda 3, or Vibe. None of those are luxury vehicles and none of them sit this tall. True they are all hot hatches, but your neighbors won’t say “You look like you make too much money driving that.” to you when you pull up in a Vibe. This vehicle looks just different enough to make you stand out. The best thing is that if you secure a model without roof racks, you don’t look like you are driving a FX either. Or I should say “I” don’t look like I’m driving an FX. LOL.

  • avatar
    carguy

    Since BMW is also going ahead with the X6 it seems that there is a market for obese high center of gravity sports cars.

    It really is the answer to the question nobody asked.

  • avatar
    Justin Berkowitz

    If you look at it as a G35 hatchback, it’s not too bad. Except that it probably is *less* practical than the G35 hatch.

    Still, people insist on their pseudo SUVs rather than regular old “cars ‘n wagons.”

    What an exciting (NOT) market this is turning out to be – the BMW X3, the Infiniti EX35, the upcoming Audi Q5, the Acura RDX, the upcoming Mercedes GLK…

    On another note, what do you bet most people assume this is just a rebadged Nissan Rogue (even though they’re totally different unrelated vehicles).

    • 0 avatar
      macmagna

      It’s unfortunate that you lump this in with the frumpy x3, q5, and RDX. It’s lower than all of those so has a better center of gravity. It has the front end of the G35 and the independent rear of the FX so handles like a cat. Mine gets 22.5 (mixed highway/city) miles per gallon atop that, but flies like a rocket whenever I want. I test drove a Nissan Rogue and I agree. It’s not a Rogue. What it is… Perfect for a family with small kids who have to be delivered safely to and from school, and for hauling stuff in the back, and hauling butt. But mostly it’s perfect for looking different than all of the other cars on the road. Because it does look different enough to turn heads. If you can’t afford to buy premium gas this car is not for you…. Point blank.

  • avatar
    phil

    I’m not sure why people are so hard on this car. It’s just a 5 door hatch that goes like hell and pays the price in fuel efficiency. it’s far more practical than any 2 door coupe, handles remarkably well, and i suspect will be very reliable. the electronics may be over the top but infiniti is hardly alone in that game. the fact that it sits a bit higher is a plus for many people, easier to get in/out of and better visibility. to me it looks like a really fun car for people who don’t need the utility of a larger vehicle. and justin, i’m guessing that if you did a poll of people off the street less than half would even know that nissan and infiniti are related. we tend to forget that not everyone shares our obsession with all things auto.

  • avatar
    LtSolo

    What IS the point of this thing?

    And as a real AWACS crew member, I wouldn’t want to ever have to play with that many buttons. The last thing I want to do when I drive home from work is being reminded I’m at work. Which brings me to some points on this vehicle, and its eerie similarity to the AWACS jets.

    There are two versions of the AWACS, one based on the ancient Boeing 707, and a new one the Japanese JASDF have based on the new 767.

    The 767 one is bigger, faster, does more things, looks better, is more expensive, but a far better and useful place to be.

    The 707 based one, which I fly in, is smaller, slower, much MUCH thirstier, has more buttons that do less, holds less people, smells funny, and wobbles around the sky. But ACC has upgraded the interior with great new seats.

    Seems Infiniti benchmarked Audi for the interior, and then benchmarked the Air Force for brand cohesiveness.

    I would buy the Infiniti G37 in a heartbeat. This thing…. not so much, unless I wanted to be one of the “poseurs” I see around here so fond of Infinitis. I see them at Starbucks with slicked up hair, blue tooth device to the ear, expensive yet fake looking watch, expensive clothing with giant strategically placed brand names on them (so you know how much they spent), and the Infiniti key ring dangling out of their pocket. They scream “I’m ImPOR-TANT!”.

    Although it seems a lot of upmarket brands have these…..

    • 0 avatar
      gooseberry00

      Excellent review! Had a lot of fun reading it. 100% agree even though I drive an EX.

    • 0 avatar
      cleo09

      I bought this car and yes it is the Star ship enterprise especially at night, the hues of the soft blue dials reflecting off the butter cream leather is only intensify with all those notes you have never heard play before as I do and others with the Bose. My girlfriend lives part year under snow with some curly mountain roads to reach. The reviewer failed to mention the auto/manual transmission in this sexy machine. Going back I switch it down to first and up to third with a bump up or down on the shifter, and when I want auto again it’s just a jump to the left….I get there mind you with heated leather seats in the snow, C’mon AND a button for Snow? Pure sex on wheels I kid you not!

      Well Done ~

    • 0 avatar
      macmagna

      FYI you don’t see the infiniti key ring, because they don’t have a key, unlike Audi. It stays in our pockets because the car knows when we are near, and inside, and only starts for us. There is a learning curve for everything. Just saying. Don’t knock it till you try it. I like mine. And if expense is your priority look elsewhere. LOL.

  • avatar
    dean

    Still got that ELO song running around your head, RF? Hold on tight to that song… (Catchy tune, that one.)

    Re: the car. Why? Can we please, for the love of FSM, grow out of this phase wherein everything has to be dressed up as an SUV?

  • avatar
    Matthew Danda

    With all those electronics, and the insanely high cost of replacement parts these days, I wonder how much it will cost to maintain the vehicle once it hits 100,000 miles?

    How much do you want to bet that, in the year 2015, the maintenance costs of a seven-year-old 2008 EX35 will equal the cost of the payments on a brand new replacement?

  • avatar
    adehus

    I resent the notion that there’s anything wrong with my pants grazing my nipples. Feels good, darnitall!

    And who is this Starke you speak of? Perhaps Starck? Philippe Starck, my nipples… oh mama!

    As for the rest of this car/suv/thing… it does seem to be the answer to a question nobody asked.

  • avatar
    Alex Dykes

    I just can’t seem to get over the passenger side airbag cover that looks like a bad case of plumber’s crack to me. Still, I can’t say I would not recommend it to a friend looking for a “baby FX.”

  • avatar
    pb35

    I loved the Lexus SportCross when it was available. I bought a G35x instead, though, back in 2004. I took it to the dealer for the 30k service last week and wanted to have a look at the EX but I didn’t even bother to walk up and see it up close.

    This thing interests me, but it’s ugly (and I like ugly cars, mostly). Besides, I already have an SUV.

    Entertaining review, though.

  • avatar
    Davekaybsc

    The same people who think that the FX is a rebadged Nissan Murano will probably think this is the Infiniti Rogue. I guess because the Lexus and Acura SUVs are rebadged Highlander/4Runner/TLCs and CR-V/Pilots, people just assume that Infiniti must do that as well.

    How long before BMW responds with a 3.0TT powered X3 worked over by the M division?

  • avatar
    Buick61

    Um, it’s Sarah Connor, not O’Conner. GOSH!

  • avatar

    Buick61 :

    Um, it’s Sarah Connor, not O’Conner. GOSH!

    Sorry. I always get her mixed up with Sandra Day O’Connor. (Don’t ask.)

    Text amended.

  • avatar
    whatdoiknow1

    Living in an area of the country where the roads are filled with potholes and other major road imprefections I have come to actually appreciate vehicles of this nature. Not quite a car but not quite an SUV. If you can live without the oversized rims and undersized tires the extra suspension travel and ground clearance as a major advantage and added a degree of comfort to the ride that is lost on our beat to hell streets and highways. IMO the extra suspension travel also add to the life of the vehicle by providing an extra level of insulation from the crashing and jarring and vehicle endures driving on roads that the average sport sedan was not designed to deal with.

    There is a lot to admire about this vehicle, staring with its UNDER 4000lb curb weight, the fact that it does have a useable hatch and fold down rear seats, and powerful engine, excellent road handling and manners, very good (if not perfect)interior fit and finish, and to top it all off a very competitive price.

    I’m one of the few Americans that have about zero use for a car with a trunk. Trunks just plain SUCK! I dont care what the advertised cubic foot volume is, trying to get anything not tiny or shaped like a suit case is a royal pain in the ass if not impossible at all.

    For someone in the NYC Metro area that is willing to spend a few bucks on a decent ride, that needs a degree of utility, that needs winter traction, and wants something reasonable sporty but can only have one ride this is an excellent choice.

    P.S. you will not look like a total dork when you install a roof rack on this thing either!

  • avatar

    whatdoiknow1: IMO the extra suspension travel also add to the life of the vehicle by providing an extra level of insulation from the crashing and jarring and vehicle endures driving on roads that the average sport sedan was not designed to deal with I agree, in theory. In practice, as stated in the review, the FM-platformed EX35 is a plenty crashy vehicle. It's certainly less comfortable over rough roads than the G35 upon which it's based (save the FX' rear suspension).

  • avatar
    jd arms

    LMAO. I match LtSolo’s profile pretty well: gelled hair – check, Tag watch – check, Brooks Brothers and Ralph Lauren – check, regular at the gym – check, coffee addict – check, but I only go to Starbucks when my options are limited. I have no bluetooth though, just a regular cell phone, but I’ll get right on that so I can achieve full poseurdom.

    I also have two Infinitis, the FX and the I35, a rebadged Maxima. I have owned four Nissan products and all have been reliable so far. I have owned an Acura. If Buick made something I liked, I would shop them too. I guess I’m drawn to the “near-luxury no man’s land.” I like electronic gadgetry too. The Acura RDX gadgetry? Sweet. GPS that tracks the sun location and properly cools one side of the car…that is so freaking cool. That is Rush, Cygnus X1 cool.

    As for the EX I do know Infiniti is niche marketing this vehicle to singles and dinks (dual income no kids). With the EX’s weak-ass storage capacity I know I will never own one; in order to get our small family (3) with 2 small dogs to Tahoe multiple times a year in our FX, we have to use a Thule roof rack (does that qualify for poseur points?). And I cannot believe the EX gets worse mileage than the FX (which also inhales fuel). I will say this about the FX – my wife loves it; she is a “see over traffic” person (I know, I know). I like it too – it meets our needs….but….

    ….Infiniti should have built a G or M wagon instead of the EX. A G35x wagon. A 307 HP, AWD wagon. The EX? Well, I think I would rather have a A6 Avant or A3 with the 3.2 at least until the window motors short out during a storm.

    I test drove a 2006 M45 on Friday and a 2005 A6 on Saturday, and Infiniti still has a ways to go to match the Audi interior.

    Infiniti should also lose the QX56. What a POS. It is the modern, SUV equivalent of the 6000SUX.

    Good review…this is why I read this site.

  • avatar
    starlightmica

    jd arms:

    There was a JDM wagon variant of the 1st gen G35, the Nissan Stagea, which of course never made it to these shores.

    EDIT: Nissan Stagea Japanese site

  • avatar
    jd arms

    starlightmica:

    That car would fit my needs. Talk about a q-ship. A Skyline station wagon….awesome. I can see it now,

    Sideways baseball cap baggy pants street racer guy:
    “Dude. You drive a station wagon? That is weak.”

    Me:
    “Yes. It is weak. Now move along…nothing to see here.”

    Of course it did not come to the states. Why?
    Because that would have been sensible. Case in point: I showed the picture to my wife. Her response, “I still like my FX better. I can see over traffic.”

    Sigh.

    Thanks for the link.

  • avatar
    BlisterInTheSun

    @Matthew Danda:

    “How much do you want to bet that, in the year 2015, the maintenance costs of a seven-year-old 2008 EX35 will equal the cost of the payments on a brand new replacement?”

    I agree that auto manufacturers might be taking a new tact for engineering-in obsolescence to kick-in right around the time your payments are finished. Instead of falling apart mechanically, peeople will want to jettison a sophisticated vehicle at the end of its warranty period AND get all the latest and greatest electronic do-hickery.

  • avatar
    AKM

    Thanks for the review! I was wondering about the point of this vehicle, as it really seemed too close in size and capability to the FX for comfort…
    And to think that because of this, we’ll never see a real G35 wagon, which could be a true bomb…

    ATTESA ET-S: longest electronic acronym ever. Looks like it’s all this vehicle aspires to.

  • avatar
    jkross22

    I sat in this at the LA Auto Show and really liked it. I would have preferred a G35 wagon, but hey, that’s not what consumers are buying (at least not en masse).

    And what’s wrong with Bluetooth… so, I look like a snapper head, but with both hands on the wheel, I’m feeling a lot safer than fumbling for a phone at 40-80 mph. I wish the moronic chowderheads that don’t use Bluetooth while yapping along with me would at least see the safety in having both hands free to eat, shave, read, pick nose, etc, etc.

    I don’t like Starbuck’s and while I do put a little bit of gel in, I have no Brooks Bros. stuff. I’m more the chino and t-shirt kind eating at Chipotle. Why waste the calories and fat on something at Fourbucks anyway.

  • avatar
    JuniorMint

    Now now, stop making fun of the segment of our population with money, but no taste. They need something to drive, too.

  • avatar
    Mrb00st

    say what you will about it being useless, it looks good, has five doors, and is fast. I wouldn’t kick one out of bed.

  • avatar
    jd arms

    JuniorMint:
    “Now now, stop making fun of the segment of our population with money, but no taste. They need something to drive, too.”

    Absolutely. The whole point embracing the bourgeoisie lifestyle is so I can enjoy the taste-free shiny material goodies and self-satisfying, status indicating labels….

    ….provided the shiny objects are slightly used and those fancy labels come from outlets and sale racks. Hence the choice is Infiniti rather than BMW.

  • avatar
    kovachian

    “Matthew Danda :

    With all those electronics, and the insanely high cost of replacement parts these days, I wonder how much it will cost to maintain the vehicle once it hits 100,000 miles?

    How much do you want to bet that, in the year 2015, the maintenance costs of a seven-year-old 2008 EX35 will equal the cost of the payments on a brand new replacement?” Believe it or not, that’s part of the point in making all these flavor-of-the-week vehicles; to provide you with motivation to ditch that vehicle that you finally paid off, and hurry up and jump into a new one and give the manufacturer more of your money.

    For those who decide to keep their vehicle and their warranty vanishes, they’ll be saddled with absurdly expensive parts (that’ll probably never be available at an auto parts store) for maintenance and repair, thereby still sucking you into giving the manufacturer more money even if you don’t buy a new car.

    This after-the-honeymoon phase in the vehicle’s life translates to piss-poor resale and for good reason obviously. Ya see that $180K Merc over there? Take a guess at what it’ll be worth in 5-6 years.

  • avatar
    KatiePuckrik

    This car looks a lot like the Nissan Qashqai.

  • avatar
    jurisb

    Why do you worry so much about those gizmos going wild? Have you heard of Infiniti being unreliable? nope. That`s why nissan has 34 models in their range!!!! 34 models!!! unbelievable!!! this is where you get car building expertize!! this is where you get product back up!!! Real, tangible, with real doors and horns!! (Not just media hype over rethink rebadge vapourware). 34 models with no swapable a-pillars . And Infiniti has got 6 models( that don`t copy nissan sheetmetal). And if EX doesn`t seem to have distinction from FX , Robert how can you tell bimmers or merces apart? Just by price tag? I bet even your two stars will not stop infiniti`s sales march!!! Anyway, why they wouldn`t sell a car that looks good, is powerful, handles well, is nicely assembled together and has a logo of one of the most reliable near-luxury manufacturer in the Universe as seen by Hawking.Gizmos? yes! Gimmicks? no!

  • avatar
    Lantern42

    Good lord. Two stars while the Taurus X gets four? Something is very wrong here, as the rating system doesn’t make the least bit of sense.

    First off, complaining that Infiniti gathered Audi DNA is questionable. And for what reason? Because the interior is nice? Kinda weak for an argument. Also, why have we begun to complain that an automakers offerings resemble each other? So the cars can’t look like other brands, or cars from the same brand?

    Finally, Acura isn’t lacking any street cred. The TL and MDX see to that. I thought this site wrote reviews that discarded the lame, superfluous trains of thought that revolved around brand image. “Experts” said the FX was destined to fail. The EX is proof that the “experts” can’t make the right call.

  • avatar
    satwar

    I’ve been watching this car, with optimistic anticipation, for the past six months. The concept of a small luxury crossover was just what I was looking for. Unfortunately this crossover has crossed over too far for me, it’s simply not versatile or practical enough for a primary vehicle.

    The FX is a versatile design as a luxury sport crossover that can be used as the primary vehicle. The EX seems to be designed as a highly discretionary luxury sport crossover.

    I wish Infiniti luck with the EX, but I’m going to wait for the redesign of the FX.

  • avatar
    shaker

    What gets me is that there is no innovation here; it’s a damned gas hog loaded with toys — BFD.
    Oh, well, soon you’ll be able to use the GPS/NAV system to verify your place in line at the gas station (when Chavez pulls the plug).

  • avatar
    davey49

    Carmakers should remember that the S in SUV stands for “sport” not “sporty”. Sport meaning camping, fishing, hunting, mountain climbing, boating, etc.

  • avatar
    davey49

    Gizmos Gone Wild! sounds good
    The Taurus X gets 4 stars because it does its intended job very well. The EX apparently neither has no intended purpose nor does any well.

  • avatar
    gsp

    Infinity are building good reliable vehicles and I considered their FX45 recently but bought a X5 instead. My father in law bought a G35X a few months ago and loves it. Consumers reports give their cars good ratings. This will sell well in spite of the horrible fuel consumption, something Infinity can’t seem to engineer if you factor power and weight of their cars.

    Wagons are the way to go. Why didn’t I buy a BMW wagon? They cost more. X5 is $20K cheaper than a 535 Touring.

    Until manufacturers put quality wagons on the road in USA/Canada that are competitive option for option with SUV’s nobody will buy them.

    Vulva are the only ones that get the wagon thing right, but they have their own issues.

    I agree with a previous comment that standard trunks on cars are useless.

  • avatar
    Strippo

    Vulva are the only ones that get the wagon thing right, but they have their own issues.

    Vulva wagon? You mean like in Kill Bill?

  • avatar
    Lantern42

    The EX does it’s job very well. It fill the shoes of the FX because the FX is supposed to grow to be the size of the X5/MDX. (Think optional third row.)

    All this proves is that you’re complaining about a piece of the puzzle without seeing the whole picture. Infiniti has made its share of bad choices. They won’t screw up a formula that has a record of success.

    I like having gizmos in my car, provided they aren’t iDrive-like or intelligent cruise control. I use what I like, and next time I decline to buy what I didn’t like.

  • avatar

    I’d be interested if it:
    –rode a bit lower (as in hatch rather than SUV)
    –lost a few hundred pounds
    –offered a manual transmission

    I’d probably be hunting for a SportCross, but no manual there either.

    In general, compact performance-oriented SUVs have failed to take off. The Mazda CX-7, BMW X3, Acura RDX–none of them have done terribly well.

    As for reliability, TrueDelta should have an initial result for the EX sooner rather than later, as we did for the 2007 G35–and are about to do for the 2008.

    http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

  • avatar
    Johnson Schwanz

    Quote:

    # Strippo :
    January 1st, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    Vulva are the only ones that get the wagon thing right, but they have their own issues.

    Vulva wagon? You mean like in Kill Bill?

    Nah, I think he means “Vulva” as in “Volvo,” due to their traits with wagons.

  • avatar
    Gubbins

    I don’t know how far Mr. Farago pushes HIS A-pedal in day-to-day use but on a recent 1000+ mile trip in an EX my overall mileage was 24.5, and that included miles of open interstate @>75mph. In city use mileage in the high teens was easy. With a final drive two ranks lower numerically than the G35 sedan, the EX returns decent mileage, especially considering its performance.  And another thing, the EX is not intended for off-road use nor does it claim to be. In AWD form it’s a capable low mu vehicle that, with dedicated snow tires, is near unstoppable in snow, the major reason people buy vehicles of this type. The silly “ATTESA” acronym may be overwrought but the system works very well indeed!

  • avatar

    Gubbins :

    I don’t know how far Mr. Farago pushes HIS A-pedal in day-to-day use but on a recent 1000+ mile trip in an EX my overall mileage was 24.5, and that included miles of open interstate @>75mph. In city use mileage in the high teens was easy.

    Congratulations on beating the official EPA estimates. That, sir, is a noteworthy accomplishment which I could not duplicate, despite the old fogey that I have become.

  • avatar
    gsp

    Old Volvos were like a “Box”.

    New Volvos have more bends and folds like a “Vulva”.

  • avatar
    chamar

    I don’t use my car for carrying any pessengers, rather to move stuff around. In fact, the other 5 seats spend more time outside the car than inside.

    I drive a 99 Ford Windstar, and its not a bad car as such. And trust me, that car looks as a decent replacement.

  • avatar
    KevHF

    Actually, Farago, the EX35 is rated as more fuel efficient by the EPA than the FX35.
    The EX35 ratings:
    RWD 17/24
    AWD 16/23
    The FX35 ratings:
    RWD: 15/22
    AWD: 15/20

    And that disparity doesn’t take into account that the EX35 sports 20 more HP according to the newer 2004 SAE ratings. Get your information straight.

  • avatar

    KevHF :

    Doh! I compared it to the FX45!

    I have corrected the text and regret my mistake.

    RF

  • avatar
    KevHF

    Thanks for the correction. Arguably, the EX35 is not less practical than the G35 sedan. While the EX35 has less rear leg room than the G35 sedan, it also has more cargo-carrying ability with its hatch and split-folding rear seat (The G has only a fixed seat with a pass-through).

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    revolver1978

    I’m soon to be in the market for a 3-dog friendly vehicle, and live in the snow belt. My first choice? A 5-series wagon w/ AWD. Unfortunately, I can’t stomach the thought of paying over 30k for a 4 yr old wagon from a marque with a reputation for expensive repairs.
    The market for AWD wagons is pretty limited. My sig other is VERY enamoured with this vehicle (which I have repeatly stated I can’t afford anyway.) When I look at the hatch (or what infiniti calls a hatch)the utility is gone by puttin a piece of glass diagonally from the top of the rear seat to the back belt line. (I don’t haul trapezoids much.) I’m hoping to check it out in person at the Auto Show next month, just to confirm that this thing has less usable cargo space than a WRX.
    (said WRX, with it’s improvemnts for ’09, will probably be my next vehicle.)

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    energetik9

    My wife and I looked and drove this car when shopping for a new car for her. It had technology….but most competitors do also. It had the edge in nice lines, but it feel far short when it came to usable space in the rear. One criteria for us is to be able to hold a dog in the back and this just didn’t work. The sloping rear cut out any praticality. Short version….this vehicle was 3rd on our list. Nice and all…just not worth considering.


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