Jeep Grand Wagoneer: Bigger, Longer, Tougher… Hellcat-powered?

Steph Willems
by Steph Willems
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The shadowy future Jeep model that probably Grand Wagoneer. It’s expected that the largest of all Jeeps will arrive not too imminently, using the 2019 Ram 1500’s frame as a backbone.

There’ll be size and luxury in spades (the thing might top out above $100k), but until now we hadn’t heard anything about power. It’s now possible that we’ll see a Trackhawk variant that uses the upgraded 6.2-liter supercharged V8 found in Dodge’s Road & Track, powertrain component supplier ZF lists a beefed-up eight-speed transmission bound for the Jeep Grand Wagoneer Trackhawk. The doc shows Fiat Chrysler refers to the model’s platform as “WS.”

ZF identifies the model’s transmission as a ZF-8HP95X, a version of the existing 8HP “Torqueflight” family that’s been upgraded to handle more torque. The existing Dodge Challenger and Charger Hellcats use the 8HP90. The Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk uses the 8HP95.

Interestingly, the ZF document dates to the spring of 2017, revealing that either FCA has had this idea almost from the get-go, or it’s an idea that’s come and gone. An FCA spokesman denies knowledge of such an impending vehicle.

If it’s legit, how much power can we expect from this largest of Trackhawks? According to ZF, roughly 718 horsepower. That’s pretty much the same as the 717 hp generated by the 2019 Challenger Hellcat, so we can assume a torque figure similar to that coupe’s 656 lb-ft. (It doesn’t look like the 2019 Challenger Hellcat Redeye’s 797 hp 6.2L HEMI is destined for any other vehicle.)

The development of the Wagoneer and high-zoot Grand Wagoneer hasn’t been a swift affair. Initially targeted for a 2018 launch, the models’ path to production has been a winding one. Originally said to be a lengthened version of the next-generation Grand Cherokee, CEO Sergio Marchionne said last year that the twin utilities would boast body-on-frame construction. That means using the Ram 1500’s underpinnings. Of course, the next-gen 1500 is having its own troubles leaving the starting gate.

It now looks like the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer won’t appear until the 2021 model year, meaning the earliest we’d see them is sometime in 2020.

[Image: Fiat Chrysler Automobiles]

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  • Paul Paul on Jul 17, 2018

    I have 2007 & 2008 grands. I love everything about them. Both gave been reliable. I am hearing many bad reliability problems with grands produced after 2012. TCM, shifter, recalls like mad. Do I want to revive a 2011 or earlier? The high prices FCA wants for grands and expected more $$ for a Wagoneer rich mans off road suburban 4x4 Out of site for a medium wage family. Dream machines that will keep you in the auto garage. Oh, but it looks cool and goes off road! They need to fix the reliability and actually warranty DEFECTS.

  • Art Vandelay Art Vandelay on Jul 17, 2018

    cynical crap

  • Fred I don't know about those big screens. Is there a way to minimize the display, so it's not so distracting? Especially at night the glow doesn't make it easy for me.
  • Arthur Dailey Toronto Blue Jays' games are only available on AM radio. As I am 'on the road' quite often when the Jays play that is my only option for listening to the game. So an AM radio is something of a 'must have' for me.
  • JMII My brother tracked one of these for several years... it will embarrass other sports cars. He sold it to someone who still rips it around on track days. Given my previous VW experience I wouldn't touch it but these are surprising quick and handle well for hatchback credit going to a decent AWD system. $16k seems crazy, but Rs aren't that common and this one appears to be in great condition and seems well sorted.
  • Arthur Dailey I meant the grille and the profile along the passenger area. Look closely and it is reminiscent of the Journey.
  • Daniel 16500 pesos