By on July 17, 2018

The shadowy future Jeep model that probably should have been in production by now continues to entice fans of the original Grand Wagoneer. It’s expected that the largest of all Jeeps will arrive not too imminently, using the 2019 Ram 1500’s frame as a backbone.

There’ll be size and luxury in spades (the thing might top out above $100k), but until now we hadn’t heard anything about power. It’s now possible that we’ll see a Trackhawk variant that uses the upgraded 6.2-liter supercharged V8 found in Dodge’s refreshed 2019 Challenger Hellcat. Possible, but perhaps not probable.

According to an internal document uncovered by Bozi Tatarevic and published in Road & Track, powertrain component supplier ZF lists a beefed-up eight-speed transmission bound for the Jeep Grand Wagoneer Trackhawk. The doc shows Fiat Chrysler refers to the model’s platform as “WS.”

ZF identifies the model’s transmission as a ZF-8HP95X, a version of the existing 8HP “Torqueflight” family that’s been upgraded to handle more torque. The existing Dodge Challenger and Charger Hellcats use the 8HP90. The Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk uses the 8HP95.

Interestingly, the ZF document dates to the spring of 2017, revealing that either FCA has had this idea almost from the get-go, or it’s an idea that’s come and gone. An FCA spokesman denies knowledge of such an impending vehicle.

If it’s legit, how much power can we expect from this largest of Trackhawks? According to ZF, roughly 718 horsepower. That’s pretty much the same as the 717 hp generated by the 2019 Challenger Hellcat, so we can assume a torque figure similar to that coupe’s 656 lb-ft. (It doesn’t look like the 2019 Challenger Hellcat Redeye’s 797 hp 6.2L HEMI is destined for any other vehicle.)

The development of the Wagoneer and high-zoot Grand Wagoneer hasn’t been a swift affair. Initially targeted for a 2018 launch, the models’ path to production has been a winding one. Originally said to be a lengthened version of the next-generation Grand Cherokee, CEO Sergio Marchionne said last year that the twin utilities would boast body-on-frame construction. That means using the Ram 1500’s underpinnings. Of course, the next-gen 1500 is having its own troubles leaving the starting gate.

It now looks like the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer won’t appear until the 2021 model year, meaning the earliest we’d see them is sometime in 2020.

[Image: Fiat Chrysler Automobiles]

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12 Comments on “Jeep Grand Wagoneer: Bigger, Longer, Tougher… Hellcat-powered?...”


  • avatar
    Sub-600

    A $100K Jeep. The apocalypse is upon us.

    • 0 avatar
      Hummer

      At least they didn’t use unibody construction and rather made it a real SUV as should be expected of a top of the line Jeep.

    • 0 avatar
      Lie2me

      In a world of quarter-million dollar Bentley and Rolls Royce SUVs a $100K flagship Jeep sounds like a long over due bargain. Can’t wait to see it

      • 0 avatar
        JohnTaurus

        I agree, if they can pull it off, why not? I don’t blame them for trying. It sounds like it’ll be a halo model, so it may be more important for selling the lesser versions than it is in itself. I’m sure Dodge is happy to sell someone a Charger R/T, even if they originally came in to look at the Hellcat.

    • 0 avatar
      snakebit

      In the Land of Lincoln(well, FoMoCo) a Black Label Expedition-whoops, Navigator sticker is darn close to 100K now. Let’s hope that FCA can show more value in the Grand Wagoneer if it’s going to run alongside Range Rovers(price wise) and stay away from service departments(unlike Range Rover).

  • avatar
    ajla

    CUMMINS Jeep.

  • avatar
    Drzhivago138

    Grand Wagoneer: The Half-Life 3 of SUVs.

  • avatar
    Paul

    I have 2007 & 2008 grands. I love everything about them. Both gave been reliable. I am hearing many bad reliability problems with grands produced after 2012. TCM, shifter, recalls like mad. Do I want to revive a 2011 or earlier? The high prices FCA wants for grands and expected more $$ for a Wagoneer rich mans off road suburban 4×4
    Out of site for a medium wage family. Dream machines that will keep you in the auto garage. Oh, but it looks cool and goes off road! They need to fix the reliability and actually warranty DEFECTS.

  • avatar
    Art Vandelay

    cynical crap

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