By on June 28, 2018

Dodge uploaded a teaser video last night that appeared to indicate Fiat Chrysler’s performance division is working on another ludicrously overpowered vehicle. In it, we see a modern Challenger blasting down the salt flats against an auditory backdrop of a raging V8 with loads of supercharger whine.

The Challenger loses focus as it approaches the camera, but we can just barely make out the car’s twin hood scoops before things faded to black. Then the text “LOCK: RED797_19” flashes for a moment, with the reassurance that whatever we’ve just witnessed is coming soon. Dodge makes a habit of issuing cryptic teasers for his highest horsepower models. The prelude to the Hellcat and Demon felt a little like playing Myst, and this latest teaser rekindled that sense of intrigue and frustration.

Fortunately, we already have details on — and photos of — this new Mopar beast. 

 

Based on documents released by FCA at a Michigan track event Thursday morning, we now know this mystery vehicle is the Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Redeye. It’s basically the widebody Hellcat infused with the Demon’s soul. That translates into 797 horsepower and 707 foot-pounds of torque, which Dodge claims is good enough for a 3.4-second sprint to 60 mph.

At 10.8 seconds, the Redeye won’t outperform the Demon in the quarter mile. But the manufacturer does say the supercharged Hemi can push the muscle car all the way to 203 mph, matching the dragster’s top speed.

While Dodge didn’t explicitly say so, we appear to be looking at a gently detuned version of the 6.2-liter V8 found in the 2018 Demon— which was just a tuned-up version of the Hellcat motor. A cursory examination of the unit by our managing editor seems to confirm this, too.

Here’s some more good news, the standard Hellcat also gets a boost in power for the 2019 model year. Now rated at 717 horsepower and 656 lb-ft, the “base” model can raise its fur a little higher, and probably yours, in the process. This is all in addition to the company launching a bevy of new performance packages for the Charger and Challenger line. Dodge really does seem possessed right now.

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60 Comments on “Dodge Has Something Insane up Its Sleeve: the Challenger Hellcat Redeye...”


  • avatar
    Sub-600

    Mopar or no car. This may not be funny though when these used Hellcats become affordable for kids, or me for that matter.

  • avatar
    R Henry

    “Dodge really does seem possessed right now.”

    I kinda view it as a semi-pathetic niche-creep….making every effort to keep an ancient platform marketable.

    • 0 avatar
      EX35

      Does the fact that it’s an old platform make it inferior, though? Are more modern platforms actually better? Do they perform better?

      • 0 avatar
        MoparRocker74

        “Does the fact that it’s an old platform make it inferior, though? Are more modern platforms actually better? Do they perform better?”

        BINGO!!! The LX was a damn fine platform in 2005 and its only been further refined along the way. Whats the point of doing a full revamp if what you have already works? Any glaring flaws have been mostly weeded out of these. Starting fresh means a fresh new batch of bugs to have to work out.

        FWIW, Toyota has used platforms for just as long if not longer, and they were ALWAYS bland boring crapwagons. The new camry is a ground up redesign and yet its STILL a dull, uninspiring appliance no matter what the commercials are saying.

      • 0 avatar
        R Henry

        Does Challenger handle as competently as its more modern Ford and Chevy competitors? No. Nuff said.

        • 0 avatar
          ajla

          What are the great handling modern Ford and Chevy competitors to the Charger and 300?

          The SHO is just as old and even heavier than the LX sedans while the SS/G8 is dead forever.

          • 0 avatar
            PrincipalDan

            What’s hilarious is the best competitor right now is probably a Kia Stinger GT. HP and prices are pretty close to the Charger R/T. While the 1/4 mile times are close to a Scat Pack.

        • 0 avatar
          MoparRocker74

          Challenger has NO direct competition at Ford or GM. Its a muscle car, not a sportscar. Mustang/Camaro might edge out the Challenger on a roadcourse but Challenger is an infinity billion times better all around car, especially if its your only ride and if youre the tall broad shouldered type…both apply to me. And a little shopping at Eibach will have me right there in the twisties should I go that route.

      • 0 avatar
        redliner

        If crash test results are any indication, yes.

    • 0 avatar
      SlowMyke

      They were left in a lurch by the neglect of multiple parent companies, what would you have them do? As a going concern employing many hard workers, it’s kinda the point to keep their product as marketable as they can. They can only do so much before the parent company has to step in and allow for new platforms.

      That said, an old platform isn’t inherently a bad one. There are many enthusiast darlings that are coveted specifically for a certain platform and its dynamics.

  • avatar
    islander800

    I keep wondering when the insurance companies are going to step in and stop this runaway horsepower race, like they did in the early 1970s, ending the first golden era of muscle cars along with government mandates that restricted emissions.

    Let me be a scrooge and suggest manufacturers like FCA are being irresponsible in marketing vehicles with this much power on tap for street use. In my experience, the people buying these vehicles include a certain percentage of sociopaths who use the power available without any regard for public safety.

    Just a few weeks ago, in heavy traffic on northbound I-5 in greater Seattle, we were passed by two racers, a hemi Charger and a Maserati sedan going flat out, doing well over 100 mph in the far left lane and the paved left shoulder. Fortunately, they stopped just before impacting a stopped vehicle up ahead on the shoulder.

    I like cars with some power as much as the next guy, but I suspect insurers will soon put a stop to this madness.

    • 0 avatar
      cammark

      I’m pretty sure the insurance companies get their money up-front/regularly with the premiums on these cars.

      Unlike 50 years ago, today you can have outrageous power/acceleration and low emissions (or no emissions – see Tesla P100D).

      Any car on sale today, and most of all the cars built in the past two decades can be misused to the degree that they pose an equal threat to public safety as a 700+hp one. It’s not even hard as most of them also feature automatic transmissions and power steering.

    • 0 avatar
      SlowMyke

      I’m not sure why people get up in arms about the hellcat cars. People who drive like idiots can just as easily buy a Corvette, mustang GT, Camaro zl1, or any number of German cars with 450 – 650 hp that are just as fast. Hell, they could buy a focus RS or just about any modern car and drive 100+ down the shoulder of the freeway. Driving like an idiot has nothing to do with the car available and everything to do with the idiot behind the wheel and their upbringing, training, and mental state.

      Are people really just pissed that it’s a Chrysler product? I seriously don’t get it. No one is lamenting the irresponsibility of any other automaker, yet every single automaker has a product that is at least nearly as capable as a hellcat. Except maybe Hyundai/Kia, but i think they’re trying to fix that. Is it the price? Are richer people better drivers and more responsible? I think YouTube is all the proof you need to know that’s not true.

      Can someone who is mad about the hellcats explain with something other than “think about teenagers and rednecks drag racing in the neighborhood!” I’m seriously askng because i don’t understand.

      • 0 avatar
        SlowMyke

        How does one go about getting a comment out of moderation hell? There’s a nice comment this is replying to that’s been hanging out for a few hours…

    • 0 avatar

      Ok ok – I’ll get off your lawn. Jeez.

    • 0 avatar
      TMA1

      These cars may have more power, but they also have functioning brakes and safety systems that will keep insurance payouts down.

    • 0 avatar
      redapple

      island—

      Oh yes.
      Please stop these cars.
      Them bad.

      Go Back to your friggin Prius.

    • 0 avatar
      USAFMech

      My friends and I on litre-bikes would blow by the knuckleheads in the Charger and Maserati. And we’ve seen Hellcats beat by Teslas. You may want to stay in your rocking chair from here on out.

      “In my experience, the people buying these vehicles include a certain percentage of sociopaths who use the power available without any regard for public safety.”

      Congrats, you’ve found a normally distributed population.

      “I like cars with some power as much as the next guy…”

      No, you don’t. You’re an annoying busybody the likes of which give lifeblood to HOAs and other organizations spawned from Hades.

      “Fortunately, they stopped just before impacting a stopped vehicle up ahead on the shoulder.”

      Or, not sociopaths but individuals speeding and improperly using lanes but not so reckless as to actually not be able to come to a controlled and complete stop with the sudden appearance of an unexpected obstacle.

      I deserved all of my speeding tickets and “the state” is entitled to have their say. You, Deputy Fife, are welcome to get a dashcam and assist the prosecution. But you’ll pry all the horsepower I can make and the definition of “excessive” from my cold dead hands.

      • 0 avatar
        MoparRocker74

        ” And we’ve seen Hellcats beat by Teslas.”

        True…provided the HC is wearing the garbage oem tires and the driver is a noob. Any geezer out of the nursing home can get the same results in a Tesla consistently…the computer is doing all the heavy lifting. In a HC, you have to learn to EARN that win, theres no participation trophies. If HC driver is trainable, he’ll come back and sh!t all over that tesla…and he’s already dollars ahead by about $100K out the door.

    • 0 avatar
      mcs

      “and stop this runaway horsepower race”

      There’s the rumored 1,000 hp version of the C8. Even that is nothing compared to the 1,914 hp Rimac Concept 2. 800 hp? that’s nothing these days.

    • 0 avatar
      SSJeep

      Wow, what an interesting and somewhat immature statement on a car enthusiasts website.

      Today’s muscle cars are multiple times more safe and efficient than muscle cars of the past. If insurance companies would insure a Viper, or Aston Martin, or Ghost Drophead, why wouldn’t they insure a Challenger Hellcat? Premiums are high, they make money, there are limits to their liability, and they have exclusionary riders for track use. There is no reason not to insure a car, any car, especially when driven by an adult with a clean driving record.

      Its all about math and statistics Islander, not about perception and control.

    • 0 avatar

      Not that anyone will read this, but I was told by a mechanic that works at a local Dodge shop that they recently had someone come in and buy a Demon for their 16 year old son. Does that make sense to anyone?!?!?!

  • avatar
    NoID

    Nice try GM. 750 HP? Meh.

    • 0 avatar
      mcs

      GM has an answer:

      https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1116966_report-mid-engine-c8-corvette-to-get-flat-crank-600-and-800-hp-v-8s-1000-hp-awd-hybrid-version-but-no-manual

  • avatar

    And a curb weight well over 4,000 lbs . . .

    • 0 avatar
      PrincipalDan

      That’s the reason the V6 is a no go for me in the LX platform. Heck my 2nd gen Highlander is only 4200 lbs and I find the 3.5 V6 sufficient but not exciting.

  • avatar
    James2

    797… 707… 717… Are we sure we aren’t talking Boeing? (The 797 is supposedly a new plane coming in a few years.)

  • avatar
    EBFlex

    “Ludicrously overpowered”

    What is this The Truth about Knitting? Or The Truth about Laundry?

    Jeeze I thought this was a car blog…..

    • 0 avatar
      Sub-600

      The Truth about Hypermiling.

    • 0 avatar
      MoparRocker74

      Hey this is 2018…apparently someone decided its now ok to be one of those delicate types that’s afraid of their own shadow. If you’re a risk taker, thrill seeker or rebellious type…that’s toxic masculinity and people will get ‘triggered’. Hopefully FCA has a side hedge in fidget spinners and stress puppies…they’ll win twice!

    • 0 avatar
      USAFMech

      Yeah, TTAC went full Canadian a while back. You never go full Canadian.

      The biggest problem is that some of the other platforms have gotten even worse at being press-release farms (Autoblog), or so edgy they fell off a cliff (Jalopnik’s front page). The Drive does pretty well, but they don’t come off as much of enthusiasts. Motor1 has pretty good coverage and writing, but not much personality.

      • 0 avatar
        Tele Vision

        ‘Full Canadian’ is ignoring this crack-bait hoopla one-trick-pony garbage unless it’s a fourth car. ‘Full American’ is going ever further into debt to ‘buy’ one of these device-extenders and then bitching about gas and tire costs incurred during your fat commute.

        Q.E.D.

    • 0 avatar
      Maymar

      Who said ludicrously overpowered had to be a bad thing? I’m pretty sure Dodge would embrace that descriptor.

    • 0 avatar
      SSJeep

      The Truth About the Perception that the Challenger Hellcat Redeye is Overpowered, but any Ferrari, Lamborghini, or McLaren is not.

  • avatar
    redapple

    Golden age of American Muscle is now.

    I watched Barrett Jackson over the weekend and laughed.

  • avatar
    06M3S54B32

    Wow. Another POS retro dodge from the ’70s. It just needs primer all over it.LOL

    • 0 avatar
      Sub-600

      ‘70s two-tone…bondo and primer. Yeah! Those were the days.

      • 0 avatar
        MoparRocker74

        Id take a primered ’74 Duster over ANY brand new CUV or sedan…so long as that duster is well sorted, and rocks a good running 340/360 and slot mags!

        • 0 avatar
          Sub-600

          I had a ‘69 Road Runner and a ‘70 GTX, both 440s, back in the late ‘70s. Plenty of tire shredding power, lots of fun. But the handling sucked and they had Mickey Mouse brakes. My current Charger R/T is far and away a better car, not even close. The styling of my GTX cannot be topped though, a beautiful machine.

  • avatar
    MoparRocker74

    Just keeps getting better at Dodge! This is like 99% of what the Demon was but without the 3000 production limit. I do wish theyd have kept the 18″ wheels but oh well. The widebody kit and fatter rubber is what the Hellcat should have had all along…just getting the power to the ground has always been its biggest problem. I’m digging that dual snorkel hood too.

    That Indi-Go blue is absolutely gorgeous! It looks just a bit more saturated than the Deep Water blue on my ’09 which I love.

    The really awesome thing about these Challengers/Chargers is that the owners actually DRIVE them! At the night drags at PDX Int’l raceway, there was a wild mix of everything from R/Ts up to a Demon…which was driven to a 10.1 in the 1/4 by a lady with full interior, on pump gas and only a pair of Hoosiers out back to dial it in. Good times for enthusiasts!

  • avatar
    turbo_awd

    Any idea of the price on a Scat Pack + Bilstein? In the past, you had to go full SRT to get the suspension, and that stopped me from looking at it – I didn’t want to drop $50K+ on a Charger.. $35K on sale, hmmm…

    • 0 avatar
      PrincipalDan

      You could wait for the refresh to be released and see what the current one will be selling for. I’m sure that the dealers will have a few leftover. One dealer in Albuquerque had a 2017 Daytona in GREEN GO still on the lot a few weeks ago. I guess the color was making it a hard sell.

  • avatar
    midwestTDI

    So, no responsibility for fuel consumption? Are the big 3 so detached that they continue to show vehicle racing around the streets in the TV ads and thumb their noses at gas prices? Nice cars but you can’t drive these cars anywhere as a daily driver without burning through fuel. Just slays me that we continue to build vehicles that get *hitty gas mileage and everyone is fine with that fact (as long as I get mine attitude).

    • 0 avatar
      TMA1

      What are you complaining about, their gas consumption isn’t going to affect the price of your diesel.

    • 0 avatar
      krohde

      Welcome to America, where we are allowed to buy whatever legally-for-sale vehicle we damn well please. I think the gas tax should be raised significantly myself, but I have no desire to tell people that they can’t buy certain vehicles, as long as they meet emissions standards and want to pay the fuel premium.

      • 0 avatar
        PrincipalDan

        And how many people driving electrics or plug in hybrids know anything about where their electricity is produced?

        I’d wager that what is coming out of my tailpipe is cleaner than what comes out of the Cholla Power Plant (coal fired) not all that far from me.

        • 0 avatar
          Ermel

          You’d have to consider the environmental damage from getting the oil from the earth to your tank as well if you wanted to be honest about this. And the same for the coal, of course, but that doesn’t need to be refined out of oil sands, oil shale, or even liquid crude oil.

    • 0 avatar
      MoparRocker74

      $h!tty gas mileage? My buddys HC averaged 22mpg from Portland to Vegas. We where doing 80-90 most of the way there with plenty of time deep into the triple digits. My own R/T averaged just under 25mpg. Im ECSTATIC with that, for a car that looks, handles, accelerates like it does and I can drive 12 hours in feeling no pain. The V6 LX’s can top 30 mpg on the freeway if you want to pinch every penny til Lincoln whimpers.

      For what these cars are and what they bring to the table, the mpgs are great. If you want to piss away good money on some dorky eco-blob while going thru life forgoing any fun and excitement to scrimp a few dollars, knock yourself out. Me…its about the SMILES per gallon and the awesome friendships Ive made all because of some ridiculously overpowered muscle cars.

    • 0 avatar
      Ermel

      American carmakers and gas mileage? In the country of petrol V 10s in fullsize pickup trucks? You must be kidding.

      Seriously though, without having checked the numbers, I’m sure a Charger Hellcat will get better mpg than a big petrol-engined SUV or truck (unless you use it exclusively for tire-shredding), so this is really not much of an issue. And since you can’t even get near its top speed on public roads, safety concerns (or the question whether the car actually can handle that for any prolonged time) aren’t one either. This car is for posing, occasionally trying to win a red light race against a Tesla (and failing), and doing donuts in the Walmart parking lot.

      And really, it’s a fine automobile for these purposes.

    • 0 avatar
      Flipper35

      Actually the mileage isn’t that bad on these getting into the 20s in the real word, and even Car and Driver was in that range. (EPA is 22). It certainly could be your only car and not break the bank.

  • avatar
    OzCop

    I grew up in the middle of the muscle car era…I recall GTO’s, 442’s, Mustangs, Camaro’s, Fire birds, Hemi and 440 Road Runner’s and Super Bee’s, 383 and 340 Darts and Barracuda’s, representing each US manufacture of the era. They were all fast performers, but they all had something else in common. Early models had drum brakes, some with small 14″ wheels and tires, marshmallow suspension, and a steering ratio akin to a dump truck. Horsepower ratings ranged from 350 to 400 plus. MPG of any of them rarely exceeded 12.

    Comparing today’s super sedans, coupes, and sports cars is an apples and oranges debate. The superior tires, wheels, brakes, suspension, and steering geometry of today’s performance oriented cars, and even some basic transportation cars, are far superior to the 60/70 era muscle cars.

    Heck, radial tires were not even a thing until late 60s, and as I recall Detroit was slow to respond to the new radial design. Most of the cars offered in the 60’s still came equipped with fiberglass infused, red line, blue line, polyester, rayon or nylon construction, and were hardly speed rated when compared to those offered today. Brakes, steering and suspension would be a whole ‘nother topic…

  • avatar
    thegamper

    Sorry, wrong thread

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