By on January 29, 2018

2018 Buick Regal TourX - Image: Buick

For 2018, Buick split its new Regal into two body styles: a liftback and a wagon dubbed the TourX. SUVs and crossovers make up a large chunk of the Tri-Shield’s sales, but these two machines will arguably swallow as much or more cargo than some of their high-riding showroom brethren.

Upon the Regal’s rollout for 2018, the marque estimated the TourX take rate would be around 30 percent. Now, thanks to either a rethink of market demands or someone’s innate love of wagons, Buick has revised that number upwards.

According to the company, the first Buick wagon in more than 20 years could account for nearly 50 percent of Regal sales.

“We’re pretty realistic about where the car market’s at, but we’re getting some pretty good feedback on it,” Phil Brook, U.S. veep of marketing for Buick and GMC, told industry outlet Automotive News during a media drive in Arizona. “We’re flexible enough that we can flex things up and down. That’s not a problem.”

By being flexible with “things,” we assume Brook is talking about differences in the production line between the liftback and wagon versions of the Regal. Having the ability to quickly respond to consumer demand and ramp up one particular bodystyle would indeed be an advantage for Buick.

The midsize sedan market is shrinking like a freshman’s bank account, so moving the Regal into a niche market may prove to be a sensible shift. Buick expects to harvest shoppers from Subaru and Volvo showrooms, no mean feat when those two brands enjoy healthy buyer loyalty. As a bodystyle, liftbacks and wagons have generally been shunned by Americans like fetid cheese, making the marque’s foray into these markets an interesting one to track.

As a brand, Buick has been hovering around a quarter-million annual sales in America since 2014. That’s a healthy hike from the dark days of 2009 when the tri-shield barely cracked 100,000 units. To be fair, all hands were parked in death’s nursery at that time. Globally, Buick now sells over a million vehicles per year.

2018 Buick Regal TourX

2018 Buick Regal TourX

The all-wheel drive Regal TourX makes an opening bid of $29,070 compared to the Regal Sportback’s base price of $24,995. It’s a handsome wagon to this author’s jaundiced eye, particularly in the $395 color of Rioja Red.

Sadly, I’ll have to get my wagon fix elsewhere, as the TourX is – for now – not available in Canada.

[Images: General Motors]

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122 Comments on “Circling the Wagons: Buick Bullish on TourX...”


  • avatar
    Cactuar

    Pretty clean DLO on this Buick, I like it. If it has a V6 and a much quieter interior compared to the Outback, it should be a very nice place to be. The price premium could be justified (especially vs. higher Outback trims).

    • 0 avatar
      NormSV650

      The 2.0T has more torque with AWD at almost 300 lb-ft compared to the V6 at around 270. Plus the torwue come in lower and last longer with thr turbo-4.

      https://youtu.be/YtoTCbHpNoM

    • 0 avatar
      downunder

      Australian variants of the new Commodore will also get four-cylinder engines, although a naturally aspirated 230kW/370Nm V6 will also feature at the top end of both the liftback and Sportwagon lines.

    • 0 avatar
      Thinkin...

      Go on Buick, you’re 9/10 of the way there! Offer these with a manual — it’s already paired with this drivetrain in other markets — and call it a day. Who’d have thought that my next AWD manual wagon would be a Buick?

      The only option I ask that you make available is power memory seats. I can even crank my windows myself, but I can’t be the only person who’s a different size than my spouse… Memory seats have become my one non-negotiable, as my wife and I regularly drive both cars.

  • avatar
    tallguy130

    I love the idea of more wagons. The difference maker will be what kind of cash they throw on the hood. 30k won’t pull people away from their normal CUVs or Accords. 25k just may.

    In true GM fashion I assume the MSRP will be a quaint home between the dealer and customers but time will tell.

    • 0 avatar
      slavuta

      If my wife wants another SUV for the next car, I may try to sell her something like this instead. Preferably Volvo XCountry (unless Mazda6 wagon makes it here). But I know she likes Mazda CX9 already. Ha-ha. Having 4 Mazdas is too much even for me

  • avatar
    indi500fan

    These are definitely on my list as an off-lease bargain buy in a few years when the SRX eventually gives up.

    • 0 avatar
      brettc

      They probably will be cheap in a couple of years. I can’t afford one new but I’m thinking a used one could be affordable.

      I have concerns about parts availability since it’s an Opel and GM no longer owns Opel.
      But with PSA entering the U.S. market, maybe there’s nothing to worry about.

      • 0 avatar
        slavuta

        They probably use same parts as in other vehicles. so, you might just find then at your local Chevy dealer.

      • 0 avatar
        seanx37

        They will be cheap in a few months. No Buick goes out the door anything close to sticker price. And they still don’t sell. Once they sit on the lot for 4-6 months, then they will take damn near anything to move them.

  • avatar
    Sub-600

    The back end is wandering ever so slightly into Malibu Maxx territory, which isn’t a good thing. The rest of it looks good, for a GM product. Refreshing change from the snooze fest CUV offerings.

  • avatar
    d4rksabre

    I want to like these things, but after a year with my Impala in upstate NY I have to admit that the lack of ground clearance and the tight gap between tire and wheel well is a major PITA. I miss the utility of older full size sedans and wagons where the lowest point of the frame rails was maybe just below the center axis of the wheels. Now everything is grounded to the ground and collects ice and snow as if it were born to do so. I guess I understand why everyone buys crossovers and trucks now. Gone are the Caprice and the Roadmaster, cars of actual utility. Now we get things like the Tourx, a wagon that exhibits only the pretense of utility. :(

    • 0 avatar
      Steve_S

      It has as much room as an Outback, Nissan Murano or Ford Edge. To get more space you’d need a three row utility or van.

      • 0 avatar
        PrincipalDan

        If your idea of “utility” is carrying a 4×8 sheet of plywood, then yeah you’re going to be disappointed.

        There’s enough utility here to carry more stuff than I reasonably need to buy at Costco.

        • 0 avatar
          d4rksabre

          If all you’re doing is taking it to Costco on a nice day then the black plastic cladding seems a little pointless.

          • 0 avatar
            PrincipalDan

            Ummmm do you see how most Outback’s and Volvo wagons are getting used? lol

          • 0 avatar

            This morning on my commute, I floored it in my Outback to beat a set of [malfunctioning] railroad crossing arms which were coming down to block my path.

            I needed that cladding, and H-4 powah.

          • 0 avatar
            PrincipalDan

            Thank goodness you had a genuine 4 speed auto under your foot and not the CVT to wait for it to spool up. :-P

          • 0 avatar

            Ha

            CVT saves the day! Probably a quicker reaction than waiting for a downshift from an auto, I bet.

          • 0 avatar
            PrincipalDan

            The 5 speed auto in the Highlander is really starting to get on my nerves.

            “You wanna downshift?”

            “Yes I want to downshift, my right foot is telling you I want to downshift.”

            “Are you SURE. It’s going to hurt your fuel economy.”

            “YES I WANT TO DOWNSHIFT”

            With the exception of an old fashioned 3 speed auto I’ve found EVEN number of gear transmissions to be superior to ODD number of gear transmissions.

            As Alja as said – the Toyota 3.5 is a nice torquey engine but as eager to rev as an Olds 307 V8.

          • 0 avatar

            I have only driven my parent’s Highlander once or twice, and not long enough to notice that hesitation. Interesting.

          • 0 avatar
            PrincipalDan

            It just wants to hold it. No slurring like something going wrong, just wants to hold that higher gear.

            I’m sure I’m overly sensitive. Just when I’ve turned a corner from a stop and I’m trying to goose it to beat the next stoplight. Or beat a crossing gate sort of situation. Likely even the torque management of the transfer case stepping in there as well and deciding if power needs to be sent to a different set of wheels or the % need to be adjusted.

            Cruise locked in, my normal rolling mountainous commute, I don’t notice it.

    • 0 avatar
      NormSV650

      I measure the Envision at 8″ of clearance. Same 2.0T and same Twin Clutch AWD system with torque vectoring.

  • avatar
    Steve_S

    Buick needs to up thew quality a bit on the interior Mazda and VW have better seats and dash.

    Perhaps an Avenir model. I’d prefer a non-clad GS version.

    • 0 avatar
      slavuta

      I was sitting in the Buick yesterday and it felt like nothing

    • 0 avatar
      Peter Gazis

      Nope.

      VW has gone cheap to better compete with Nissan & Toyota

      Mazda’s Vehicles are small and weak on tech. The interiors have gotten better, but still only at a Chevy level.

      • 0 avatar
        slavuta

        @Peter Gazis

        what pipe are you smoking? Mazda interior Chevy? Mazda uses high quality materials for the interiors. Their switch gear is great as well. Chevy puts some rubber crap on steering wheel, and the switch gear that I only saw in Yugo. Their upholstery is coming apart in 3 years. I had Mazda for 17 years and the interior held together extremely well. No holes no threads coming out, no major discoloration.

  • avatar
    shedkept

    This car has been on my radar for a while. It is good looking.

  • avatar
    87 Morgan

    My hope is that is sells well, time will tell. As a Lacrosse owner, I find the Buick a nice place to spend ones time, extremely quiet and pleasant enough along with the V6. I have not driven the turbo 4, so I can’t speak to it. I generally like all natural vs turbo motors, so I a built in prejudice and would and will opt for the bigger motor even if it costs more.

    As for the new Buick, It will be a great car as from what I have seen GM is actually putting out a nice enough product. The hard part will be getting the Subaru drivers to even consider entering the BGMC store to have a look. I am not a Subie aficionado and generally think that if ones drives a Subie, which are pretty agrarian as compared to a Buick, will be impressed with the quiet that Buick has to offer. Subie’s are generally not over the top powerful, so again I am sure the drive train will be equal to or better than what the Subie owner is used to. All that said, how does Buick fight the image, vs Subie?
    I think I read it on this site, but it warrants repeating. Subaru is a magnificent marketing firm, with a side a hustle of designing mediocre to bland cars. GM is a magnificent engineering firm, with a failing side hustle in marketing. In the end, my money is GM completely F’s up the marketing for the new Buick and it sells poorly against great reviews.

    • 0 avatar
      Secret Hi5

      ^I was very impressed with the ride and comfort of a rental Lacrosse – Great for driving across Connecticut. The interior bits, however, were less than luxurious in look and feel, but perhaps that’s because it was rental-spec.

      Frankly, the Regal isn’t photogenic. I finally saw a few in the flesh (“metal?”) and they look better IRL. It’s a pity how GM packaged the Regal’s equipment/options.

    • 0 avatar
      NormSV650

      Not sure how this Ecotec 2.0T is tuned but the direct injection along with variable valve timing makes the turbo-4, turbine smooth. They’ve been softening throttle response for fuel economy since people think the gas pedal is an on/off switch.

  • avatar
    30-mile fetch

    A stylish and appealing but high-depreciation alternative to the ubiquitous Outback. Not fiscally responsible, but avoiding Subaru’s laggard powertrains is probably worth a few bucks a week.

    The $30K entry trim doesn’t give you a power driver seat and you’re looking at $36K if you want heated front seats on your AWD vehicle, though. That’s not super awesome. Nor is the curb weight–4200 pounds.

    • 0 avatar
      a5ehren

      Owning a car for a short enough time to where depreciation matters at all is not a fiscally responsible thing to do.

      • 0 avatar
        30-mile fetch

        Owning anything that isn’t the most stripped-down paid-off bare-bones solution to your basic transportation needs also fails your fiscal responsibility test, so what’s your point?

        Should I willingly buy something that loses value more rapidly and hope that I never need to get out from under it before it all goes asymptotic at Year 15?

  • avatar
    BoogerROTN

    I like it, but I just don’t get the styling touch of the little rectangular “bump” at the top of the wheel well cladding. If in the market, I’d be looking for a darker paint scheme to hide it (that red looks nice).

    • 0 avatar
      Verbal

      They need to get rid of the black plastic wheel arch altogether. It’s a hideous addition to an otherwise very attractive car. It needlessly apes Subaru.

      • 0 avatar
        Ermel

        It’s awfully convenient though. I once clipped a house corner with the rear wheel arch of my Golf 2 GTI 16V. No visible damage whatsoever. Well … to the car, that is.

        And if there had been? Couple tenners at the parts desk and half an hour with a drill and pop riveting tongs. BTDT (albeit when changing a fender while keeping the cladding after a slightly worse collision).

      • 0 avatar
        CincyDavid

        The cladding looks weird, and the chrome strip that dips down from the quarter panel glass to the top of the taillamp is just plain goofy.

        My friendly VW store is offering $6000 off Sportwagens and AllTracks…no earthly reason to even look at this orphan “Buick”.

        • 0 avatar
          Russycle

          Agree on that chrome strip. Doesn’t stand out on the white, but on the red vehicle…just no. Don’t mind the cladding, it’s practical, and makes the wheel wells look bigger than they are.

        • 0 avatar
          NormSV650

          All tracks and Sportwagen are under powered compared to this. Besides only sending 50% power to the rear wheels is not a true AWD but a cheap version that should not be marketed as such.

  • avatar
    Ermel

    Isn’t that an Opel Insignia? Looks quite serious as a semi-offroadishly cladded wagon. I like the look.

  • avatar
    thegamper

    I really like the look of the TourX. The sales forecast probably aren’t total pie in the sky. The car itself has never been a particularly high volume affair and was almost in a niche market before they changed the body style. That niche being near luxury midsized/small sedan. I have seen both the liftback and the wagon on the road and they are very sharp.

    Surprisingly, this seems to me to be the first real attempt by an American manufacturer to copy the Volvo Cross Country, Subaru Outback formula. Not a bad idea at all and hope it catches on.

    The problem for Buick and the TourX will be GM’s insistence on an upmarket price for a Brand that really doesn’t capture upmarket intenders in great numbers. Sure, some of the Buick Stable is fairly premium in content, material and even looks. But there just aren’t a lot of buyers willing to lay down gobs of cash for an optioned up Buick….yet. Who knows, the brand has a good story, they make some nice cars, but still parts bin type stuff for now. Probably even moreso after the sale of Opel.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    This will be an interesting experiment. If it works, maybe it’ll steal a few sales from the other brands mentioned. I bet Volvo is the prime target here – I’m sure GM would love to snare some of those high-earning V90 wagon buyers.

    If it doesn’t work, though, it’s not really much of a problem – this is built in Germany, so what’s the risk?

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    TourX GS V6 please – that would be attractive to me.

    And a 300 hp TourX would underscore the joke/embarrassment that Subaru’s H6 at 250 hp is.

  • avatar
    Fred

    The problem with “feedback” is that I as a TSX Sportwagon owner would probably like this car. The question is, would I buy it? Not unless they can show me it’s reliable.

  • avatar
    jkross22

    I was ready to love this car. I wanted to love it. I love wagons. I got a chance to hop in the driver’s seat at the LA Auto Show. Since there was no line and just one other person checking it out, it was easy to do.

    I was disappointed. The seats are weirdly narrow and made the interior seem more cramped than it probably was. I just couldn’t get comfortable. Weird as I fit in my 3 wagon’s seats just fine, and that’s a smaller car.

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    Side question (because I’m too lazy to look it up)

    Had Buick detailed out how the AWD system is going to work?

    FWD until the rears are needed?

    60/40 default split?

    What?

    • 0 avatar
      thegamper

      I haven’t seen anything very technical but seems like it will be FWD biased. The only detail I saw was that the rear diff was capable of torque vectoring.

    • 0 avatar
      rentonben

      There’s hope – the old Regals had a good AWD.

      Wasn’t the cheap slip-then-grip crap.

    • 0 avatar
      NormSV650

      Opps! Posted youtube videos above.

      https://youtu.be/YtoTCbHpNoM

      Looks lime 1/4 of a wheel turn before the one wheel with traction moves the car. At about 40 mph the the rears clutch grip to the rears lessens until it is just free wheeling at highway speeds.

      Our Envision 2.0T sees 32 mpg at 65 mph or 30 mpg loaded. With beer aero the TourX should see middle 30’s on long drives, besting all gasoline wagons.

  • avatar
    HahnZahn

    All in favor of more wagon options in the US. I just played around with the build on the Buick website. It’s only the top trim level and over $38k when driver assistance options enter the picture. Way too much. Subaru and VW are the only brands I’ve seriously shopped lately, and they make driver assistance available for way less – $24k in the Impreza I bought last year. Toyota puts some version of it in every new vehicle across their line.

    I know car enthusiast websites often condemn driver assistance, but I’d never buy a car without it ever again. At least not in a place with actual rush-hour traffic jams.

    • 0 avatar
      Fred

      I think Buick wants you to compare it to Volvo rather than the smaller Imprezza or VW. In that case it’s a pretty good deal. Unfortuantly that’s kind of a semi-luxury area that others like Acura occupy that the internet has a hard time appreciating.

      • 0 avatar
        HahnZahn

        Agreed this is a Volvo-fighter. I should have stated it better that I admire Subaru and VW making the meaty driver assistance options available on low- and mid-level trims on even their most basic cars. I hate that many brands (domestic most of all) don’t offer these options until you’re at the high end, and then make it a compound option that depends on also opting for a sunroof, for instance.

        I guess I might not be a typical car-buyer, though. Not to look down at others who have done so, but it seems with this auto loan bubble that’s waiting to burst, a hell of a lot of people opt to max out cars they want rather than get what they need. $38k makes me shudder, but plenty of people will take out the 72-month loans for it.

      • 0 avatar
        tallguy130

        Near-luxury is super odd. A top trim Honda or Chevy is near as makes no difference to a mid level Buick or Acura. Then you get into silly crap like the base Buick not having heated seats or keyless entry, etc. For 30k it better come with all the stuff that you would expect on a car costing 10k less. That has always turned me off whenever someone pushes “near-luxury”.

        • 0 avatar
          George B

          tallguy130, my hypothesis is that near-luxury and the Sloan “ladder of success” no longer work when near-luxury cars have to compete against leased luxury cars and CPO luxury cars.

    • 0 avatar
      87 Morgan

      HahnZahn, the issue with your thesis, is you are comparing the Regal to the Impreza. Clearly it is the size of the Outback. I just priced out an Outback at $36,150 for a limited with the adds for the driver assist package.

      Seems like they are pretty close to me.

      • 0 avatar
        HahnZahn

        But what I’m saying is that even in a cheap car like the Impreza, you can get the driver assistance package without having to max out every other aspect of the car. The same is true for Subaru’s higher-end vehicles like the Outback, which is in the same bracket as the Regal.

        For whatever reason, American manufacturers seem to hold back driver assistance for the top trim levels of all their vehicles, and then make them an especially pricey option when they do make them available.

        • 0 avatar
          NormSV650

          The problem with those systems on cheap cars is that they only inconsistently work like in the case of Toyota. This is the Corolla video not stopping and there is another with Highlander. Drivers don’t know that in the event of impact and audible noise they are to curl up in a ball on thr seat and not touch the pedals for it to work. Is that how Toyota drivers think?

          https://youtu.be/6mzRiWO-ktU

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    Very attractive looking, which means it will fail.

  • avatar
    gasser

    Buick needs to decide if its a luxury manufacturer or not. Power driver’s seat should be on EVERY car. They should also consider the safety packages like Honda and Toyota offer as standard equipment. IMHO, For every sale they miss on the strippo models, they would pick up sales on the intermediary trims.

    • 0 avatar
      30-mile fetch

      “Buick needs to decide if its a luxury manufacturer or not. Power driver’s seat should be on EVERY car.”

      I agree, but paying extra for features found on far cheaper models is a hallmark of semi-premium brands. The BMW 320i? No sir, it is only thrity five thousand dollars and does not include power seats, heated seats, moonroof, “lumbar support”, or smart key. Does Sir require the directions to the nearest KIA dealership?

      • 0 avatar
        Nick_515

        30-mile that is a shocking level of equipment for a 320. I have the last year 2011 328i, with what’s known as “the housewife motor” around these parts. It has heated leather seats and steering wheel, fully power including lumbar support for both, and a smart key (but not proximity). memory seats and mirrors too, tied to his and hers fob (my wife and I insist on only one car as long as can be helped). And moonroof of course. And I thought this is a base as a BMW can get. Wow.

        • 0 avatar
          30-mile fetch

          Funny, but I’d think the current easy-torque turbo four would be more fitting of the housewife moniker than a nice inline six.

          A 320 with the options you list looks to be a $42K car, but I went crazy and splurged on a super rare color (blue) and super nice dashboard trim (fake wood instead of the incredibly bad standard fake silver). I then exercised restraint and didn’t add floormats. Jeepers.

          But frankly, a base stripped-down 3 Series would appeal to me. I’d be happy with manual air con and manual seats (if they are appropriately adjustable) and no nav and the intentionally detuned engine–but not for $35K. I can get that in a GTI with more motor for $27K before negotiating. Those Bavarians!

    • 0 avatar
      George B

      The problem is customers, not Buick, decide if Buick is a luxury brand or not. Buick is mostly the car brand sold at GMC stores. On top of this, Buick has to carry the costs of UAW benefits and large numbers of retirees, forcing them to cut costs where they can.

    • 0 avatar
      NormSV650

      Buick is offering something the economy sedans like Accord and Camry cannot. Cargo hauling in Sportback and TourX, AWD, and longer 4 years, 50,000 mile warranty. They can decontent and get away with it.

  • avatar
    gasser

    Buick needs to decide if its a luxury manufacturer or not. Power driver’s seat should be on EVERY car. They should also consider the safety packages like Honda and Toyota offer as standard equipment. IMHO, For every sale they miss on the strippo models, they would pick up sales on the intermediary trims.

    • 0 avatar
      NormSV650

      Gm doesn’t offer them as they are not working and at a price point to include them on their cars.

      Besides thr insurance companies are not offering a discount for them, are they?

  • avatar
    readallover

    Here we are, nearly February, and Dealers STILL do not have any in stock.

    • 0 avatar

      You sure they don’t have any?

      Sportback (over 1,000 listed nationally)
      https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/722675521/overview/

      TourX (over 250 listed nationally)
      https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/724644960/overview/

      • 0 avatar
        PrincipalDan

        My local dealer has currently listed ONE 2017 Regal – no 2018s.

        Of course this is the same dealer that has roughly twice the inventory of GMCs that he has of Buicks. So take that for what you will.

      • 0 avatar
        dal20402

        “250 listed nationally”

        That’s a number for a car that’s basically unavailable. If the car were readily available the national number would be well into four figures.

        Most of those 250 listings are probably for cars that are still in transit.

        And if Buick really thought the balance would be 70/30 in favor of the Sportback, no wonder this is the case. I would have guessed 90/10 or more in favor of the TourX. In fact, I would only have brought the TourX over. Buyers don’t like low cars anymore, but they do like raised Outback clones.

    • 0 avatar
      N8iveVA

      I just went to the DC Auto show and they didn’t even have a Tour X, just the liftback sedan.

  • avatar
    alfaromeo

    I am interested in this car but want the 3.6 NA V6.

    I can see the 2.0T is for fuel economy but it financially doesn’t make sense to me at current fuel price.

    According to EPA fuel economy, TourX with 2.0T combined 24MPG requiring premium fuel, on the other hand the heavier and larger 2018 Enclave get 20MPG with its 3.6 NA V6 while using regular fuel. Simply math calculation shows that when premium costs 60 cents more than regular fuel, the fuel cost of the two will break even when regular fuel cost $3.00/gallon. But currently, the cost of premium fuel around my neighborhood is around 70-90 cents more than regular fuel, and regular fuel is at 2.70-2.80 range.

    So, although 2.0T burns less fuel but it costs more money than 3.6 NA. Furthermore, TourX is lighter than Enclave. So the break even point will be even higher. At this moment, a TourX with 3.6NA engine saves owners’ money than 2.0T does.

  • avatar
    Nick_515

    i am so sad to say that I don’t think I like it. i want to like it because GM is doing a good thing, and I want a wagon. But it looks too bulbous for me… almost has a minivan vibe to it. I am not expecting Audi sharpness here, but still. Ditto the interior. Despite that, I hope it does really well. And I hate that cladding so much, but I can deal with it if i had to.

    I was impressed by the statements of the veep. Not sales targets that would make everyone chuckle, but some realistic talk about ‘we’ll see how this goes.’ Right on.

  • avatar
    Land Ark

    I was very excited to see the new Regal in the flash when I went to the DC auto show. As I have mentioned, I took over a lease for a 2016 GS so I wanted to see what I might be able to roll over to.

    Honestly I was underwhelmed. My car seems small but isn’t. The new one seems large but isn’t. The interior materials of the new one seems like a large step down from mine. I was very underwhelmed.

    They didn’t have the wagon, but I am definitely going to check one out when it arrives. But, god, can’t we get a wagon here without the plastic cladding? I know, people want fake SUVs, but there must be a few of us who wants a sporty road-based wagon.

  • avatar

    I ordered a 2018 Regal Sportback last August for my daughter, but am declining the purchase as the color Rioja Red is not appealing and unlike the website picture. it looks more like a Mahogany, almost brownish at night and dark plum by day. I wonder who approved this non starter? instead I am buying an off lease 2016 Lacrosse in the pretty red. longer wheelbase and a V6.

  • avatar
    ajla

    I’m just hoping the GS version is quicker than the Camry V6 and Accord 2.T auto.

    • 0 avatar
      NormSV650

      Malibu 2.0T has a slight edge in 1/4 mile trap mph over the Accord 2.0T in MT testing. Though after Honda Type-R review in C&D, when they later compared ot to the Focus RS I the Type-R was noticabley slower.

      Even C&D admitted Honda slipped them a ringer. So I’d take these tests with a grain of salt. The Ecotec 2.0T is good for 360-380 lb-ft of torque with a ecu tune and 92 octane. Not sure what Honda 2.0T has up it sleeve for thr Accord.

  • avatar
    conundrum

    Not sure I’d trust PSA to keep making this Opel to GM standards, nor worry too much about spare part availability. This Insignia/Regal is an orphan for Peugeot and there’s little reason to think they’ll be on top of any problems. Nor keep it around for long. It’s just a captive import for GM, so you’re on your own if you buy one.

    Since the Regal and the Malibu are the same underneath, perhaps GM could turn them out itself if it needed to, you know, like in China.

    Barra couldn’t care less what happens either way. Expect to see hugely depreciated ratty Regals running around in three years time. GM never stays the course with niche products, the exception proving the rule is Corvette, while Opels of all kinds have never stuck around for long, Saab croaked, Suzuki was punted to the sidelines, and Isuzu got neutered. Nature of the beast.

    • 0 avatar
      NormSV650

      With the cash on thr hood incentives in the $10,000’s the first two years are depreciation free. Thr real depreciation are in thr over priced Honda and Toyota products that will cost similarly as GM down the road.

  • avatar
    ernest

    Let’s get a few things straight here. Buick sold 219,000 cars in the US last year. Subaru sold 647,000 cars, but they would have sold more if they had the production capacity. As it was, they ran three shifts balls-to-the-walls all year, and still managed the lowest days in inventory in the industry. Whatever pixi dust they have in Indiana, they need to sprinkle some of it on Buick. Correction- a lot of it.

    Now we all know Subaru isn’t a full line manufacturer. They accomplished this with functionally two product lines and 4 motors. Yeah, I haven’t forgotten the FRC… but the volumes barely enough to count. Taken in this context, Subaru’s thumping Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and just about any other comer I can think of in the compact crossover market. And the Ascent hasn’t even hit the market yet. The only guys they aren’t keeping awake at night are over at Toyota, since they own a big chunk of that action.

    That leaves the aforementioned Volvo and VW. Both are more niche marketers in this country. Subaru outsold VW 2:1 in total (not just crossovers), and Volvo by 8:1. Not a fair comparison to Volvo- anyone here priced a XC90? Nice rig, but more an Escalade alternative than an Outback competitor. And the XC60 barely has room for a decent sized Labrador in the cargo hold.

    Buicks got their work cut out for them. I like the looks of the car, but no 6 cyl would be a deal breaker for me personally.

    • 0 avatar
      NormSV650

      Subaru doesn’t have a Buick, a GMC, or a Cadillac. They all share parts somewhere in their product line so you might want to include them in your calculations. Good luck on that one as it will take sometime to compute.

      Subaru is pushing middle $30’s and, like Mazda without a premium brand to up market, are pretty much stuck with adding more lipstick on the cuv pig. They really only have two sedans which near-luxury like Buick, Acura, Infiniti…are moving g towards.

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        “Subaru is pushing middle $30’s and, like Mazda without a premium brand to up market, are pretty much stuck with adding more lipstick on the cuv pig.”

        What *exactly* do you think the Buick Encore is?

        “They really only have two sedans which near-luxury like Buick, Acura, Infiniti…are moving g towards.”

        Nobody is moving towards sedans. NOBODY.

        • 0 avatar
          NormSV650

          Subaru could have a home run if they had a subcompact as the old grannies and greenies would love just enough room for their Birkenstocks and low enough to mount a kayak on the roof.

          Reference is towards CUVs with just a few sedans remaining.

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    sportyaccordy

    Norm has been putting overtime in. Norm, your claim about “being ahead of the depreciation curve” is false- when a car is being sold new with 5 figures off the MSRP that dings resale value all the way down the line. And historically GM has been garbage at supporting one off models like this… crash a GTO or G8 and see how long it takes to get those body panels in.

    • 0 avatar

      You can economics if you want to, Norm is not for economics.

    • 0 avatar
      NormSV650

      Sporty, most resdiuals for 3/36 are 55-60% as set by the banks. So Buick chose to cover half of that or 30% as in their sales. So Buick residuals are more like 80-85%!

      If KBB is correct Corey’s 2012 Outback might have dropped a couple of hundred dollars since fall if he were to private sale it or about -10%. My 2016 Envision Premium was purchased 12 months ago for $35K and private sale is $33K or about -10%. That is worth more than I owe on it with only a $500.00 deposit.

      I like that curve!

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    ernest

    I guess everyone missed the comment about the Ascent. Subaru showed off their new 3 seat CUV at the Auto Show. It looks like an Outback, but a tape measure shows it’s a lot closer to an Explorer in size (and price). My contention is Subaru isn’t chasing the Birkenstock crowd so much as the same demographic Volvo targeted so successfully in the 70’s and 80’s. And looking at the numbers, they’re catching them too.

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