United Auto Workers, Fiat Chrysler Negotiating To Avert Strike

I know a highly skilled machinist that works at Sterling (they build the 200 and I think the Dart). He tells me that a lot of Tier I union members are essentially drooling retards that have to be constantly baby-sat, and that a huge % of the prefab parts they receive there are imported from China and have to essentially be reworked because they are out of spec, and that it truly would be less expensive to make them ONCE in the U.S.

@DeadWeight I meant to say the Tier II, not Tier I, employees.

@DeadWeight 200, well I do hope Chrysler made money on those given what a resale disaster that model happens to be. Here's the MY14 V6 Limited which I think approached 30K: 09/10/15 NORTHSTR Lease $15,100 6,309 Above WHITE 6G A Yes 09/25/15 PA Lease $15,200 8,135 Above TAN 6G P Yes 09/24/15 ARENA IL $12,400 8,566 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes 09/11/15 PA Regular $15,600 8,594 Above WHITE 6G P Yes 09/17/15 CHICAGO Lease $15,600 9,372 Above BLACK 6G A Yes 09/17/15 PHILLY $12,800 12,839 Avg SILVER 6ET P Yes 09/09/15 NY Lease $14,000 12,926 Avg BRIGHT W 6G A Yes 09/17/15 ATLANTA Regular $13,500 13,357 Avg RED 6G A Yes 09/22/15 DENVER Lease $9,700 15,933 Below BLACK 6G A No 09/08/15 ORLANDO Regular $14,000 17,647 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes 10/01/15 DETROIT Lease $12,700 20,135 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes and the MY14 I4 LX: 09/24/15 PALM BCH Regular $10,200 7,025 Above SILVER 4G A Yes 09/24/15 PALM BCH Regular $10,500 18,838 Above SILVER 4G Yes 09/30/15 SAN ANTO Regular $11,000 20,313 Above GOLD 4G A Yes 09/17/15 FRDKBURG Regular $11,100 25,053 Above BLACK 4G A Yes 09/29/15 CHICAGO Regular $10,500 27,687 Above Silver 4CY A Yes 09/22/15 OHIO Lease $9,200 28,056 Avg SILVER 4G A Yes 09/17/15 PA Regular $9,200 31,148 Avg Black 4G A Yes

@28-Cars-Later That's the Mitsubishi-based 200, not the new FCA-developed UF 200. I doubt many of those broke $20,000 out the door.

@chaparral Oh shat you are correct, my bad. here is the MY15: MY15 Chrysler 200 FWD V6 Limited 08/04/15 DETROIT $15,600 20,738 Above WHITE 6G A No 07/14/15 GEORGIA Regular $14,000 21,162 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes 07/14/15 NEWENGLD $15,200 22,202 Above BLACK 6G A Yes 08/06/15 PHILLY $14,400 26,569 Above WHITE 6G P Yes 08/04/15 DETROIT $15,200 27,192 Above RED 6G A Yes 08/04/15 DETROIT $14,700 28,415 Above SILVER 6G A Yes 09/01/15 RIVRSIDE $12,500 28,602 Below GRANITE 6G A No FWD I4 LX 09/14/15 ORLANDO $13,000 11 Below MAROON 4G O No 10/01/15 SO CAL Lease $14,000 1,509 Below WHITE 4G A Yes 07/22/15 PITTSBGH Regular $14,800 5,076 Above BLACK 4G A Yes 10/01/15 SO CAL Lease $14,500 8,671 Avg WHITE 4G A Yes 08/13/15 TX HOBBY Lease $14,500 15,757 Avg GRAY 4G A Yes 10/01/15 TX HOBBY Regular $10,500 20,158 Below BLACK 4G A No Its actually similar to the Mitsu based model.

@chaparral The change to the new 200 isn't going to help residuals any. If the Fusion, which is an established legit player in the midsized game, can't hold it's value, the 200 won't be able to either. It's still a Chrysler 200.

Me? I'm with you. I love capitalism (with excesses and market failures mitigated as best as can be in a balanced fashion), yet despise CronyComradeKapitalism that we now are saddled with in the USSA, where banks, Wall Street financial engineering firms, and other fiat money changing entities are not only propped up with ZIRP fiat, but coddled to excess, and granted license to rape and pillage, at the expense of actually productive, working class men and women. If Americans were awake and engaged, they'd have already stormed Wall Street and burned the bankers, paying special attention to extracting justice upon central banking planners at the Federal Reserve and Treasury Department, in a truly revolutionary manner. As long as CronyComradeKapitalism keeps granting a license to the Banking-Financial-Wall Street complex to suck the blood of Main Street, we'll continue to see a decline in the size and real wages of what once was a truly large middle class in America, as we ebb closer and closer to rich & poor, with little in between.

"As for the 10 hr. vs. 8 hour shift and switching start times..lets see you geeks go along with that!!" Working days for me can vary from 8 hours to 16 hours, gone for days to weeks etc. The UAW guys should probably get over it if it means some form of job security. Irregular work hours are fairly common among real, actually working people. "How do you arrange for childcare when your schedule will change at the Companys wish??" Inconvenient, maybe. Impossible? Certainly not.

"How do you arrange for childcare when your schedule will change at the Companys wish??" Don't have kids or let yourself feel responsible for someone who does. We must protect ourselves from the consequences of other people's careless f*cking, locally and globally. I and millions of others survived and thrived despite starting out in industrial circumstances that would make today's UAW worker seem like royalty (perhaps a bit mindless but so was most royalty). That's because we kept that one simple rule foremost in mind. Life is hideously unfair but it does offer some dependable axioms.