Porsche Announces Mission E Tesla Fighter at Frankfurt, Drops Mic

Aaron Cole
by Aaron Cole

Porsche announced its all-electric four-door concept sedan at the Frankfurt Auto Show, complete with 15-minute charging (to 80 percent) and 310-mile overall range. There’s also some holographic and emoticon blather, but we’ll get to that later.

According to Porsche, the Mission E will use two electric motors with a combined output of 600 horsepower to power the car up to 60 mph in 3.5 seconds. The car’s 800-volt charger would be a first for electric cars, and would help the car charge up to 80 percent in 15 minutes. According to Tesla, the Model S takes about 30 minutes to charge up to 80 percent for similar range.

Porsche didn’t say when (or even if) the car would make it into production, but it’s likely that something very much like it will be heading our way soon. Maybe this will be a new Panamera?

The concept car is full of concept-car goodies, according to Porsche. Four captains chairs? Check. A holo-deck information screen? Check. Emoticons and comically large (and two different sized) wheels? Check and check.

Porsche said its car would be capable of a sub-8 minute run at the Nurburgring Nordschleife and that its batteries could handle multiple, full-power runs. Wonderful.

Although much of the car is conceptual, it’s clear that Porsche is firing a shot across up Tesla’s nose with their battery tech. The Mission E’s 15-minute charge time is depending on the power source, of course, using a high-voltage draw that is roughly double what Tesla’s Supercharger network provides.

The quoted time to 80 percent — and not a full charge — is not uncommon for EVs. According to Chelsea Sexton, an EV expert who appeared in “Who Killed The Electric Car?” and who writes about EVs, Porsche’s claims for battery tech aren’t wholly out of left field — although the infrastructure to make it all work may not yet exist.

Batteries usually charge at their normal rate from 0 percent to 80 percent, she said, but automakers usually turn down the voltage, and consequently the rate of charge, between 80 percent to 100 percent to keep batteries from degrading. Increased heat due to high-voltage charging, especially when batteries are almost already fully charged, has been commonly thought to degrade Li-Ion batteries, although automakers say they’ve seen little degradation so far.

“At the moment, there are three DC fast charging connectors: Tesla, CHAdeMO (the Japanese/Korean manufacturers, generally speaking), and the SAE Combo (or “CCS”) connector, which the Americans and Germans all use. (It’s) worth noting that Ulrich Hackenberg of VW Group chairs the SAE committee, so no real chance that Porsche is going to deviate from that connector,” Sexton said. There’s no real chance that Porsche could partner with Tesla anytime soon, she added.

Porsche’s 800-volt charger may take a charge in 15 minutes, Sexton said, but the infrastructure needed to deliver that kind of power doesn’t yet exist. Current DC chargers operate between 50 and 100 kW, nowhere near potent enough to charge Porsche’s car in 15 minutes.

Porsche said its car could be charged at home, or on available public chargers, but didn’t say how long it would take to fully charge.




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  • VenomV12 VenomV12 on Sep 15, 2015

    This car looks incredible.

  • Probert Probert on Sep 16, 2015

    If you could only drive computer mock-ups - wowsers!! And when it's done are they going to sign up for the super charging/sharing network, or are you going to search for a 110 outlet in the potted palms? Show me a car - otherwise it's a joke.

  • Arthur Dailey 'The capitalists will sell use the very rope that we use to hang them.' In our household we have cut down our shopping/spending and pay more to purchase products from 1st world nations or 2nd world nations that are our 'allies'. That also means quite often only buying and eating fruit and vegetables that are in season. Just like our parents and grandparents did.At least TTAC published an article on May 21st regarding LAN transformers that contravene the Uyghur Forced Labour Prevention Act being used in some BMW, Jaguar, Land Rover, and VW products?
  • ToolGuy I wouldn't buy any old Chinese brand of vehicle, but the right EV at the right price, maybe possibly yes. If you told me this would alarm Ford and torque off FreedMike, all the better. 😉P.S. I would *definitely* consider an EV made in Taiwan. Take that, paramount leader!P.P.S. China batteries/components to convert one of my ICE vehicles to EV? Yes.
  • Wolfwagen I expect Renault to be less popular than Fiat
  • ToolGuy Helium-3, baby!
  • Roman Our 1999 Pontiac Sunfire Gt is still running without any issues. 25 years and counting.
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