By on September 9, 2014

Tesla Toyota RAV4 EV

Though Toyota and Tesla have, to paraphrase Fleetwood Mac, gone their own way while their RAV4 EV project draws to a close, Tesla CEO Elon Musk says he sees his company working with Toyota in two to three years’ time.

Automotive News says Musk made the proclamation during a ceremony for the first Model S sedans delivered in Japan Monday, stating the project “would probably be something significant, maybe on a much higher volume level.” He added that Tesla loved working with Toyota, and held great respect for the automaker.

When the gesture was brought up with Toyota, however, representative Dion Corbett said the automaker had “nothing to say.” This is likely in part due to recent comments between the two companies over their respective paths toward a greener future; Toyota sees EVs as impractical, Tesla believes FCVs are for fools.

The RAV4 EV joint venture is expected to end once the last of the 2,500 crossovers are sold by the end of the year; Toyota has sold 2,130 RAV4 EVs through August 2014.

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24 Comments on “Tesla, Toyota May Develop New Project Within Three Years...”


  • avatar
    Drzhivago138

    I just love how Mr. Musk can show up jeans, sport coat, and no tie while everyone else has to abide by the corporate rule of dark-suit-buttoned-down-no-fun-allowed.

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      Everyone else looks respectable, and he looks like a wank that just crawled out of bed.

    • 0 avatar
      SCE to AUX

      As much as I admire Mr Musk, he seems very uncomfortable every time he’s on stage.

      • 0 avatar
        Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

        Strangely, that makes me think he’s a bit more trustworthy. Hate to learn that that’s an affectation :p

      • 0 avatar
        Drzhivago138

        No matter how naturally it might come to Mr. Musk or any other exec, how you present yourself at a function is always at least a little bit of an affectation. It’s a fine line to walk between maintaining professionalism (at the expense of approachability) and openness (at the expense of being taken serious by fellow execs).

        FWIW, were I an auto exec or in some other high-corporate position, I’d wear three-piece suits in slightly-offbeat-but-not-garish colors like gray, brown, really dark green, or even tweed. Just to show that I’m respectful of typical corporate culture but refusing to follow it. You’d always be able to pick me out in a crowded Senate hearing–because I’d be the only one not in the typical Washington uniform of navy-suit-white-shirt-red-tie.

        • 0 avatar
          bball40dtw

          I really like the lighter blue suits Bill Ford tends to wear. I think he wears them more for Detroit Lions functions than FoMoCo ones. He wore one last night for Monday Night Football, where his father was honored.

          • 0 avatar
            Drzhivago138

            Eh, light blue is a nice break from navy/black/charcoal, but it reminds me too much of some sleazy 70’s game show host. Or something that wouldn’t have been out of place on the set of Anchorman.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            Usually I don’t like light blue suits, but Bill Ford has enough cash to make it work. The fabric and fit are excellent.

  • avatar
    petezeiss

    heh..

    Don-to car-ru us-su, wi car-ru yu.

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    So you’re saying Musk, to paraphrase Fleetwood Mac, should keep his visions to himself?

  • avatar
    petezeiss

    Love the expressions of the two background guys; Oddjob and Eyeroller.

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    As long as Toyota is putting their eggs in the hydrogen basket, Tesla won’t get very far with them.

    The RAV4 volume was microscopic compared to Tesla’s own car sales; I just don’t think it’s worth the trouble of dealing with Toyota’s reluctant engineers.

  • avatar
    WaftableTorque

    I would like to see a mass manufacturer take the idea of engineering a flat under tray battery from the get go for their hybrid or PHEV. That way there’s none of this non-sense of a compromised trunk.

    Speaking of non-sense, I’ve been reading on the enthusiast sites that the next Lexus LS will follow the upcoming Q80 and abandon competing against the S and 7 and go after the Panamera, CLS, and Gran Coupe.

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      Which means it’ll be getting a hatchback, and become more expensive as well as more ungainly.

    • 0 avatar
      SCE to AUX

      The problem with that engineering approach is that most hybrids today have been retrofitted from pure ICE cars, which means the flat undertray battery area would be wasted space in the big seller if it was designed in from the beginning.

      A notable exception is the Prius, which has always been hybrid-only.

  • avatar

    and?

  • avatar
    Numbers_Matching

    Hey – isn’t that Christopher Walken leaning up against a white Toyota?

  • avatar
    Tosh

    Means the Model 3 will be a Toyota.

  • avatar
    stuki

    “…Tesla CEO Elon Musk says he sees his company working with Toyota in two to three years’ time.”

    Sez the man who sees himself go for a leisurely stroll on Mars in a roughly similar timeframe…….

    Even amongst the other ridiculous distortions brought about by free money, financialization and pedal to the medal reverse Robin Hooding; the utter obsession with every silly utterance by whomever happen to be blessed with an unlimited credit line with Yellen, has got to be one of the more laughable.

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