Giugiaro and Frazer-Nash Want You to Wankel

Martin Schwoerer
by Martin Schwoerer

When I read in Auto, Motor und Sport about a concept car that looks great, claims 110 mpg (city) and a top speed of 210 mph, I was intrigued. But skeptical too, of course. Since the boffins at the UK’s Frazer-Nash Research (and not just some garage geniuses) are behind the “Namir” Rotary-engine hybrid dream car, I thought it would be worth a call. So, I spoke with company Director, Gordon Dickson. Why Wankel? “A rotary engine is extremely compact and is also extremely energy-efficient at its RPM sweet spot. The Namir is a serial hybrid, meaning there is no mechanical connection between the combustion engine and the four electric motors, so it’s easy to keep the 814cc Wankel engine within its sweet spot. We have already employed this technology in our Metrail system.”

Actually, I read that Fabrizio Giugiaro, the bloke you had design the Namir, is just glad it isn’t equipped with some prosaic Fiat engine. “Well, the Wankel is much more efficient, lighter and smaller than a four-stroke would be. Its compact form also enables a low center of gravity and a smooth underbody. That’s how Fabrizio was able to get 210 mph in the wind tunnel”. Are you another one of these companies that are hopping on to the hybrid wagon? “Actually, we have been working on electric propulsion for the past 20 years. And we are developers and not just system integrators. So we do all the software etc. in-house, something that takes considerable commitment.”

Here’s some technical stuff, for the brightest of the B&B: 397 hp, 4WD, 0-60 in 3.5s, Lithium-Polymer batteries weighing 150 kg, curb weight 1500 kg. Expected date on market: never. This is a show-off piece that intends to demonstrate what can be done. I like it.

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  • SCE to AUX SCE to AUX on Mar 13, 2009

    @psarhjinian: You are correct on every count. Both the Tesla and the Volt are unobtainable due to price. The market is exceptionally small for $100k sports cars, and $40k economy cars. The Volt could become the Cimarron of economy cars, if it is ever actually built.

  • T2 T2 on Mar 13, 2009
    That’s how Fabrizio was able to get 210mph in the wind tunnel”. Sounds like it's snake oil time. Somebody should explain to that shillmeister just how a wind tunnel works. Next up - So we do all the software etc. in-house, something that take considerable committment Excuse me but a 5k-ohm pot on the accel pedal coonected to the inverter, an ESTOP pushbutton for safety and you're almost good to go. A signal from the inverter indicating consumed power can be sent over to the wankel engine speed controller as an rpm reference. I'd say the "commitment" would be were you doing this on your own dime fella, and not at govt (read taxpayers) expense. Finally Mr psarhjinian your statement ..... concept of a series hybrid because it’s not necessarily that efficient: you’ve permanently abstracted the engine from the wheels and added a layer of energy wastage. Pardon me, I wouldn't be so quick to denigrate series hybrids inferring that the electrical interface involves a layer of enegy wastage. At cruise speeds the typical manual transmission handling those lower power loadings isn't so great either. T2
  • David Murilee Martin, These Toyota Vans were absolute garbage. As the labor even basic service cost 400% as much as servicing a VW Vanagon or American minivan. A skilled Toyota tech would take about 2.5 hours just to change the air cleaner. Also they also broke often, as they overheated and warped the engine and boiled the automatic transmission...
  • Marcr My wife and I mostly work from home (or use public transit), the kid is grown, and we no longer do road trips of more than 150 miles or so. Our one car mostly gets used for local errands and the occasional airport pickup. The first non-Tesla, non-Mini, non-Fiat, non-Kia/Hyundai, non-GM (I do have my biases) small fun-to-drive hatchback EV with 200+ mile range, instrument display behind the wheel where it belongs and actual knobs for oft-used functions for under $35K will get our money. What we really want is a proper 21st century equivalent of the original Honda Civic. The Volvo EX30 is close and may end up being the compromise choice.
  • Mebgardner I test drove a 2023 2.5 Rav4 last year. I passed on it because it was a very noisy interior, and handled poorly on uneven pavement (filled potholes), which Tucson has many. Very little acoustic padding mean you talk loudly above 55 mph. The forums were also talking about how the roof leaks from not properly sealed roof rack holes, and door windows leaking into the lower door interior. I did not stick around to find out if all that was true. No talk about engine troubles though, this is new info to me.
  • Dave Holzman '08 Civic (stick) that I bought used 1/31/12 with 35k on the clock. Now at 159k.It runs as nicely as it did when I bought it. I love the feel of the car. The most expensive replacement was the AC compressor, I think, but something to do with the AC that went at 80k and cost $1300 to replace. It's had more stuff replaced than I expected, but not enough to make me want to ditch a car that I truly enjoy driving.
  • ToolGuy Let's review: I am a poor unsuccessful loser. Any car company which introduced an EV which I could afford would earn my contempt. Of course I would buy it, but I wouldn't respect them. 😉
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