2022 New York Auto Show: Jeep Goes Long With the Wagoneer UPDATED

Tim Healey
by Tim Healey

Let’s say you run a car company that just launched a large SUV last year. Let’s say you feel, for whatever reason, that it needs more length.

What do you do? Well, you extend it, of course.

The 2023 Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer L add 12 inches to go to 226.7 inches in overall length and 7 inches in wheelbase to go to 130. This is said to extend cargo space to 44.2 cubic feet behind the third row with the seats up on the Grand Wagoneer — a 15.8 cubic feet increase over the standard wheelbase vehicle, according to Jeep.

Seating capacity remains 7 or 8, and Jeep claims towing of up to 10,000 pounds.

A Wagoneer Carbide trim bows, adding gloss-black wheels, Black Onyx grille rings, gloss-black grille texture, gloss-black appliques for the mirrors and headlamps, and unique trim for the instrument panel, plus what Jeep calls “Global Black” seats. This trim also gets special front and rear fascias.

The longer Wagoneers get either the new twin-turbo, 3.0-liter Hurricane inline-six that makes 420 horsepower and 468 lb-ft of torque (regular Wagoneer) or Hurricane 510 (Grand). The 510 has the same displacement and cylinder count, and twin turbos as well, but it makes 510 horsepower and 500 lb-ft of torque. Jeep claims a 1 to 2 mpg bonus over the current V8s.

As is typical for Jeep, three 4×4 systems are offered — Quadra-Trac I and II and Quadra-Drive III.

Third-row passengers get a special storage compartment that doesn’t exist on standard-wheelbase models.

It’s hard for this author to imagine who needs an even longer Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer, but clearly, some folks need the extra passenger and cargo room.

Those folks will be paying dearly — we don’t have pricing on the L models, but the standard-wheelbase models aren’t cheap.

If you’re in NYC, you’ll be able to see the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer L at the Javits Center during the New York Auto Show.

Updated with pics from the show floor, as seen below. Sorry for some blurriness, chalk it up to poor lighting flummoxing my camera:

[Images: Jeep, © 2022 Tim Healey/TTAC]

Tim Healey
Tim Healey

Tim Healey grew up around the auto-parts business and has always had a love for cars — his parents joke his first word was “‘Vette”. Despite this, he wanted to pursue a career in sports writing but he ended up falling semi-accidentally into the automotive-journalism industry, first at Consumer Guide Automotive and later at Web2Carz.com. He also worked as an industry analyst at Mintel Group and freelanced for About.com, CarFax, Vehix.com, High Gear Media, Torque News, FutureCar.com, Cars.com, among others, and of course Vertical Scope sites such as AutoGuide.com, Off-Road.com, and HybridCars.com. He’s an urbanite and as such, doesn’t need a daily driver, but if he had one, it would be compact, sporty, and have a manual transmission.

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  • BEPLA BEPLA on Apr 14, 2022

    The shiny stealth package doesn't make it any more attractive - It just blocks the sun more effectively.

  • BobinPgh BobinPgh on Apr 14, 2022

    Maybe this could be the next Imperial. Change some styling to be less bulky, have fancy interior and it could compete against Cadillac Escalade. Imperial could once again be an independent brand under Stellantis.

  • Jalop1991 In a manner similar to PHEV being the correct answer, I declare RPVs to be the correct answer here.We're doing it with certain aircraft; why not with cars on the ground, using hardware and tools like Telsa's "FSD" or GM's "SuperCruise" as the base?Take the local Uber driver out of the car, and put him in a professional centralized environment from where he drives me around. The system and the individual car can have awareness as well as gates, but he's responsible for the driving.Put the tech into my car, and let me buy it as needed. I need someone else to drive me home; hit the button and voila, I've hired a driver for the moment. I don't want to drive 11 hours to my vacation spot; hire the remote pilot for that. When I get there, I have my car and he's still at his normal location, piloting cars for other people.The system would allow for driver rest period, like what's required for truckers, so I might end up with multiple people driving me to the coast. I don't care. And they don't have to be physically with me, therefore they can be way cheaper.Charge taxi-type per-mile rates. For long drives, offer per-trip rates. Offer subscriptions, including miles/hours. Whatever.(And for grins, dress the remote pilots all as Johnnie.)Start this out with big rigs. Take the trucker away from the long haul driving, and let him be there for emergencies and the short haul parts of the trip.And in a manner similar to PHEVs being discredited, I fully expect to be razzed for this brilliant idea (not unlike how Alan Kay wasn't recognized until many many years later for his Dynabook vision).
  • B-BodyBuick84 Not afraid of AV's as I highly doubt they will ever be %100 viable for our roads. Stop-and-go downtown city or rush hour highway traffic? I can see that, but otherwise there's simply too many variables. Bad weather conditions, faded road lines or markings, reflective surfaces with glare, etc. There's also the issue of cultural norms. About a decade ago there was actually an online test called 'The Morality Machine' one could do online where you were in control of an AV and choose what action to take when a crash was inevitable. I think something like 2.5 million people across the world participated? For example, do you hit and most likely kill the elderly couple strolling across the crosswalk or crash the vehicle into a cement barrier and almost certainly cause the death of the vehicle occupants? What if it's a parent and child? In N. America 98% of people choose to hit the elderly couple and save themselves while in Asia, the exact opposite happened where 98% choose to hit the parent and child. Why? Cultural differences. Asia puts a lot of emphasis on respecting their elderly while N. America has a culture of 'save/ protect the children'. Are these AV's going to respect that culture? Is a VW Jetta or Buick Envision AV going to have different programming depending on whether it's sold in Canada or Taiwan? how's that going to effect legislation and legal battles when a crash inevitibly does happen? These are the true barriers to mass AV adoption, and in the 10 years since that test came out, there has been zero answers or progress on this matter. So no, I'm not afraid of AV's simply because with the exception of a few specific situations, most avenues are going to prove to be a dead-end for automakers.
  • Mike Bradley Autonomous cars were developed in Silicon Valley. For new products there, the standard business plan is to put a barely-functioning product on the market right away and wait for the early-adopter customers to find the flaws. That's exactly what's happened. Detroit's plan is pretty much the opposite, but Detroit isn't developing this product. That's why dealers, for instance, haven't been trained in the cars.
  • Dartman https://apnews.com/article/artificial-intelligence-fighter-jets-air-force-6a1100c96a73ca9b7f41cbd6a2753fdaAutonomous/Ai is here now. The question is implementation and acceptance.
  • FreedMike If Dodge were smart - and I don't think they are - they'd spend their money refreshing and reworking the Durango (which I think is entering model year 3,221), versus going down the same "stuff 'em full of motor and give 'em cool new paint options" path. That's the approach they used with the Charger and Challenger, and both those models are dead. The Durango is still a strong product in a strong market; why not keep it fresher?
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