Toyota Tundra Rumor Mill Swells With Hybrid Talk

Steph Willems
by Steph Willems

While Toyota remains tight-lipped about its next-generation Tundra pickup, the online commentariat is abuzz with rumors these past several months. The automaker holds no aspirations of unseating the Ford F-150 as king of the full-size truck segment, but numerous reports suggest Toyota at least wants to offer something on par with its modern domestic rivals. Perhaps even class-leading.

The rumors include the possibility of the Tundra sharing its new platform with its midsize Tacoma stablemate, the adoption of an air suspension system (or perhaps even an independent rear setup), and now this: a hybrid turbo drivetrain.

Having debuted in 2006 for the 2007 model year, the current-gen Tundra allowed ample time for speculation to build up. From TFL Truck comes the latest, with a company insider claiming high-end versions of the upcoming Tundra will adopt a hybrid drivetrain employing a turbocharged 3.5-liter V6.

That’s the engine found in Lexus’ new-for-2018 LS sedan, which generates 416 horsepower and 442 lb-ft of torque without the assistance of electricity. The source claims the truck’s hybrid setup is similar to the wildly complex Multi Stage Hybrid System found in the LS 500h, with output projected to be in the area of 450 hp and 500 lb-ft. Toyota is reportedly aiming for a fuel economy figure of 30 mpg or higher. That’s a highway figure, surely.

If true, Toyota wouldn’t have the fledgling hybrid truck market all to itself. Ford’s F-150 hybrid should debut well before the next-gen Tundra arrives in 2021 or 2022. Apparently, the cab and bed of the new Tundra have yet to be finalized, so don’t expect to see a surprise early introduction.

While the Tundra boasts exceptional buyer loyalty, sales are falling off as the industry contracts. Volume is down 5.1 percent through the end of April. It’s the opposite situation for the Tacoma, which can’t seem to stop finding new buyers.

Adding a high-MPG, high-tech Tundra variant would help Toyota generate buzz for an often overlooked model that currently doesn’t even offer a V6. As Toyota left its full-sizer to wither on the vine, focusing instead on admittedly lucrative new crossovers (as well as sedans), rivals began offering turbo sixes, light-duty diesels, and even a turbo four. Compared to its Ford, GM, and Ram competitors, the Tundra is beyond ancient, boasting a porky curb weight, an outdated interior, and fuel economy that fails to reach 20 mpg in any configuration.

The changes made to the next-gen model will need to be extensive and meaningful.

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  • Conundrum Conundrum on May 29, 2019

    Time to add D4S injection (which equivalent dual port and direct injection Ford already has on its F150 engines) to that Toyota 5.7l DOHC. New cylinder heads required as well. The 5.0l Coyote V8 is more advanced than this lumbering old giant. Adding the Lexus LS hybrid setup isn't a bad idea. With the low sales of those things, some investment needs to be recouped by churning out a few more 3.5 V6 twin turbos.

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    • ToddAtlasF1 ToddAtlasF1 on May 30, 2019

      @Fordson Don't tell credit criminal Ram buyers that they can't afford to change their 32 spark plugs.

  • Scoutdude Scoutdude on May 30, 2019

    I'm sure that 30mpg number is the city number as that is where most hybrid designs shine.

    • Gtem Gtem on May 30, 2019

      I just gave back a Fusion Hybrid SE rental, averaged an indicated 43mpg with a highway drive to Chicago and back, mostly at 75-78mph and A/C use. Not too shabby at all considering its 3700lb heft. The thing is, I've gotten 40+ mpg out of a Passat 1.8TSI and Optima (2.4 NA) doing similar drives. I agree, city is where hybrids really shine. On the open road, regular 4 cylinder sedans are getting some incredible numbers.

  • El scotto No rag-top, no rag-top(s) = not a prestigious car brand. Think it through. All of the high-end Germans and Lexus have rag-tops. Corvette is really its own brand.World-leading engines. AMG, M, S and well Lexus is third-world tough. GM makes one of the best V-8s in the world in Bowling Green. But nooooo, noooo, we're GM only Corvettes get Corvette engines. Balderdash! I say. Put Corvette engines in the top-tier Cadillacs. I know GM could make a world-class 3.5 liter V-6 but they don't or won't. In the interior everything that gets touched, including your butt, has to feel good. No exceptions.Some think that those who pay above MSRP and brag about it are idiots. Go the opposite direction, and offer an extended 10-year 100,000-mile factory warranty. At a reasonable price. That's Acura's current business model.
  • Carrera 2014 Toyota Corolla with 192,000 miles bought new. Oil changes every 5,000 miles, 1 coolant flush, and a bunch of air filters and in cabin air filters, and wipers. On my 4th set of tires.Original brake pads ( manual transmission), original spark plugs. Nothing else...it's a Toyota. Did most of oil changes either free at Toyota or myself. Also 3 batteries.2022 Acura TLX A-Spec AWD 13,000 miles now but bought new.Two oil changes...2006 Hyundai Elantra gifted from a colleague with 318,000 when I got it, and 335,000 now. It needed some TLC. A set of cheap Chinese tires ($275), AC compressor, evaporator, expansion valve package ( $290) , two TYC headlights $120, one battery ( $95), two oil changes, air filters, Denso alternator ( $185), coolant, and labor for AC job ( $200).
  • Mike-NB2 This is a mostly uninformed vote, but I'll go with the Mazda 3 too.I haven't driven a new Civic, so I can't say anything about it, but two weeks ago I had a 2023 Corolla as a rental. While I can understand why so many people buy these, I was surprised at how bad the CVT is. Many rentals I've driven have a CVT and while I know it has one and can tell, they aren't usually too bad. I'd never own a car with a CVT, but I can live with one as a rental. But the Corolla's CVT was terrible. It was like it screamed "CVT!" the whole time. On the highway with cruise control on, I could feel it adjusting to track the set speed. Passing on the highway (two-lane) was risky. The engine isn't under-powered, but the CVT makes it seem that way.A minor complaint is about the steering. It's waaaay over-assisted. At low speeds, it's like a 70s LTD with one-finger effort. Maybe that's deliberate though, given the Corolla's demographic.
  • Mike-NB2 2019 Ranger - 30,000 miles / 50,000 km. Nothing but oil changes. Original tires are being replaced a week from Wednesday. (Not all that mileage is on the original A/S tires. I put dedicated winter rims/tires on it every winter.)2024 - Golf R - 1700 miles / 2800 km. Not really broken in yet. Nothing but gas in the tank.
  • SaulTigh I've got a 2014 F150 with 87K on the clock and have spent exactly $4,180.77 in maintenance and repairs in that time. That's pretty hard to beat.Hard to say on my 2019 Mercedes, because I prepaid for three years of service (B,A,B) and am getting the last of those at the end of the month. Did just drop $1,700 on new Michelins for it at Tire Rack. Tires for the F150 late last year were under $700, so I'd say the Benz is roughly 2 to 3 times as pricy for anything over the Ford.I have the F150 serviced at a large independent shop, the Benz at the dealership.
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