Piston Slap: Parked in the Polar Vortex?

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta
V writes:Here are two questions from a regular, and grateful, Piston Slap reader:
  1. How long is best to idle a gasoline engine after starting & before driving off: [A] a few minutes? one minute? [C] until the revs settle down? no need, just drive right off? Assume ambient temperature well above freezing; a shifting style on the sedate side; and a car made in the past 15 years so engine has EFI and EGR and all that. Current ride’s engine is naturally-aspirated and direct-injected, but I sure would appreciate knowing the proper protocol for other combinations too, if different. Several sources over the past years have all agreed on for modern engines, but then just a few months back a Car & Driver column said [A], so now I’m unsure again.
  2. Leaving a car (stick shift *of course*) parked: best in gear, best in neutral, or doesn’t matter? Assume the parking space is either not sloped at all, or is sloped and I know enough to turn a front wheel into the curb toward the down slope.
Sajeev Answers:Thank you for contributing and reading! To your first question: not much changed since our last discussion. But were the words “ Polar Vortex” as commonplace in our lexicon back then? Probably, but work with me here! Let’s include engine warm up in the polar vortex: peep this Oil Viscosity Chart to ensure your oil didn’t turn into molasses overnight. If so, let the motor warm up for many, many minutes to let the oil thin out (provided you aren’t using an engine block heater!). More to the point, while restoring my 1989 Lincoln Continental (the aforementioned Pilot Fish), I thumbed through the shop manual’s chapter on Ford’s Insta-clear windshield: while not a popular success, it personifies the engineering effort working to reduce stress in awful weather for both car and driver.Because there’s more to the story than the engine: your glass is iced up, you need to clear snow from the roof/perimeter, your wiper blades/tires are petrified, etc. Long story short: Option D is still the best for the (not carbureted!) engine, but if you’re in the depth of a polar vortex, consider warming up time for the rest of the vehicle. And perhaps your sanity, too. Second question?Park in first gear, add the parking brake and turn aforementioned the wheels if it’s really hilly. Since Houston is flat and totally geographically boring, I just park in 1st. On seriously steep ramps (i.e. flood protection down here), engaging the parking brake before going into 1st isn’t a bad idea. That makes the drivetrain a secondary brake, which isn’t a big concern with a clutch (easily released before starting) but it’s a great idea on an automatic transmission’s inflexible on-off lock mechanism. Have you ever heard a terrible noise when dropping an automatic out of park on a steep hill?
Back to manuals, do only park it in first gear: numerically higher gears require more wheel rotations to move the rest of the drivetrain. What’s great for jackrabbit starts is also great for holding the vehicle on not-perfectly flat ground…Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry…but be realistic, and use your make/model specific forums instead of TTAC for more timely advice.[Image: © Timothy Cain/TTAC]
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  • LD LD on Feb 10, 2019

    I wish more cars had an oil temperature gauge. My Chrysler 300 has a digital oil temperature gauge, besides a digital engine coolant and digital transmission temperature gauge. Here in Canada in winters that is a very useful indicator as to whether the engine has reached it's normal operating temperature. I normally wait for engine rpms to drop below 1000 on a cold start up before driving off slowly. Keep the rpms and engine load low. And even if my trip is short, I try and get the engine oil to get up to it's normal operating temperature which is at least 75 Celsius to 80 Celsius.

    • Scoutdude Scoutdude on Feb 10, 2019

      Yeah EOT is a nice thing to know. Unfortunately not many cars give you access to that information even if they have a sensor for it. Many cars with variable valve timing have an oil temp sensor and with the right scan tool you can read its value. It can take a fair amount of driving after the coolant is up to temp to get the oil up to temp.

  • George B George B on Feb 11, 2019

    I start the car, wait a few seconds before putting the engine into gear, and then let it warm up by driving slowly/low RPM with very little load on the engine while driving on the residential streets in my neighborhood. No fuel wasted sitting idling as the engine warms up and 10 mph reduces trip time as compared to 0 mph. By the time I get to the main side streets, the coolant temperature is warm enough to heat the car and I drive with moderate acceleration.

  • Redapple2 Let me think here. Big 3 sell 10,000,000 cars in the US in the last x years. Volvo, Toyota, Honda, MB sell 1.000.000. Big 3 have ZERO cars on the hi mile list.Hum: What does that mean? I know what it means.
  • THX1136 That's so cool. This one is close to what I had accumulated with the 84 Shelby Charger I owned. Since it only had a 5 digit odo no one would know it had over 406k. I kept track of everyplace it turned over with only 2 still lodged in my 71 yo brain. If I had taken care of it cosmetically as well as I did mechanically I still think I could have gotten to 500k which was a goal I set for myself. The Toyota mentioned is quite impressive at over 900k. Thanks for the write up, Murilee!
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