Piston Slap: Foiled by a Dome Light?

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Peter writes:

I drive a 2010 Toyota Prius. From top to bottom, I’m thoroughly impressed by the technology in this car. And yet this engineering marvel is so easily disabled by its inferior owner leaving a dome light on overnight and draining the 12V battery.

Is there any technical reason cars allow the 12V battery to be drained down beyond the point where the car will start? Who needs that extra 6 hours of dome lighting?

Sajeev answers:

And here I thought every modern vehicle implemented a battery saver relay/switch/doohickey, eliminating human error! The Best and Brightest better find us a reason not to isolate such “human-error only” items, as hybrids aren’t exempt in my book.

Since when did a map/dome/cargo light play such an influential role in an electrical system’s design?

Let the people have an always-on USB port/cigarette lighter for an emergency phone charge (they stop charging at 100%) or for a hit of that sweet, sweet nicotine monster. Everything else open to human errors should shut off after 10-30 minutes of inactivity from a human or proximity key.

I’d recommend one of these:

Easy: change the offending (reading/dome/cargo) interior lights to LED bulbs. Not all are created equal in terms of light quality, but that’s a bigger concern for exterior lighting. LED’s lower power consumption could be the difference between a start or a no-start on that tiny 12V battery.

Hard: Install a battery saver relay intended for another application, a battery saver system, or a trigger module: all require extensive knowledge of the Prius’ chassis wiring to make sure the 12V system won’t go berserk over such a change.

[Image: By Mariordo Mario Roberto Duran Ortiz (Own work) [ CC BY-SA 3.0], via Wikimedia Commons]

Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry … but be realistic, and use your make/model specific forums instead of TTAC for more timely advice.

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  • Manu06 Manu06 on Dec 06, 2016

    Instead of an on/off switch, why not a mechanical timer you twist ? Maybe15 minutes max ?

    • DenverMike DenverMike on Dec 06, 2016

      We want a switch that's easily slapped on, hit it with a knuckle if hands are full, kick the door closed, and that's it. No need to reinvent the wheel here.

  • LTDwedge LTDwedge on Dec 08, 2016

    Call me aware ! Any ORANGE colored high voltage wiring - read "LETHAL" needs to be left alone. Just having safety gloves and a wiring diagram may not prevent DEATH. Just don't want to read about someones unplanned demise. Insufficient knowledge will kill.

  • Redapple2 I gave up on Honda. My 09 Accord Vs my 03. The 09s- V 6 had a slight shudder when deactivating cylinders. And the 09 did not have the 03 's electro luminescent gages. And the 09 had the most uncomfortable seats. My brother bought his 3rd and last Honda CRV. Brutal seats after 25 minutes. NOW, We are forever Toyota, Lexus, Subaru people now despite HAVING ACCESS TO gm EMPLOYEE DISCOUNT. Despite having access to the gm employee discount. Man, that is a massive statement. Wow that s bad - Under no circumstances will I have that govna crap.
  • Redapple2 Front tag obscured. Rear tag - clear and sharp. Huh?
  • Redapple2 I can state what NOT to buy. HK. High theft. Insurance. Unrefined NVH. Rapidly degrading interiors. HK? No way !
  • Luke42 Serious answer:Now that I DD an EV, buying an EV to replace my wife’s Honda Civic is in the queue. My wife likes her Honda, she likes Apple CarPlay, and she can’t stand Elon Musk - so Tesla starts the competition with two demerit-points and Honda starts the competition with one merit-point.The Honda Prologue looked like a great candidate until Honda announced that the partnership with GM was a one-off thing and that their future EVs would be designed in-house.Now I’m more inclined toward the Blazer EV, the vehicle on which the Prologue is based. The Blazer EV and the Ultium platform won’t be orphaned by GM any time soon. But then I have to convince my wife she would like it better than her Honda Civic, and that’s a heavy lift because she doesn’t have any reason to be dissatisfied with her current car (I take care of all of the ICE-hassles for her).Since my wife’s Honda Civic is holding up well, since she likes the car, and since I take care of most of the drawbacks of drawbacks of ICE ownership for her, there’s no urgency to replace this vehicle.Honestly, if a paid-off Honda Civic is my wife’s automotive hill to die on, that’s a pretty good place to be - even though I personally have to continue dealing the hassles and expenses of ICE ownership on her behalf.My plan is simply to wait-and-see what Honda does next. Maybe they’ll introduce the perfect EV for her one day, and I’ll just go buy it.
  • 2ACL I have a soft spot for high-performance, shark-nosed Lancers (I considered the less-potent Ralliart during the period in which I eventually selected my first TL SH-AWD), but it can be challenging to find a specimen that doesn't exhibit signs of abuse, and while most of the components are sufficiently universal in their function to service without manufacturer support, the SST isn't one of them. The shops that specialize in it are familiar with the failure as described by the seller and thus might be able to fix this one at a substantial savings to replacement. There's only a handful of them in the nation, however. A salvaged unit is another option, but the usual risks are magnified by similar logistical challenges to trying to save the original.I hope this is a case of the seller overvaluing the Evo market rather than still owing or having put the mods on credit. Because the best offer won't be anywhere near the current listing.
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