Piston Slap: Hat Trick!

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Jesse writes:

Hello, Sajeev.

My 2013 Outback 2.5i is fine and I don’t have any questions about it. Instead I wonder:

1. Why do car reviews measure acceleration in time but deceleration in distance?

2. Why do high performance electric cars need conventional brakes? I think there was a Mini concept a few years back that had 4 in-wheel electric motors that did all of the accel/decel.

3. Why don’t cars with CVTs have a ‘downshift’ button? Is it too hard on the transmission? Should I stop using the paddles to do so?

Thanks!

Sajeev answers:

Perhaps simple queries deserve simple answers. So let’s do this thang…

1. Relevance: people want to know how many seconds it takes to get to a certain speed, but not how many seconds it takes to stop. A certain stopping distance is far safer for them. Even if reaction times vary and press cars come delivered with varying levels of brake degradation (from previous journos cooking the pads and glazing the rotors), apparently stopping distance and acceleration times still means something to readers.

2. After driving Code Brown, I can guarantee you that traditional brakes are still important in the world of regenerative braking. Nothing stops like a disc brake, both in terms of speed retardation on the highway to the ability to modulate from a high rate (for safety on the highway) to a low rate (for comfort at a red light). Even when you put Code Brown’s regen brakes to full power, they can’t stop in a panic situation. I suspect the G-forces created via panic stop would spike hard enough to damage some component of the propulsion system. No surprise, Wikipedia has a great article on its limitations.

3. Why? Because CVTs don’t need one. You downshift (so to speak) via throttle inputs. You want maximum acceleration? Just go right ahead and bury the throttle in the carpet. Otherwise let the CVT work its fuel economizing magic. Downshifting (and upshifting) algorithms in CVT gearboxes exist to acclimate drivers to CVTs: a stepping stone (get it?) to the future. I mentioned the parallels to motorized seatbelts, I still believe this is true.

Off to you, Best and Brightest!

[Image: Shutterstock user Sensvector]

Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry…but be realistic, and use your make/model specific forums instead of TTAC for more timely advice.

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  • RHD RHD on May 06, 2015

    Curiously, that Lincoln had the stove-pipe hat Photoshopped on to its nose. Old Abe never wore his hat that way! For proper effect, it should have been near the front edge of the roof.

  • DrGastro997 DrGastro997 on May 06, 2015

    I thought the "B" was for engine braking with cars with CVT. That's what I had in a Corolla rental- it worked fine but did give you a bit of artificial feel of downshifting of gears but was simply engine braking.

  • ToolGuy I don't think it is fair that the other car companies have to compete with VW.
  • Wjtinfwb Seemed pointless to cannibalize your own products sales by offering a clearly inferior and older product toting the same name at a lower price point. Now many "Classic" buyers would have bought a current Generation RAM had that been all that was offered? It kind of made sense when GM did it for fleet only sales of outdated models like Malibu or Impala or even Ford while new model build grew to capacity. But they've sold these two side by side for at least 3 years now, which just seems counterproductive and costly.
  • Tassos Remember, the safest most affordable trip is the one you do not take. Also remember, if I am driving there is a good reason for it -- I do not need you clogging up the roads out of habit lol. Learn how to drive, people. This includes knowing when to stay home. 🤡
  • Spamvw Nice to know I've broken into the top 10.478000 yesterday, but it's digital odo so there will no pics when it goes to it's final resting place.As I've said before, since the computer brain reads in KM's it will stop at roughly 620k.I've been told that there are VW folks who can reset it. But I'm guessing rust will take the unibody by then.Sam'02 TDI Jetta Wagon (grey) (manual)
  • Jkross22 Sounds like a jobs program instead of increasing safety.
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