Junkyard Find: 1991 Alfa Romeo 164 S

Murilee Martin
by Murilee Martin

I see plenty of Fiat 124 Spiders and Fiat X1/9s in junkyards (and even a couple of Maseratis), but Alfa Romeos are worth a bit more and thus are harder to find. We’ve seen this ’79 Alfa Romeo Sport Sedan and this ’74 Spider in this series, and that’s about it prior to today’s find.

The 164 was the last car that Alfa Romeo sold in the US before its retreat in 1995, and the big front-wheel-drive Alfa sedan had a tough time competing with increasingly ruthless German and Italian manufacturers at that time.

Not only is the interior in this one pretty nice, the car is the rare 5-speed model.

172,886 miles— not bad!

I couldn’t get the hood open to shoot the engine, but I assume the original 3.0 liter V6 was still there.

Ooh, 1990s Italian electronics!






Murilee Martin
Murilee Martin

Murilee Martin is the pen name of Phil Greden, a writer who has lived in Minnesota, California, Georgia and (now) Colorado. He has toiled at copywriting, technical writing, junkmail writing, fiction writing and now automotive writing. He has owned many terrible vehicles and some good ones. He spends a great deal of time in self-service junkyards. These days, he writes for publications including Autoweek, Autoblog, Hagerty, The Truth About Cars and Capital One.

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  • Mrb00st Mrb00st on Nov 03, 2013

    It's a great car, it really is. If only it had a more useful 5-door hatchback shape instead of a trunk. Maybe some nifty 3-spoke dish alloys with sticky rubber. Drop that heavy V6 for a nice little twin-cam 2.3L turbocharged four-cylinder with great passing power and impressive longevity. Get some heated leather Recaros, and a dashboard that's intellible *and* tilted at the driver. Oh, then it'd be a 9000 Aero. I love the 164. But I still believe the 9k Aero was the best car ever built. No helping the hopeless, right?

    • Marcelo de Vasconcellos Marcelo de Vasconcellos on Nov 03, 2013

      No, there's no helping you! :)! Specially as these were one of the last Alfas that used Alfa's traditional wheel designs. No spokes! Everybody has copied the Germans on that. How I long for the day when cars really had wheel designs that would show from whence they came. It's been at least 20 yrs the reign of the spoke has lasted. Time for a change?

  • Emanistan Emanistan on Jul 30, 2016

    Some friends of my father's proudly drove one of these home from the showroom back in the early nineties. Within the second week it was in the shop, where it would spend much of it's time during the period when they were still determined to drive the thing. Within the second month the first rains of the year made their way through the flimsy weatherstripping and filled the car with mildew that would have put my mom's old '67 VW fastback to shame. From then on it became an MGB type garage ornament until they found someone to tow the thing away after owning it less than a year.

  • Redapple2 I gave up on Honda. My 09 Accord Vs my 03. The 09s- V 6 had a slight shudder when deactivating cylinders. And the 09 did not have the 03 's electro luminescent gages. And the 09 had the most uncomfortable seats. My brother bought his 3rd and last Honda CRV. Brutal seats after 25 minutes. NOW, We are forever Toyota, Lexus, Subaru people now despite HAVING ACCESS TO gm EMPLOYEE DISCOUNT. Despite having access to the gm employee discount. Man, that is a massive statement. Wow that s bad - Under no circumstances will I have that govna crap.
  • Redapple2 Front tag obscured. Rear tag - clear and sharp. Huh?
  • Redapple2 I can state what NOT to buy. HK. High theft. Insurance. Unrefined NVH. Rapidly degrading interiors. HK? No way !
  • Luke42 Serious answer:Now that I DD an EV, buying an EV to replace my wife’s Honda Civic is in the queue. My wife likes her Honda, she likes Apple CarPlay, and she can’t stand Elon Musk - so Tesla starts the competition with two demerit-points and Honda starts the competition with one merit-point.The Honda Prologue looked like a great candidate until Honda announced that the partnership with GM was a one-off thing and that their future EVs would be designed in-house.Now I’m more inclined toward the Blazer EV, the vehicle on which the Prologue is based. The Blazer EV and the Ultium platform won’t be orphaned by GM any time soon. But then I have to convince my wife she would like it better than her Honda Civic, and that’s a heavy lift because she doesn’t have any reason to be dissatisfied with her current car (I take care of all of the ICE-hassles for her).Since my wife’s Honda Civic is holding up well, since she likes the car, and since I take care of most of the drawbacks of drawbacks of ICE ownership for her, there’s no urgency to replace this vehicle.Honestly, if a paid-off Honda Civic is my wife’s automotive hill to die on, that’s a pretty good place to be - even though I personally have to continue dealing the hassles and expenses of ICE ownership on her behalf.My plan is simply to wait-and-see what Honda does next. Maybe they’ll introduce the perfect EV for her one day, and I’ll just go buy it.
  • 2ACL I have a soft spot for high-performance, shark-nosed Lancers (I considered the less-potent Ralliart during the period in which I eventually selected my first TL SH-AWD), but it's can be challenging to find a specimen that doesn't exhibit signs of abuse, and while most of the components are sufficiently universal in their function to service without manufacturer support, the SST isn't one of them. The shops that specialize in it are familiar with the failure as described by the seller and thus might be able to fix this one at a substantial savings to replacement. There's only a handful of them in the nation, however. A salvaged unit is another option, but the usual risks are magnified by similar logistical challenges to trying to save the original.I hope this is a case of the seller overvaluing the Evo market rather than still owing or having put the mods on credit. Because the best offer won't be anywhere near the current listing.
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