By on May 31, 2013

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Doug writes:

Ah, the 3000GT: possibly the car that’s most commonly believed not to be front-wheel drive, even though it is.  That’s an accolade it shares with the 1997-2003 Audi A8, by the way.  And while both cars offered all-wheel drive versions, you’d never know the 3000GT did by looking at Atlanta Craigslist.

Indeed, nearly every 3000GT on Atlanta Craigslist is either a base model (161 horsepower – honestly) or an SL.  The SL had 222 horses, but it was still no trackday monster since it weighed about as much as Skylab.  (Not to mention the aforementioned front-wheel drive issue.)

All the 3000GTs on Atlanta Craigslist are also in tough shape – and by “tough shape” I either mean “needs work” or “automatic.”  This 1994 model is both, offering both the four-speed auto and a wide variety of inexplicable graphics down the side.  It’s only $1,000, but the ad says it “does not run.”  Mileage is unlisted.

That one’s the low end of the spectrum.  The high end is this ’97 model with the five-speed stick and only 87,500 miles, priced at $8,500.  The catch: it’s still the SL, it still heavy and front-wheel drive, and – most importantly – it isn’t red.  And red, ladies and gentlemen, is crucial to the 3000GT ownership experience.

It’s the same story in the world of Dodge Stealth, the 3000GT’s heavily aged mechanical twin.  Don’t be fooled if an ad says it’s the “R/T” model: that designation doesn’t mean all-wheel drive or twin turbos.  To get that, you have to upgrade to the R/T Turbo, of which there’s only one on Atlanta craigslist: this car.

I’m not much for modifying, but this thing looks pretty good.  Only 60,000 miles, brand new clutch, well maintained, and clearly owned by an enthusiast, and only $8,500.  But wait!  What’s that I see in the background?  Are those… palm trees?  Ah, yes: the car is wearing Puerto Rico plates.  So it’s $8,500 plus shipping, and the owner’s manual will be in Spanish.

The 3000GT/Stealth crop isn’t very desirable, sadly – and that’s true even if you go on pay sites like AutoTrader.com.  The nice cars that are out there command big asking prices.  And if there’s such a thing as a 3000GT/Stealth enthusiast, they probably get them.  Assuming, of course, they have all-wheel drive and two turbos.

Derek writes:

Skyline. Supra. The Z-Car. RX-7. NSX. These are the Japanese sports cars that will forever live on in the hearts and minds of enthusiasts, no matter how many times they’re killed off and resurrected. The Mitsubishi 3000GT and Dodge Stealth never made it that far.

I have a vivid memory of the mid-1990s magazine ads showing the 3000GT VR- Spyder with its folding hardtop in motion. I had never seen  anything like that before, and I wouldn’t until Mercedes-Benz debuted the SLK. Turns out nobody really wanted to pay $57,449 for a Mitsubishi, no matter how much the roof looked like a ’59 Galaxie.

Mitsubishi didn’t sell cars in Canada until the late 1990’s, but there seems to be a decent supply of 3000GTs in the Toronto area. There are no Spyders for sale locally, but there are VR-4 models with all-wheel drive, twin-turbo powertrains and 4000 lb curb weights. This 1992 model has less than 100,000 miles for just $6,800 and it’s an honest-to-goodness VR-4.

If an American car is too common, how about a real Japanese domestic market car, with right-hand drive, some careful engine modifications and a horrendous bodykit? These cars were sold as the “Mitsubishi GTO” in Japan, and obviously, a name change was required for North American sales.

Still hankering after a droptop? Well there is one alternative. It’s a Dodge Stealth, and there’s no folding hard top. I know you’re probably thinking “there was no Dodge Stealth convertible, who the hell is this know-nothing kid and what did they do with Niedermeyer?” but someone apparently went to the trouble of having a coach-built convertible conversion done to a Stealth. The lone flaw I can see is that it’s an automatic. The yellow-painted valve covers and the cornball chrome wheels are, in my opinion, the perfect amount of 1990’s kitsch that can let you get away with driving this car ironically. Or, look at it this way: it’s the same price as a base Elantra and only marginally faster.

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65 Comments on “Derek And Doug’s Fantastic Crap Wagons: Mitsubishi 3000GT/Dodge Stealth...”


  • avatar

    These were really cool when they were new, but they were so pricey that they fell into the big-league Japanese supercar category and the competition in that segment was head and shoulders above what there cars had to offer. Why anyone would buy one of these when they could snag a Turbo Supra or a Turbo 300ZX for similar money? I will never know…

    For mere mortals like myself, the DSM Eclipse/Talon et al were a much better deal if you just had to go Mitsubishi. Despite many of these cars getting totally thrashed, I think they still aged better than the 3000s.

    That’s an awesome tribal graphic on the $1000 beater, by the way. Sorth of reminds me of the flabby biceps of many 40+ year old men I know. The 90s were so extreme – 20 years on, we’re all less so…

    • 0 avatar
      CoastieLenn

      A Supra or 300ZX really didn’t do much better than these cars did stock for stock. All performance figures were about the same, but the 3/S cars offered the assurance of AWD. The magic of those RWD cars came when modified. After all, the early 90’s is when the “drift craze” really started so when the high-po RWD turbo Japanese cars came around, the AWD platforms (in that high of a category) suffered largely.

      The DSM’s were truely in a league of thier own. The only real potential challenger they had was the unloved yet equally deserving Celica All-Trac.

  • avatar
    CoastieLenn

    I am a 3/S “enthusiast”. I recently parted ways with my beloved 1992 Stealth RT/TT with 64,000 miles… and yes, it was red AND a 5 speed.

    I put enthusiast in quotes because there’s really no such thing as a true die-hard enthusiast. Those that actually can say “I love these cars so much!!11!!!” clearly never owned one. They’re great cars when properly equipped with four driveshafts and two snails. Quick, smoothe, reletively quiet, and handled better than its oil tanker weight would suggest, thanks to the electronically controlled suspension. The drawback comes to light when something breaks or needs regular replacement… like the alternator… or the rear spark plugs. Even replacing the LF CV axle took me all afternoon and a full 6 pack of beer. Yep… that cramped. Good quality replacement parts are coming harder and harder to easily find without special orders. Most of us that wanted to keep ours in prestine condition didn’t trust most of the Autozone/Advanced/O’Reilly’s replacement parts.

    With the TT engine, I used to challenge my friends to see if they could find more than two places in the engine bay where they could see straight to the ground.

    • 0 avatar
      AFX

      “With the TT engine, I used to challenge my friends to see if they could find more than two places in the engine bay where they could see straight to the ground.”

      Does the negative side battery cable count ?.

  • avatar
    JMII

    I almost bought one of these (in red) back in ’96… instead I grabbed it’s smaller cousin: the Eclipse GS-T (yes the turbo one, but in “no ticket for me” green). The thing that always struck me about the 3000GT was how huge it was. I’m talking aircraft carrier size. I remember sitting in one and feeling like I was 5 years old because every thing around me was so over-sized. Plus I really couldn’t afford the thing. I also looked at a 300ZX at the time and couldn’t afford that either. So the FWD turbo Eclipse was the best I could do until just last year when I bought my 350Z.

    • 0 avatar
      Jason_in_SD

      It was huge until you tried to get into the back seat. My friend in college had one and there were three of us who went to the city to see a concert. Three hours of hell for each of us who weren’t the driver.

  • avatar
    Jason Lombard

    I sit here typing this at my kitchen table, where I have an unobstructed view of my neighbor’s not one, but two 3000GT’s. One is under a cover parked on the street and hasn’t moved in probably 6 months (I think he’s waiting for it to appreciate). The other is a daily driver, complete with a burned and peeling clear coat and a horrific set of chromed tri-spoke wheels. Yeah. Never been a fan.

  • avatar
    niky

    Quick, name a turbocharged, all-wheel drive, six-cylinder convertible sportscar!

  • avatar
    mattfarah

    You ever meet someone that is so strange, the odds are they shouldn’t exist at all? Hear me out:

    The year was 2010. I got a great gig on the SPEED TV show “Bullrun” for season 3. I was the “Black Magic Shine Pro,” literally a walking advertisement for Black Magic and every time someone would win a challenge, I would do a little on-camera bit where I’d pretend to detail their car using Black Magic products. It was the best gig in the world, as I worked for about 30 seconds every other day and spent the entire rest of the time blazing fine medicinal cannabis.

    One of the contestants on the show, a girl named Emile, was part of “Team Lexus,” two girls competing in one of their boyfriends’ rare (and awesome) 2JZ swapped 5-speed SC300. Sick car. Emile, no joke, was a Dodge Stealth enthusiast. A real, honest to god, die hard, enthusiast of the Stealth. I haven’t spoken to her in years, but at the time, she owned SEVEN stealths, three of them turbo’s. Pretty sure she had a boyfriend or something that specialized in modifying them. By now, he’s almost certainly out of business, because every Stealth has either been crashed or smells like burrito farts.

    Is there a point to this story? No, absolutely not. But I can say I once met a Dodge Stealth enthusiast, which is more than 99 percent of the world can say. At this point, you’re asking yourself a very obvious question: “Was she hot?”

    No, not really, but I’d hit it in a Stealth.

    • 0 avatar
      kjb911

      whatever happened to that show wasn’t bad and especially loved the time that team evo crashed after being dbags most of the time

      • 0 avatar
        mattfarah

        I don’t know, I really do wished they had kept it on. It was a fun show, and working on it was a great experience. I drank more those 3 weeks of filming than I drank the entire 4 years I was in college. If you ever get an opportunity to work with a British film crew, prepare your liver, then sign right up.

        The Evo team that crashed actually still has an ongoing lawsuit against the producers, who they are blaming for “placing the 10-ton block of concrete” within the game zone, even though it was like 300 feet off the course and you had to fuck up BAD to hit it. Failures of human beings, those people, taking no responsibility for the fact that they crashed their own car.

    • 0 avatar
      juicy sushi

      Matt, that story explains ever so much. The work you’ve been doing with Tuned has been great, I like how you’ve tried to find genuinely interesting cars, rather than magazine specials.

      • 0 avatar
        mattfarah

        we’re trying. I have some really great homebrew builds in the “auto spank bank” as well, unfortunately our travel budget precludes us from filming every one of them. Hopefully, Drive will go on, we will get better budgets, and really film the world’s best modified cars, not just the best cars we can afford to travel to.

    • 0 avatar
      AFX

      ” I worked for about 30 seconds every other day and spent the entire rest of the time blazing fine medicinal cannabis.”

      Reminds me of a Lawrence Welk song.

    • 0 avatar

      This is hilarious. If she does still exist, she probably controls 80 percent of the world’s Stealth supply. I also like the fact that she was specifically a Stealth enthusiast, and not the 3000GT. People have such weird car tastes.

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      Dude, you are my new hero.

    • 0 avatar
      Compaq Deskpro

      There’s a guy up my street who has a Stealth R/T, metallic silver with black stripes, that I regularly see him waxing.

      When I make my fortune and start a car collection of off beat cars, I’ll be sure to add one of these.

    • 0 avatar
      headlurker

      Emilie isn’t hot?

      That’s news to a lot of people…

  • avatar
    slavuta

    I see one in red every day. But I really thought that these come only AWD

  • avatar
    juicy sushi

    I am laughing myself silly at the requests for trades from that guy in Russel with the JDM Mitsubishi Derek. I don’t know why, but I see a fair amount of people around here who went out and imported late 1990s JDM cars. And then seem to have poorly modified all of them. There’s some schmuck with a poorly-bodykitted out Skyline GTS and another with an R32 GT-R he decided to paint a matte robin’s egg blue. Yeah…

    • 0 avatar

      If I was going to import a car from Japan, it would be a Porsche, E36 M3, Caterham, Alfa, Escort Cossie…basically anything that has the low kms and mechanical rigor of a Japanese owner that also happens to be LHD.

      My friend has a JDM Celica GT-Four ST205, it is gorgeous and well maintained but I just couldn’t cope with RHD.

      • 0 avatar
        juicy sushi

        The Japanese love their Alfa’s. I will have to stop by the local dealership in my wife’s hometown when I’m there this summer. I wonder what free stuff I can get out of them?

        • 0 avatar

          JS, how would you feel about an article on European niche marques in Japan. I’ve heard that the Japanese also love Caterham and Lotus (Japan being a very big market for those two) as well as Porsche, Ferrari etc. Alfa’s current lineup looks dismal but I know I’ve seen tons of great vintage Alfas in Japan being enjoyed both on and off track.

          • 0 avatar
            juicy sushi

            I don’t have the expertise to really do one, but yes, it’s definitely correct. I used to live in Kitakyushu (the Japanese equivalent of Hamilton) and wandering around one day I found 2 Elises and an Ariel Atom sitting in a very dilapedated garage. I saw a fair number of 156s in Japan, as well as a few Peugeots. Kitakyushu was pretty weird though. This town had one of the last operative Hyundai dealerships in Japan, and an early Lexus dealer. I think for all the yakuza…

          • 0 avatar

            Take pictures, write a couple hundred words. I’ll run it. Your comments are always articulate and nicely written.

      • 0 avatar

        Importing from Japan is a huge PITA. The paperwork is difficult enough, but once back in the USA daily life is more difficult than you could ever imagine. But enough about my wife…

  • avatar
    gossard267

    Had to LOL at this story! I owned one of these for four years and drove it every day. Put about 50K miles on it. It was a red 1993 VR-4 (the TT AWD Mitsu version) – no mods, 100% stock parts and look. I LOVED that car. The VR-4 still looks fantastic compared to most cars…almost exotic with the low, wide stance and coke-bottle curves. The Dodge version somehow looks ugly, though.

    This car was widely misunderstood. For some reason, people seemed to think it was supposed to be some sort of “pure” sports car, which it wasn’t. The name told you what it was: a GT. Smooth, stable, comfortable for traveling long distances at speed and in comfort (the optional sound system was really nice for a factory unit and the front seats had a lot of room). For whatever reason, people seemed to think it should handle like a Corvette or a FD RX-7, but I never understood that comparison. That’s certainly not what I wanted when I bought it.

    As another owner mentioned, the worst thing by far was repairing it. Hugely expensive and/or time consuming, and the parts were quite difficult to find. The engine compartment was wall-to-wall with hoses and belts…

    My version was totalled when someone ran a red light and destroyed the rear end of the car. I still miss it, even though I drive an objectively “better” car now (e46 M3).

  • avatar
    Power6

    I remember these well. A good friend of mine had one, he was obsessed with getting one of these as soon as he got out of college, maybe since his dad had the Supra and the 300ZX and he wanted a car that blew up slightly less often than an RX7, it made sense.

    Before the Evo and STI this was the geeks dream car…all wheel drive, all wheel steer, active-aero (motorized spoiler and air-dam), electronic shocks, active exhaust (motorized quiet/loud exhaust), 6 piston brakes, 6 speed, twin turbo…it had every possible japanese performance gimmick going wrapped into one car!

    Now my bud did put the headers and big turbos on this thing, and it was quite fast, being parallel turbo setup the boost hit was very brutal. It ran something like a 12.2 on snow tires (more tire spin=less bog) I gave it a try myself, and not wanting to break anything I just about stalled on launch…still ran a 12.9.

    If not for the DSMs and the legendary 4G63 the 3S cars would have been more memorable probably.

  • avatar
    AFX

    I remember looking at buying one of these things used years ago. Every ad I saw was either some clapped out piece of white trash crap, or some low mileage high dollar garage queen. What struck me was not only how big these cars were, but how little room there was in the back under the hatch for a car so big. I never really considered getting one of these, especially after reading that you had to take the intake manifold off to change the spark plugs, and that someone said the manual transmission had “no user servicable parts inside” meaning that you had to get a whole new box if one broke. Don’t know how true that was, and by that point I had already seen enough and didn’t really care.

  • avatar
    Mattsterzz

    Come and check out JDM heaven, New Zealand!
    You still see so many GTO’s on the road.
    Here’s two examples (which are Twin turbo, AWD and Manual) on sale for a reasonable price
    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mitsubishi/gto/auction-598873287.htm
    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mitsubishi/gto/auction-570667204.htm

  • avatar
    bball40dtw

    I always thought the 3000GTs were always red and the Stealths were always green.

    The 90s had some strange and terrible cars. I think, right now, with my own money, I’d rather have any GM from that period, especially supercharged or with the 3800. For $8500 I can buy all the models from the 1997 Buick, Pontiac, or Olds lineup.

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      The only color Stealth I’ve ever seen in person was white… although this may have been the same one over and over as time went on :)

      “For $8500 I can buy all the models from the 1997 Buick, Pontiac, or Olds lineup.”

      LOL.

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    Doug I disagree on this one, its actually the right color and looks clean. Red should be seldom used and not specified on 220hp FWDs faux speedsters, IMO (VR-4 mayyyybe). Should I go pickup a MY97 Riv and paint it fire engine red, after all it was actually faster than this and weighed about the same.

    http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/3786963997.html

  • avatar
    danio3834

    A few years ago a crazy uncle of mine tried to dump his ’94 Steath R/T on me. Not R/T Turbo, but it was a 5 speed. He’s crazy because his ‘other’ car was a Subaru SVX.

    Anyway, he was tring to sell both because he was putting together some cash to buy a Q45. Crazy uncles, I tell ya.

  • avatar
    CoastieLenn

    The SVX was another misunderstood car. Assuming you could keep the transmission from grenading and a good set of wheel bearings in it, they were damn find machines.

  • avatar
    Neb

    When I was a lad, our 286 PC (running PC/GEOS) had the game Test Drive III. The game itself was well made for the era, though the selection of cars was a little eccentric. You could choose from: A Chevy CERV III, A Lamborghini Diablo, a Pininfarina Mythos, an Acura NSX, and a Dodge Stealth R/T 4. This made the Stealth in my young, impressionable mind incredibly awesome. It was *not* my dreamcar, however, as the Acura NSX, even in test drive three, was miles more fun to drive.

  • avatar
    Mr. Edward Mann

    Derek, you’re killing me! I love early 3000GT VR-4’s with 5MT’s! I would practically kill for the silver example you put on display!

    My only problems are:
    -lack of funds
    -importing it across the border to Michigan would be a royal pain in the @$$

  • avatar
    ciscokidinsf

    I confess to being one of those unabashed fanatics of the 3000GT…however, my love was never returned back after years and years.

    After I finished college, I lusted for a VR-4 and fantasized about the Spyder VR-4… I ended up with a gently used 93 3000GT SL in 1996 with all the bells and whistles and 38,000 miles and 5-speed. Yes, the car was very heavy, but ahead of its time gadget-wise. I loved the AC controllers with color screen and the magnetic suspension with two settings. Had the multi-CD and was Ipod ready (AUX input) way back then.

    However, no matter how much you take care of these, they just weren’t made to last. Mine was garaged for most of its life. Serviced at the dealer for its first 4 years. It was stock and bone for all its life with me (15 years) but:

    1) I moved to California, where it failed all 5 Smog checks every 2 years. Despite replacing Cat converters, cleaning engine, doing all the tricks to pass inspection, etc….
    2) AC system kept leaking the old-style freon
    3) It devoured window regulators, and that also made water enter the door sills
    4) It went through 3-4 alternators in 15 years
    5) I replaced the cooling system twice

    Mitsubishi dealers are also dying, so finding OEM parts is hard nowadays.

    As mentioned, the car was a BITCH to work on. No space in that engine, easy stuff to do in any other similar cars was a nightmare in the 3000GT.

    Plus, the interiors of any of these cars disintegrate very, very badly. I remember looking at other 1999’s and seeing the interior was crappier than a 90’s Hyundai. WTF? Mine held together well, but because the garaging and the constant care. Doesn’t matter how old the car is, the interiors just weren’t made to survive over 5 years. Even Galants and Mirages from that era had better interiors after a decade.

    Sold it for $3,800 with 168K miles, after it failed the 5th smog check, some Vietnamese smog check dude charge me ‘$200′ for passing the smog check. Then CL was its final destination.

    I still miss the car, but honestly, unless you find one under a bubble that has been garaged 100% of the time, the cars don’t hold on.

    I even saw a Spyder VR4 that I wanted a couple of years ago, but the rational part of the brain won that battle.

    Also, you CANNOT put any other engine there. If you go to the 3K boards they will first look at you with contempt if you suggest or ask. The V6 had 222HP but could put its torque at a very low range to move the car, most engines don’t do that anymore. So, your options are to add Turbos to the thing, and just blow up the delicate engine. I’ve seen insane 800HP 3000GT’s out there. They predictably last a few months before blowing up.

    I miss the memory of my 3000GT, still the best design Mitsubishi has done ever. But I cannot recommend it to anyone.

  • avatar
    ChiefPontiaxe

    Earlier this week I saw a 3000GT WITH retractable hardtop parked in front of a store off RT 1 in Rehoboth Beach, DE. Red of course. Must have been an enthusiast.
    I remember that when the Stealth first came out in R/T Turbo form, it (Stealth only) was statistically the biggest competitor to the Corvette in terms of eating into Corvette sales.

  • avatar
    Noble713

    I owned a rather clean 1995 3000GT SL auto about 4 years ago. The sexiest POS crapwagon I’ve ever driven. My experience echoes that of other owners: beautiful to look at, a nightmare to maintain, no real performance to speak of. It would make a nice inspiration for a bodykit for a Corvette coachbuilder though….

    What I find really interesting is that I’ve seen more 3000GT’s in Virginia and North Carolina than I have GTO’s here in Okinawa, Japan (3, and one was in a junkyard). Definitely not a popular car….

  • avatar
    danio3834

    I know two Dodge Stealth enthusiasts believe it or not. They’re brothers with nearly identical, you guessed it, red Turbo Stealths. They had some pretty substantial work done to them with bigger turbos and whatnot. They boogied really well, between transmission and engine replacements.

  • avatar
    TonyJZX

    where I am there’s one big problem with the 3000GT – a very well understood car by the name of Skyline R32 GT-R…

    here’s a car that does high 12 sec quarters stock and is easier to work on and is supportable since they made 44,000 of them and has a magnetic road presence… even 25 yrs after the fact, other road users know what it is, what it can do and know they have to yield

    there’s a story about a famous 3000gt owned by the Mitsu national CEO and he gave it back since he hated it and no-one here could support it

    we have a provinciality sorta thing here where there may be two dozen Nissan dealers but only two who can handle the R35 GTR… and its always been this way… same as it ever was with mitsubishi 20 yrs ago

  • avatar
    juicy sushi

    When it comes time to tell the tale of Mitushishi as a failed marque, the 3000GT will have a chapter all by itself, just for comic relief. I can imagine that interviews with team that develop the thing would be just hysterical, or litigious, given Mitsubishi’s track record…

  • avatar
    bumpy ii

    What, no mention of the Stealth being the accidental midwife to the Viper?

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      Do tell.

      • 0 avatar
        bumpy ii

        The Stealth was supposed to be the official pace car for the 1991 Indianapolis 500 (it was their turn, they had a new sports car, etc.). The UAW bitched and moaned about The Great American Race being led by some job-stealing riceburner (this was back when people paid attention to UAW complaints), so Dodge had to cobble up one of the Viper show cars into something that could run at highway speeds for more than 5 minutes at a time.

  • avatar
    Land Ark

    I’ve mentioned this story before but there’s never a better time to tell it again.
    2 years ago I was looking for a beater car with a stick to get used to driving it on a regular basis since I had never actually owned one. So one day just before Christmas 2011 I spotted 2 local eBay auctions of interest. The Ford dealer near me was having a fire sale for all the garbage they couldn’t sell. I ended up bidding on 2 cars. The first was a 1995 Dodge Stealth R/T. It was in pretty good shape from what I could tell. The other was a 1992 3000gt SL in Fiji Blue. That was the one I really wanted, despite being in rougher shape. On Christmas day the auctions were ending and I was still the high bidder for both. I started to worry a bit. Just before the end of the auctions someone outbid me on the Stealth. I won the 3000gt.
    I went to pick it up and it started smoking as soon as they turned it on. I thought it was steam, but I was assured it was just oil burning off from sitting so long. The clearcoat was all but gone, the interior was clean but worn out – along with just about everything else on it.
    I managed to make it home – late one night to avoid traffic – and long story short…er, it was steam. The water pump had blown up at some point which makes perfect sense since the timing belt and water pump interval was 60k miles and the car was at 124k miles. I never wanted anything more than for the dealer to supply the parts and maybe a discount on the repairs but eventually they offered to take it back. I managed to avoid the shadiness they were attempting to foist on me and got my money back.
    So that’s how I came to own a 3000gt for a month and get fairly good at driving a manual transmission around my neighborhood.

  • avatar
    joeveto3

    I wasn’t a fan of these when they were introduced, I thought the styling was weak. But the mid cycle refresh that included the headlamps shown in the picture got me. According to “Diamondstar Motors,” the front fascia was influenced by a legendary sumo wrestler or ancient warrior. Something like that.

    I wanted one bad, but I was a broke college kid.

    My stripper cousin bought one instead. Totally ruined it for me. I never knew any ancient warrior who gave lap dances.

  • avatar

    It’s so strange you say there are no 3S (3000GT/Stealth) enthusiasts, because i’ve personally known a coupe.

    1) Kid i knew in Elementary school wound up being a huge 3S junky. He kept his first (1991 3k VR-4 5-speed) that he rebuilt and was putting 511bhp to all four wheels last I heard, in the high 11’s. He bought, fixed up, drove, and sold (for a profit) something like 11 other VR4/RT-TT’s over a couple years, basically putting himself through state college on the profit.

    2) Guy I know here in NC has had 4-5 VR-4/Stealth RT/TT’s, he knows they’re unreliable shit and hard to find parts for, bitches about them, but he still keeps buying them.

  • avatar
    ShadowCrawler13

    I apologize to the 3000GT/Stealth owners on here who have had bad experiences. That hasn’t been the case at all for me.

    Sure, tons of them have had the crap beaten out of them by idiot kids who treat them like the average POS Civic. When treated correctly, these cars can go well over 200,000 miles.

    I’ve had the chance to drive a VR4, and currently own a ’94 base model (which has ~220hp, not 161. Common misconception.) I bought mine for $4,000, and it’s perfect mechanically. The paint is rough in several places, but that’s because the previous owner could have cared less about the body. :/

    My car is the smoothest car I have ever been in or driven. The weight, though a lot (~3200lbs), smooths out the ride incredibly. At 100mph, you feel as if you might barely be breaking 80. The car is incredibly planted at any speed.

    Sure, they aren’t the best in tight corners. That’s because that’s really not what they’re made for. The GT (Grand touring) in the name says it all. This car is made for highway speeds, and will never be able to stick with Miatas and MR2s in the twisties. We don’t claim it does though.

    Whether or not these reviews are made to portray the writers as complete ignorant assholes, do your research before writing an article about a car. The pathetic ‘facts’ in this article suggest to me a quick swipe of numbers from the first page of Google.

    If you’ve never driven or owned the car, please show a small amount of respect to those who do adore the car (no matter what vehicle it may be).

    And if you’re looking for a community of 3000GT fanboys, try the 45,000+ owners at http://www.3si.org/ or even the people over here at http://www.3sgto.org/ . They all know their stuff, and would be more than glad to help you with research for an article that shows these cars in the proper light.


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