By on May 21, 2012


Rumors of Made-in-China Lincolns have been swirling for a while. The Lincolns never came, but the rumors are back. Carnewschina has picked up rumors in Chinese automotive media that whisper that by 2015, Lincoln cars will be made in China. According to same rumors, the Lincolns will be produced under Ford’s existing joint venture with Chang’an Auto. The joint venture is expanding towards a new plant in the city of Hangzhou, and this is where the Lincoln will be made when the plant opens in 2015. Or so the rumors say.

If facts reported by Chinese media are often rumors, then rumors reported by Chinese media are most likely completely bogus. Ford said recently that “its luxury Lincoln brand will remain on the sidelines for now.” But by 2015 … who knows. In any case, Lincolns have a rich history in China, wrapped into the red Flag.

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17 Comments on “Lincoln Made In China – Again?...”


  • avatar

    The only way this can matter is if Chang’an Auto gets the Panther. Then, aside from offering China something unique in the world of luxury cars, they can ship them back to the states and keep all us Panther nuts and Fleet people happy.

    • 0 avatar
      rpol35

      Sajeev – What do you think will happen with the Panther? Since it has only been out of production (at least N.A. production) since 2010, is there a chance it will surface again elsewhere, like Asia?

    • 0 avatar
      Bimmer

      Sajeev,

      China can’t get Panther’s tooling, as it was destroyed by Ford, when they decommissioned St.Thomas plant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qtv5hXUFzo

      They even have a dedicated Facebook page, about
      St.Thomas Panther plant: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-St-thomas-Assembly-Plant-open-and-producing-Vehicles/125597924161225

      Even Hitler is pissed off about this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDQdyBBGA7A

      • 0 avatar
        Educator(of teachers)Dan

        The tooling should be on display in the Henry Ford Museum. Last BOF, V8, RWD car sold in North America. That is as much a milestone as the other transportation representations they have on display there.

      • 0 avatar

        First video = Tragic. Second = FTW.

      • 0 avatar
        28-cars-later

        Fools.

      • 0 avatar
        ranwhenparked

        Not the end of the world, if the Chinese wanted to build them badly enough, that could all be duplicated. In the early 2000s FAW attempted to build their own duplicates of the Town Car in-house by claiming ownership of the Panther platform’s intellectual property (based on having engineered a simple chassis stretch, which they claimed equaled their own design). Ford stopped that from going forward, but if they had gotten their way, they would have used their blueprints to create their own production line. FAW probably still has all the reverse engineering work for the Panther in their archives somewhere.

        Of course, this all assumes the Chinese are even interested in that at all. It is still a very old platform design, and these days the Chinese are after licensing much more modern Western technologies.

  • avatar
    getacargetacheck

    Lincoln is on its way out. By 2020 it’ll be dead. Even if Ford introduces Lincoln versions of the Escape and Explorer for volume and the new MKZ sells better, it won’t be enough (at the level of investment $$$ Ford has publicly stated) to change perceptions of the brand. China? The letter “L” is particularly difficult to pronounce. China will not form the basis of a Lincoln renaissance.

    • 0 avatar
      Richard Chen

      Perhaps Lincoln will be winnowed down to one or two unique models, but what would be the definitive car or CUV to sell? I vote for something built on the next Mustang platform with the rumored IRS.

    • 0 avatar
      VA Terrapin

      The problem with Lincoln sedans is that they don’t do a good job of relating to Fords, but more upscale. The MKZ and Navigator look too much like badge engineered Fords. While Ford is taking their sedans and small CUV in a more Euro direction with the Focus, Fiesta and upcoming Fusion and Escape, the Lincoln MKS and MKT look more Japanese. The Town Car is too ancient, uncompetitive and better off dead.

      Killing off Lincoln would be stupid. Where are all the Ford customers who become more affluent supposed to go? Cadillac? Lexus? Mercedes Benz? Hyundai?

      As for the belief that Chinese people have difficulties pronouncing the letter “L,” that’s more ridiculous than the belief that Americans can’t pronounce “nuclear.” Do you really think Chinese have problems pronouncing Chinese company names like Wuling, Linglong or Li Ning, Chinese surnames like Lai, Li, Lin or Liu or Chinese place names like Lanzhou? Think before you spout off stupid stereotypes.

      • 0 avatar
        getacargetacheck

        “As for the belief that Chinese people have difficulties pronouncing the letter “L,” that’s more ridiculous than the belief that Americans can’t pronounce “nuclear.” Do you really think Chinese have problems pronouncing Chinese company names like Wuling, Linglong or Li Ning, Chinese surnames like Lai, Li, Lin or Liu or Chinese place names like Lanzhou? Think before you spout off stupid stereotypes.”

        It’s not a stupid stereotype. The correct pronunciation of the letter “L” is difficult (but not impossible!) to learn much less a name like “Lincoln” which also has a silent “C” and a silent “L.” The point is that Ford would be foolish to build a worldwide luxury brand in the world’s largest car market with a name that is difficult to pronounce. The name also, unlike Buick, has almost no recognition or heritage in China. Might as well start anew or develop the Ford name further.

      • 0 avatar
        dtremit

        Japanese also has a single liquid phoneme; hasn’t stopped Toyota from introducing the Lexus brand there. Plenty of brands have local pronunciations that are correct in their respective markets; no one gives it much thought.

      • 0 avatar
        VA Terrapin

        Native Chinese speakers are perfectly capable of pronouncing the letter “L” as I’ve already shown with various Chinese words and surnames.

        Since the second “L” in Lincoln is silent, native English speakers make the first syllable sound like “ling” or “link,” and the second syllable sound like “kin” or “kun.” “Ling kun” is no challenge for native Chinese speakers to pronounce correctly. But like you already said, the real challenge for Ford to sell Lincolns in China (if that’s what Ford really wants to do) is to sell one that “has almost no recognition or heritage.”

  • avatar
    "scarey"

    Give me some beef and brockery and an order of Red Frag Town Car.

  • avatar
    iainthornton

    Lincoln has a silent /c/? How do you pronounce it, ‘Linnun’?

  • avatar
    Bryce

    Lincoln is only an overpriced Ford it has some cachet in the US but elsewhere its just another incompetent poorly made tank


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