By on January 13, 2012

Honda’s decision to redesign the current Civic after barely a year on the market was described to me by one former Honda insider as “the closest they will ever come to admitting to gross incompetence.” Even though the Civic has been panned by most outlets, the staff at About.com called the Civic one of the Best New Cars of 2012.

Aaron Gold, author of the piece, lauded the Civic for being

“… the most comprehensive compact car on the market. You can get a sedan or a coupe; a high-fuel-efficiency version; a high-performance version; a leather-lined version; a hybrid version; even an alternative-fuel version that runs on clean natural gas. And whichever Civic you choose, you’re virtually guaranteed years of trouble-free motoring.”

Gold’s depiction of the Civic brings to mind an automotive buffet. And like most buffet restaurants, the abundance of choice cannot be correlated with the quality of the offerings. Seeking a neutral, third-party perspective, I decided to get the opinion of a car enthusiast with decades of experience driving all kinds of cars on multiple continents – my grandma.

At 78 years old, Yvette Lerner has lived a rich and full life and shows no signs of slowing down. Although she is more interested in bridge, Masterpiece Theater and her adult education classes, Lerner is a car enthusiast, having owned everything from an MG Magnette, a Skoda convertible, a ’65 Mustang with a 289 V8, a Chrysler LeBaron K-Car and a 1993 Escort with a 5-speed manual, that she purchased after she had turned 60. Grandma also owned one of the first 1973 Civics in North America, and now drives a 2000 Honda Civic sedan (with a 4-speed automatic) with 47,845 miles, and had a 2012 Civic LX as a service loaner while her car is in the body shop. She also notes that she “did [her] driving test in England. It’s harder, and I had to do it on a [manual] shift car. And park on a hill.” That’s more than can be said for most drivers today.

“I liked that new Honda!” said Lerner. “It was really peppy, much more than mine is. The windows go down automatically and you sit higher up. The radio was much better too.” When asked if she would trade in her 2000 Civic, considered to be the best generation ever made by enthusiasts, the answer was an emphatic yes, but Lerner noted she’d spend her money on something besides a new car, and her current Civic was in “immaculate condition.” Notably absent were complaints about MacPherson struts, electric power steering systems or the ECO mode, though Lerner did praise the ride quality as being “smoother than my Civic.”

While journalists such as Gold get their Civics dropped off and picked up from their home or workplace with a full tank of gas and insurance provided, Lerner paid for her own fuel, used her own insurance policy and was weighing a possible purchase decision, as a retiree living on a fixed income. Her car enthusiast pedigree is also stronger than that of some of the people you meet on press launches.

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88 Comments on “2012 Honda Civic Wins About.Com “Best New Cars Award”, Praise From Derek’s Grandma...”


  • avatar
    Mark MacInnis

    Is your Grandma single? I’d love to meet her….

    • 0 avatar

      Mark, she is. My grandfather passed away in 1998, but my grandma actually has two boyfriends and a cadre of male admirers. Unfortunately, I don’t think she’s open to the idea of dating a Gentile, although I’m sure she would love to chat on the phone and bake you cookies.

      • 0 avatar
        rodface

        And this, is why I come here.

      • 0 avatar
        gslippy

        DK, this is as good a review as any others which cite 0-60 times and MPG figures.

        Grandma’s pedigree as a car reviewer has been earned the old-fashioned way, and is the style that most consumers employ.

        It’s nice to read a counterpoint to all the 2012 Civic-hating out there. I haven’t even sat in one, so I don’t know. But I’d consider Grandma’s evaluation to be just as legitimate as the “expert”‘s.

      • 0 avatar
        laphoneuser

        “Unfortunately, I don’t think she’s open to the idea of dating a Gentile”

        Thank you for that lol moment.

  • avatar
    jmo

    Have her test drive a Cruze, Focus and Elantra and see what she says. The issues isn’t that the 2012 isn’t better than the 2000 – it’s that the 2012 doesn’t compete well against the current competition.

    • 0 avatar

      She has driven an Elantra. Her verdict was “I liked it but it’s no Honda”.

    • 0 avatar
      wsn

      Cruze/Cobalt/Cavalier and Focus are downright junks compared to Civic at the 12th year mark (she drove a 2000 Civic).

      The newer generation of Cruze/Cobalt/Cavalier and Focus may be better, but there won’t be comparable 12 year track records until 2024. If past hypes were any indication, they won’t. And in year 2024, it will be common knowledge that 2012 Cruze is total junk, but hey the 2024 Chevy C**** will be the new hype that will supposedly beat 2024 Civic.

      • 0 avatar
        jmo

        What does she care about track record – at 78 she’s not buying green bananas.

      • 0 avatar
        wsn

        You certainly don’t want an 80+ year old having to visit the repair shop every 2 months, do you?

      • 0 avatar
        jmo

        You certainly don’t want an 80+ year old having to visit the repair shop every 2 months, do you?

        Sure you do – I know someone (retired) who gets excited by the need for an oil change, as it gives his something to do.

      • 0 avatar
        vettefan427

        I have an 11 year old Cavalier that is still in cherry condition. Much better condition than the Corolla I had before that was 11 years old when I got rid of it. That thing required numerous repairs and when I got rid of it the motor mounts were junk and the car buzzed and rattled like crazy. It would have been a $1000 repair on a car worth~$2000 in mint condition. For comparison I have driven my Cavalier harder and babied it less. The only repair required so far has been to reconnect 2 wires that broke out of a harness that was part of the EVAP system.

      • 0 avatar
        rpn453

        Sure you do – I know someone (retired) who gets excited by the need for an oil change, as it gives his something to do.

        You don’t have to be old for that. There’s a forum full of people who get excited about oil changes!

        http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

        That doesn’t mean they would enjoy unplanned maintenance or repairs though.

    • 0 avatar
      Dan

      Favorable comparison with past products is just fine when your past products weren’t garbage.

      A situation which Chevy, Ford or Hyundai have not yet managed to achieve.

  • avatar
    johnhowington

    in other news, enthusiasts are pissed that there arent other enthusiasts out there that are like minded.

  • avatar
    LeMansteve

    Are we really comparing the new Civic to a 12 year old model? Should we expect anything less than a smoother ride, better radio and peppier drivetrain?

  • avatar
    VanillaDude

    I am happy that the 2012 Honda Civic impresses your grandma. So, if you are an elderly lady, then I suppose this car is for you.

    Thanks About.com for that insightful endorsement.

    Here are some other things elderly ladies endorse.
    1.) Early bird specials at Bob Evans
    2.) Free senior coffee at McDonalds
    3.) Large 52 ounce jars of pickled mushrooms at Sams Club
    4.) Hoverarounds
    5.) Super absorbent Discreet Adult liners
    6.) Handicapped parking spaces wide enough for Camrys
    7.) Perms with blue rinse
    8.) Pleated trousers with white gym shoes is a hot look for senior dudes
    9.) Buying gold coins and burying them in Quaker Oat containers
    10.)Voting for Roosevelt in 2012

    • 0 avatar
      dts187

      Ha! +1

    • 0 avatar
      Zackman

      +1. Ha ha ha!

      Not your funniest work, but in the ballpark, for sure. Too bad your one-member fan club doesn’t think so and just doesn’t get it.

      In the future, add “sweatsuits” to the list. With white tennis shoes.

      • 0 avatar
        VanillaDude

        After I posted it, I started seeing that I was going too fast for conditions. My right front fender started nicking the guard rail and sparks started to appear like fiery orange comets as the metals grated. I tried swearving back, but the curve came at me sharper. I could hear the howls of metal slowing being torn from the front clip, bumper and right fender. It sounded like the whine of a half dozen TTAC whiners.

        It was all so evil.

        Thanks to Derek I didn’t go off the cliff entirely. But I can see few are amused.

        Note to self: drive slower, be more courteous to other drivers. Wave. Wear pants. Fart only when windows are open.

      • 0 avatar
        rpn453

        As usual, I enjoyed it. I didn’t see the original, but I can only assume it was even better.

  • avatar
    HiFlite999

    Congratulations, VD, you’ve managed to compose one of the most disgusting posts to any automotive forum I’ve ever read. I would suppose it originates in some sort of psycological deficit on your part, but a good summary may simply be “evil”. Wishing you ill health, loneliness, and poverty in your own old age – and the opportunity to see others make fun of you for it.

    • 0 avatar
      VanillaDude

      You forgot to yell,
      “You evil kids stay off my lawn!”

      The most disgusting post you ever read?
      Did you finally find your glasses? You been missing a whole lot of my previously posted disgusting postings. Did you catch the one where I compare different brands of laxatives with 2012 GM products?

      And hey – someone had to tell you – pleated pants with white gym shoes went out of style at the end of the Clinton era. And it’s high time you stop wearing Levis with white tennies too. That is so last Century.

      P.S. – FDR is dead.

      • 0 avatar
        HiFlite999

        Remember my wish for you, VD. It will come true. May you be treated exactly as well as you have treated others.

      • 0 avatar
        VanillaDude

        …and your little dog too!

        Your wish for me will come true?
        What kind of wish is that?

        If you are going to do some kind of voodoo curse on me, don’t call it a wish.
        Thanks, now I’m all confused!

        Nah – the worse that could happen is if my family all developed personalities as humorless as yours. And I live to be 100. So I can drive a Civic.

    • 0 avatar
      dejal1

      Don’tcha know? VD is going to stay young forever. Never get old, never get sick, never have to worry about post retirement, never watch a spouse die of alzheimers.

      • 0 avatar
        VanillaDude

        Alzheimers?

        I don’t think Alzheimers disqualifies anyone from buying this Civic. As a matter of fact, it probably would make the car seem like a new one every day!

        What’s happening? Did someone link TTAC with the AARP’s Health Guide To Constipation again? Very funny Bertel!

      • 0 avatar
        HiFlite999

        +1 dejal1. It’s mildly fun I suppose, to watch VD hurl insults, first originally, now at me, in lieu of having anything productive or reasonable to say. The better part is, that as he invests more effort along these lines, he will remember this encounter all the more, in spite of pathetic attempts at looking for loopholes; “As ye sow ..” for the religiously inclined, “karma” for the rest, sooner or later, it will catch up to him, one way or another.

    • 0 avatar
      johnhowington

      go sensationalize 9/11 somewhere else, this article is quit timid. dumbass.

    • 0 avatar
      Pch101

      I’m not exactly a fan of the “dude” and his lengthy rants. (I’ve seen hurricanes that are less longwinded, and that are a lot more funny.) But don’t you think that you may be taking this just a litttttttle bit too seriously?

      In any case, this thread was supposed to be about Yvette Lerner, who is obviously a front-runner for this year’s North American Grandmother of the Year competition. You’re interfering with her spotlight, so move out of the way.

    • 0 avatar
      Brock

      Did I miss something. Was a post endorsing NAMBLA deleted?

    • 0 avatar
      FromaBuick6

      @HiFlite999: Are you for real? If this offends you, go read the comments on Autoblog or Yahoo. You’ll likely come back here in tears.

      VD’s attempt at humor is pretty clumsy, but his comments are pretty tame. Your comments, however, are mean spirited and offensive. I don’t see VD wishing an awful life upon anyone. Nor is anyone else for that matter. Just you.

  • avatar
    aunt_slappy

    Maybe VD (no pun intended) is mad that granny left his inheritance to someone with poor taste in automobiles. Just a guess, probably no more accurate than his list of things old ladies endorse. Something tells me he hasn’t troubled himself to ask any. (Yes I’m old)

  • avatar

    Unlike a certain Lexus exec, I’m truly speechless.

  • avatar

    In much the same way JB loves Porsche and Ford, Aaron’s a Honda guy. Always has been.

    Keep in mind, he tends to review cars though the lens of their intended audience, not as an enthusiast.

  • avatar
    wsn

    If you have frequented this site you would know that VD was only trying to say something witty. And he was most of times. Generally funny and harmless. But some of the witty remarks are more like the new Sonata’s styling. You can’t say it’s bad, but it’s trying too hard.

    • 0 avatar
      HiFlite999

      Is what’s coming back from VD witty, funny, and harmless or even at this point, trying to be so? I’ve certainly had my own attempts at humor go mistakenly awry, to which the general best course is to apologize. He, however, continues to behave in a manner consistent with his first response, demeaning the old, the ill, and the poor. I, for one, count that as bad. Perhaps it’s just fine with TTAC and others, dunno.

    • 0 avatar
      bumpy ii

      ‘nilla does okay so long as the commentary is strictly limited to wistful reminiscing about old cars. When he strays into society and politics, the commentary hurtles directly into Crazy Uncle Facepalm territory, with all the earnestness and virility of a smog-choked ’76 Buick.

  • avatar
    Gary Numan

    I’ve been a reader of this site for some time and there are many wonderful reader comments posted. This time around, I belive “Vanilla Dude” needs to be put on watch and consideration for being blacklisted from TTAC. I’ve never stepped up to take the time to write this type of suggestion before but quite frankly I am not impressed with Vanilla Dude and his responses here are shameful to others using this site.

    • 0 avatar
      johnhowington

      i’m sure your self perceived clout and importance will make all the difference.

      • 0 avatar
        dts187

        Does TTAC have an “On Watch” board similar to Colbert’s “On Notice” board?

        If they don’t maybe they should get one. Hopefully someone who has been a reader of this site for some time can charge forward like the White Knight of the Internet and suggest it. It’d be a perfect place to list unimpressive and shameful commentators.

    • 0 avatar
      HiFlite999

      I don’t know what the answer is to such rudeness, Gary, because I find it hard to understand. How many times have I seen the able-bodied take handicapped spaces, for example? What can possibly be going through their minds? Or the idiots who would double-park next to my parent’s Camry in a wide handicapped space, thus preventing them from being able to get to the doors from my mother’s wheelchair? I suppose it’s all in good fun? Dunno, don’t get it.

      • 0 avatar
        tedward

        Guys…those were funny personal digs from VD up there. Sure it stings a little to be on the receiving end, but rest assured it will be someone else’s turn before long.

        Wishing illness on someone (which sort of happened above) is far more serious than poking a little fun. Besides, Alzheimers and old jokes are only funny because we’ve all lost loved ones to similar causes. It must be laughed at.

  • avatar
    Russycle

    As the former owner of a 1965 Mustang with a 289 V-8 and a ’93 5-speed Escort(and 2 Hondas), I applaud your grandmother’s taste in cars.

  • avatar
    Secret Hi5

    I have my suspicions about Obbop and Vanilla Dude. ;)

  • avatar
    30-mile fetch

    VanillaDude’s comments?

    Eh, ignore ‘em. How much stock do you want to put in the opinions of an anonymous person who spends time writing free unsolicited comedy monologues on the internet? This stuff just isn’t worth getting upset over.

  • avatar
    Pch101

    “It was really peppy…The radio was much better too.”

    High praise, indeed. I’m sure that the vast majority of past Civic buyers would agree, and would happily buy the updated model.

    But it’s that disgruntled minority that is no longer surprised and delighted that is the problem. If they leave Honda for another company, then Honda has both lost a customer and helped a competitor.

    And that’s the reason why they need the early refresh. Detroit spent years taking advantage of their loyalists, and we can see how well that went for them.

  • avatar
    ajla

    So Honda used the A-body Buick Century for inspiration here?

  • avatar
    JCraig

    Not to stray back on topic, but I think there is something to be said for the reasoning behind this award. The current Civic may not be very competitive but Honda should be applauded for offering so many variants of an econo car.

  • avatar
    VanillaDude

    This is a car blog.
    Did you folks know that it isn’t uncommon for auto mechanics – the same people who work on your cars – sometimes curse or use rude language?

    That’s right.
    While your car is in the shop, there could be offensive language spoken around, or even – ‘shock!’ – in your car!

    Have you ever heard the kind of language spoken in a service station? Do you realize that you are refueling your car where attendants and clerks may speak rudely? Please don’t faint, but it. is. true.

    Get a grip people.
    This is a car blog.
    You might read something here that could reflect the car culture of your local auto centers.

  • avatar
    bills79jeep

    Derek, this post is a game changer – for me. I enjoyed it enough to stop just reading the articles and comments on TTAC and finally start commenting. When you write stuff like this, it’s certain you’ll fit right in as a writer to TTAC.

  • avatar
    thornmark

    Grandma has something that most people lack, wisdom. Ford and GM still have lousy reputations and deservedly so.

    Buying Ford and GM over Honda is the supreme triumph of hope over experience. Grandma is smart enough to know that.

  • avatar
    stuntmonkey

    Listening to Gen-Y’s complain about the Civic is like watching them get tattoos… they think that they’ll be young forever. There are reasons why people snicker at the middle aged guy in Camaro and the cougar with the tramp stamp…

  • avatar
    geeber

    Derek Kreindler: Honda’s decision to redesign the current Civic after barely a year on the market was described to me by one former Honda insider as “the closest they will ever come to admitting to gross incompetence.”

    No doubt true, but that is more than most companies do when they release a clunker. At least Honda isn’t dumping 50 percent of production on Avis, Hertz and Alamo, touting the sales figures, and then blasting the critics who notice this for being solely motivated by an “anti-Honda bias.”

  • avatar
    DM7

    I recently bought my first car over the summer, a 2000 Civic hatchback 5 speed from an older couple (50-60) who absolutely loved it. They were originally going to upgrade to a 2012 Civic Si but disliked it because of the overall increase in size and weight, high belt line and large dash. They have also been Honda loyalist since the 70s and tried to get into a Fit Sport but were not happy with bad sales service (this was also post tsunami when Fits were hard to come by).

    In the end they bought a 2012 VW GTI instead because they said it ‘felt’ more like a small car than the 2012 Civic.

    A few months later I met another older couple to buy a front bumper from for my 2000 Civic and to my surprise they felt the same way about the current civics. They used to also have a 2000 Civic hatch but theirs was wrecked in a collision so they replaced it with a 2011 model. They also disliked the new Civic for the same reasons and jokingly proposed a trade.

    The way I see it is the new Civic is a good car, but it’s not the same car previous Civic owners are used to. Small car buyers who want the 90s Civic experience need to get into the Fit.

  • avatar
    NormSV650

    Newsfalsh: Honda is No. 1, passing Toyota, for most recalls in 2011.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/10/airbag-recall-forces-honda-past-toyota-in-total-recalls-for-2012/

    So what is the best “old” car in that segment? Corolla?

  • avatar
    Jeff Waingrow

    Are we certain that VD’s not simply some twelve year old who gets to use the family computer after school while his folks are still at work?

  • avatar
    tedward

    Hey I’ve got an actual car question. Not having driven a new Civic stick I was wondering if Honda is still delaying throttle-off for emissions purposes. It’s my one serious pet peeve with our Fit Sport, and one that many competitor vehicles avoid (at least to some extent). A fine gearbox is all well and good, but it isn’t shown in its best light when paired with late 90′s emission compliance tech (looking at you 9-5).

    I was also wondering if the upcoming switch to DOHC would help them mitigate this. And if anyone knows of an available software fix for the Fit’s throttle control, please post it!

  • avatar
    DC Bruce

    Comments aside, I thought this was a nice post, DK, and your granny is a good counterpoint to the throttle jockeys and wannabe throttle jockeys who usually review cars.

    I hope you get to spend time with her frequently, because she sounds like a lotta fun . . . and a good counterexample to the stereotype invoked rather tastelessly by VD, who probably also thinks it’s a riot to kick three-legged dogs and see if they can manage to stay on their feet.

    • 0 avatar

      She lives less about a mile away and phones frequently, but honestly she’s quite independent and likes to do her own thing – go on vacation alone, play cards, go to the theater and lectures at her synagogue. I like to solicit views from people outside the “car world” in general; my girlfriend, who doesn’t even drive, my Mum who values utility above all else, my friends who really don’t care about cars but still need one. As much as I love geeking out about old obscure iron or discussing the finer points of different engine or gearbox configurations, too much of that stuff leaves you disconnected from the rest of the world, and you end up panning the CR-V as terrible to drive, even though the rear seats that fold down in one touch are a far bigger draw than driving dynamics or soft-touch dash materials.

  • avatar
    mnm4ever

    Well in grandma’s defense, only the 2000 Civic Si was considered so highly by enthusiasts, mostly because we finally got a decent engine in an Si. The other Civics that year were nothing special, the 1992-1995 model was a nicer car, and the 1996+ models was the first generation of de-contented for profit products. IIRC, they were panned quite a bit, like the 2012 model was this year.

    • 0 avatar
      jogrd

      I thought the 1996 was the first of the “Jennifer “ cars which annoyed us former Civic fans so much. I’m definitely thinking that the target customer for Honda is a grandmotherly type. The parking lot at the local senior centre seems to be packed with Fits and Yari that Mom bought after Dad passed on.
      I’ve had a few Civics and think that I’d prefer a 95 or even a 90 Si to a 2000.

      • 0 avatar
        mnm4ever

        Whats a “Jennifer” car?

        I had a 1987 Civic Si, I loved that car too… the 89-91 was even better. Then I got a 93 EX coupe, not quite the Si, but that Si didnt have power windows and I liked the coupe look better. The engine was the same, not sure about the suspension.

        But I did like the previous-gen Civic Si, especially the sedan, I almost bought one. I just saw the new Civic Si sedan a couple days ago, and it looks better than the coupe. Not sure how it drives, but the interior was nicely done, much better than the lower Civics IMO. My wife loved it… and shes picky.

  • avatar
    Zykotec

    Seriously, they owners of the 2012 will infact own a troublefree motor for years, it handles well enough for any of their needs, and the looks are subjective, so I have no problem with anyone calling it the ‘Best new car’. If everyone claims that sales success or looks is the only measure of a cars worthiness, then choose between a F-series or an E-type…

  • avatar
    Zoom

    It’s just Masterpiece now, no Theater. Other than that, game-changing article.

  • avatar
    oleladycarnut

    Hey, no hatin’, VD. I’m a grandma also, and my 2012 Civic Coupe EX beats the pleated pants off of my 84 Civic, my 91 Civic, my 99 Civic and the little fart can 2010 FIT I had. I traded the little POS 2011 MINI Cooper S that had two thermostats replaced by the time she had 8000 miles on the clock and went back into the Honda fold.

    I get an ole lady chuckle every time I read reminisces about the good old days of Honda from young whippersnappers who probably never even had one, let alone have driven the 2012 Civics.

    Time to motor on over to Bob Evans and stop for the senior coffee at Mickey Ds on the way. VD, let’s meet up there and talk about fashion shall we? Better yet, I’d love to meet Derek’s granny there!

    • 0 avatar
      tedward

      Your right about the comparison to old civics being bunk, very similar to comparing a modern 3series to the E30. The new cars have no similarity in class or capabilities to their older predecessors. The problem Honda really has here is that the regular Civic isn’t any better than the last one, and frankly is upstaged by competitor offerings. No outright screw ups there, just a lack of success. Were they really screwed the pooch is the Si model. That one went from sublime machine to mildly interesting device, and someone should be fired for that decision.

      But trading a 2011 Cooper S for a mild Civic…that hurts.

      • 0 avatar
        oleladycarnut

        It hurts just a little. I broke my wrist badly (age creeping in?) and I just couldn’t handle the stick. There will be many MINIs out there, and I really think I’d only own one for a fun car on the side. It’s no fun worrying about whether the damn thing will start or throw a check engine light.

        Getting back in the Civic felt like coming home. “It’s a Honda.” I don’t think I’ll ever get over that.
        I did check out the competition (Focus, Fiesta, Elantra) and I guess the familiarity of the Honda won me out. I don’t understand the hatin’ on the 2012. I really think the newer funkier designs won’t wear well. But, after spending years in West Berlin and going over to the East and shaking my head over the Trabants, I am grateful we have CHOICE.

      • 0 avatar
        mnm4ever

        I would much rather buy a brand new E30 over a new 3-series! :)

      • 0 avatar
        tedward

        oleladycarnut: I completely agree with that. Preference should be the deciding factor after all. I also agree that the overwrought dashboards and scalloped panels proliferating in the class are going to look CHEAP in just a few short years. Sorry about the wrist, maybe check out the dual clutch gearboxes when the Civic gets tired. Unfortunately it sounds like Honda will be going the CVT route in the future, and I highly doubt that you will be able to keep that love affair going. It sounds like you appreciate the finer things.

        mnm4ever: Yeah me too, thats why I just did. Huge win, just took it out in its first (likely ever) snow storm. So much easier to control than a fwd esp equipped modern car, even on crappy mismatched all seasons. I’m more convinced than ever that my no heavy fwd cars rule is the way to go.

      • 0 avatar
        oleladycarnut

        tedward: I rue the day when Honda moves to CVT. I’m planning on holding on to the 12 Coupe for a long time, because to me it has all of the good qualities of the old Hondas, plus the safety/technology upgrades that matter.

  • avatar
    MrWhopee

    Wow. Civic used to be a “young man’s car”, people who then put ricer exhaust, underbody neons, big rear wings, etc. to their car. Now they appeal to former Buick customers. How things change in a decade or so. Strangely, Buick is now trying to appeal to younger customers, with turbo engines, manual transmissions… what a weird world we live in.

    • 0 avatar
      Lokki

      Yeah… throw in the luxury brands Hyundai and Volksvagen

    • 0 avatar
      WriterParty.com

      You should come to the South. I live in South GA and young men here drive a VERY disproportionate number of “old man sedans”. Panthers, Caprices, Impalas, Buicks, all rule the day. Granted, the hi-riser crowd loves to lift them and put giant rims on them, but even outside of that there’s a ton of ‘em. One of my 18 year old coworkers (military) just bought a 2009 Impala.

  • avatar
    WriterParty.com

    @DK you seem to have a talent for inciting absolute insanity in the Best and Brightest. Not only are your articles entertaining but the comments that followed both this and the Ford Fusion post are the gift that keeps on giving! keep it up bro, you’re a game changer!!

  • avatar
    AaronGold

    Actually, Derek, Honda doesn’t deliver to me. I did attend the press launch, but for my week long drive, from which I decided to put the Civic on the list, I went to get it – and I did pay for all my own fuel. Quick tip: It’s always a good idea to fact-check your stories. My email address is on my site.

    Sorry, but I refuse to go along with the popular opinion that Civic sux because Honda didn’t change it enough. It’s still a great choice for consumers. As are the other cars on the list.

    Besides, Honda says I’m only two awards away from a free silver tea set. So don’t rock the boat, okay?

    Aaron

  • avatar
    silverkris

    How coincidental. My wife had a 2000 Civic EX with 107K miles on it and for several months wrestled with whether we should trade it in or not – as the dealers were offering extra money for trade-ins and good pricing on the 2012 models.

    Well, a couple of weeks ago, we finally pulled the trigger and traded in the 2000 EX for the current model.

    Compared with the old model, yes, instrument panel looks a bit busy and the plastics are harder and not as nice. But the car is quieter, has a bit more zip (1.8L vs. 1.6L in the 2000 model), and gets better fuel economy at the same time. Not to mention updated safety features like curtain airbags and the like.

    My wife is happy with the car, and for her, the new model works well.

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    CRConrad

    “And like most buffet restaurants, the abundance of choice cannot be correlated with the quality of the offerings.”

    What, you never heard of negative correlation? :-)


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