Piston Slap: How Do I Warranty Thee? Let Me Count the Ways...

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Steven writes:

Hello Sajeev, I have a question along the lines of the Piston Slap article “ Save Me From My X5.” I have a 2007 four door GTI with DSG that I purchased new on October 12, 2006. The car has just about 35,000 miles and the factory warranty is expiring October 12, 2010. I really like the car and would be happy to keep it for a few more years. I’m dreaming of no car payments.

My GTI is basically reliable. I’ve been left on the side of the road twice from faulty ignition coils, but those are about to be replaced via a recall. The only other issue I have is that it uses a quart of oil every 1,200 miles. The car is completely stock. My worries about keeping the car out of warranty would be the oil usage and the complex DSG transmission. Yes, VW is providing extending the warranty on certain DSG models to 10/100,000 but (from what I can tell) it does not apply to 2006 and early 2007 builds.

Here’s my question to you: Should I buy the Volkswagen “RealDriver” extended warranty provided by Fidelity Warranty Services? The options for the plan are set up a la carte style, you can choose level of coverage, deductible, total miles, and total time. But, it is set up so that there’s not much of a price difference between the most basic and most comprehensive levels. So, if I got it I would go all they way, getting “platinum” coverage with an extra 75,000 miles and five years above the factory warranty. I was quoted a price of $3,300 for this coverage (from the dealer where I bought the car). The salesperson was clear that there is room for negotiation on this price. Thanks for your assistance!

Sajeev answers:

If you aren’t a wrench-turning forum junky, an extended warranty on any European car is a good idea. Judging by VW’s website I’d recommend the middle or top option, simply for the expensive electrical components it covers. If the difference is less than $500, I’d jump for the top spot.

Regarding pricing: forget about negotiation, you better comparison shop! Getting the best deal isn’t your problem, because manufacturer-branded extended warranties have a retail and dealer price, just like the cars on the lot. So you email all the VW dealerships’ Internet Sales Managers in a 200-ish mile (or more) radius of your home and see which person shows you the most love.

At the risk of VW bashing, I’m going there: oil consumption and ignition coil problems make your car far less reliable than others in that price range. While Steven Lang likes GTI’s overall, he mentions the problems of owning a not-brand-new Vee Dub in a recent Hammer Time (LINK: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/hammer-time-avantis-inferno/) article. So don’t be too surprised if the warranty company already “gamed” the system to exclude a common fail point, and that you’ll always spend a large chunk of money on normal maintenance. Keep up with the servicing and find an independent VW garage (with references) so you can enjoy the GTI for a long time with minimal cash outlay every month.

Bonus! A Piston Slap Nugget of Wisdom:

Selling a car in the retail market with the balance of a warranty inspires customer confidence and ensures a higher asking price. But if you trade-in your car before that extended warranty runs out, return/pro-rate the coverage to recover some of your cash. Read the fine print, it’s there. Always read the fine print!

(Send your queries to mehta@ttac.com)

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  • MarcKyle64 MarcKyle64 on Mar 18, 2010

    I had a 2000 Toyota Celica that used a quart of oil every 600-800 miles depending on if it was city or highway. Toyota 'rebuilt' the motor after both an extended oil consumption test AND accusations from the dealer that I was draining oil out of the car. The reason I put quotations on rebuilt is because the car still used oil at a rate of 800-1000 miles again depending on usage. I complained again and was told that it was now within Toyota's consumption specs of 750 miles per quart. I ditched the car and have never considered buying a Toyota again. I think Toyota's current troubles are Karma in action.

  • Chaparral Chaparral on Mar 18, 2010

    If you burn a quart of oil every 1000 miles, and you get around 30 MPG, you are burning one quart of gasoline for about every thirty gallons. That's around 125:1 which wouldn't be too far out of line for a modern oil injected two-stroke - and that has a Total Loss oil system with big fat ports right in the cylinder walls!

  • Kjhkjlhkjhkljh kljhjkhjklhkjh A prelude is a bad idea. There is already Acura with all the weird sport trims. This will not make back it's R&D money.
  • Analoggrotto I don't see a red car here, how blazing stupid are you people?
  • Redapple2 Love the wheels
  • Redapple2 Good luck to them. They used to make great cars. 510. 240Z, Sentra SE-R. Maxima. Frontier.
  • Joe65688619 Under Ghosn they went through the same short-term bottom-line thinking that GM did in the 80s/90s, and they have not recovered say, to their heyday in the 50s and 60s in terms of market share and innovation. Poor design decisions (a CVT in their front-wheel drive "4-Door Sports Car", model overlap in a poorly performing segment (they never needed the Altima AND the Maxima...what they needed was one vehicle with different drivetrain, including hybrid, to compete with the Accord/Camry, and decontenting their vehicles: My 2012 QX56 (I know, not a Nissan, but the same holds for the Armada) had power rear windows in the cargo area that could vent, a glass hatch on the back door that could be opened separate from the whole liftgate (in such a tall vehicle, kinda essential if you have it in a garage and want to load the trunk without having to open the garage door to make room for the lift gate), a nice driver's side folding armrest, and a few other quality-of-life details absent from my 2018 QX80. In a competitive market this attention to detai is can be the differentiator that sell cars. Now they are caught in the middle of the market, competing more with Hyundai and Kia and selling discounted vehicles near the same price points, but losing money on them. They invested also invested a lot in niche platforms. The Leaf was one of the first full EVs, but never really evolved. They misjudged the market - luxury EVs are selling, small budget models not so much. Variable compression engines offering little in terms of real-world power or tech, let a lot of complexity that is leading to higher failure rates. Aside from the Z and GT-R (low volume models), not much forced induction (whether your a fan or not, look at what Honda did with the CR-V and Acura RDX - same chassis, slap a turbo on it, make it nicer inside, and now you can sell it as a semi-premium brand with higher markup). That said, I do believe they retain the technical and engineering capability to do far better. About time management realized they need to make smarter investments and understand their markets better.
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